Talk:Flamm

Same character as Charlieton?

It seems like Flamm might be intended to be an equivalent to Charlieton from Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, judging by their somewhat similar appearances (both having pink toned skin, black oval-shaped eyes, and wild brown facial hair) and the same Japanese name. While they’re most likely not literally the same character, it seems like they’re likely a similar case to Merlon and the other Shaman characters, who appear with different appearances and roles across the first three Paper Mario games. Merlumina is a character part of the "Merlon family" whom the wiki now considers to be the same character as Madam Merlar, owing to having somewhat similar appearances and roles and the same Japanese name.

The best argument I can see against merging is the presence of Flimm, whose role in the game is actually more similar to Charlieton’s than Flamm’s, despite having a distinct appearance and Japanese name, but who is also a direct counterpart to Flamm. This is a big problem, to be fair, though it’s not completely unlike the Merlon family members changing roles between games, so a merge might still be worth consideration? Per Doc von Schmeltwick in the proposal that led to Madam Merlar being merged with Merlumina, if NoA had localized Flamm’s name as Charlieton, would we consider them to be different? Pseudo (talk) (contributions) 11:59, May 24, 2024 (EDT)

If we have to merge Flamm to Charlieton based solely on their Japanese name, that means we have to treat Flimm the same way... and he shares his Japanese name with Rowf/Doogan. Yeah, there's no way I'd support that. rend (talk) (edits) 12:29, May 24, 2024 (EDT)

I do take your point, though I’d argue that they have more in common than their Japanese names, such as similar appearances and somewhat similar roles as independent merchants. Pseudo (talk) (contributions) 12:33, May 24, 2024 (EDT)

Flimm also shares his name with another series of street merchants that look very different from him, so I'm inclined to believe this one actually is different. EDIT: Oh, Arend already mentioned that, lol Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:38, May 24, 2024 (EDT)

Fair enough. I suppose that both Flimm and Flamm may be best seen as referencing the previous games' street merchants as a whole, rather than being direct counterparts to them. I’ll consider this matter closed and remove {{talk}}. Pseudo (talk) (contributions) 12:49, May 24, 2024 (EDT)