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== Green Boo == | == Green Boo == | ||
[[Talk: | [[Talk:Green Boo#Comments|You never answered my question]]. If your entire problem with the Green Boo merge is inconsistency with Black Boo, then why aren't you supporting the [[Talk:Black Boo#Merge?|Black Boo merge proposal]] instead of opposing the Green Boo merge? For the record, the Green Boo proposal is currently 12-1 in favor of merging and only 2 days away from its deadline, so it's very unlikely it's going to fail at this point. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 19:25, July 30, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:I think that overall, both staying split is better for consistency with how we do things across the wiki than both being merged is ([[Raving Piranha Plant]] is its own page despite having less differences from Piranha Plants than the Boos have from each other, and there's [[Talk:Hyrule Circuit#Create pages for the Zelda elements, take II|this proposal]]), and it would leave [[Red Boo]] still split. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 05:28, July 31, 2021 (EDT) | :I think that overall, both staying split is better for consistency with how we do things across the wiki than both being merged is ([[Raving Piranha Plant]] is its own page despite having less differences from Piranha Plants than the Boos have from each other, and there's [[Talk:Hyrule Circuit#Create pages for the Zelda elements, take II|this proposal]]), and it would leave [[Red Boo]] still split. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 05:28, July 31, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::Except it's ''not'' consistent with how we normally do things on the wiki since we usually don't split color variants unless they're an RPG enemy with unique stats such as [[White Clubba]]. That proposal about those ''Zelda'' enemies in Hyrule Circuit is a bad comparison since those are entirely different creatures, not color variants, and I honestly don't think Raving Piranha Plant should have been split in the first place. Red Boo is in a gray area due its role in the ''Mario Party'' series as a supporting character/species in games where the vanilla white Boo is playable, so the case for merging it isn't as strong as the green or black ones. And again, both staying split is not happening with the way the Green Boo proposal is panning out, so given the circumstances, merging Black Boo is the most consistent option available. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:21, July 31, 2021 (EDT) | ::Except it's ''not'' consistent with how we normally do things on the wiki since we usually don't split color variants unless they're an RPG enemy with unique stats such as [[White Clubba]]. That proposal about those ''Zelda'' enemies in Hyrule Circuit is a bad comparison since those are entirely different creatures, not color variants, and I honestly don't think Raving Piranha Plant should have been split in the first place. Red Boo is in a gray area due its role in the ''Mario Party'' series as a supporting character/species in games where the vanilla white Boo is playable, so the case for merging it isn't as strong as the green or black ones. And again, both staying split is not happening with the way the Green Boo proposal is panning out, so given the circumstances, merging Black Boo is the most consistent option available. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:21, July 31, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:::I understand that Red Boo's Mario Party information is going to stay split, I just don't think it's very consistent for us to also leave the Super Mario Bros. Deluxe information on that article when all the other coloured Boos have it merged. I don't see why the Zelda creatures being more complex reskins makes them irrelevant to colour variations when at the end of the day they're both just reskins but some have their designs changed more than others. I'd also argue that these Boos are colour variants of an enemy with unique stats, they just happen to not be in an RPG, which I don't completely see the relevance of. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 05:39, August 1, 2021 (EDT) | :::I understand that Red Boo's Mario Party information is going to stay split, I just don't think it's very consistent for us to also leave the Super Mario Bros. Deluxe information on that article when all the other coloured Boos have it merged. I don't see why the Zelda creatures being more complex reskins makes them irrelevant to colour variations when at the end of the day they're both just reskins but some have their designs changed more than others. I'd also argue that these Boos are colour variants of an enemy with unique stats, they just happen to not be in an RPG, which I don't completely see the relevance of. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 05:39, August 1, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::::The Boos in ''SMBDX'' are more comparable to differently-colored [[Koopa Troopa]]s in ''Super Mario World'' (their behavior and speed differs depending on shell color) than they are to stronger versions of enemies in RPGs. Those ''Zelda'' enemies are not comparable to color variants; they're ''entirely different creatures'' (also see [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 55#Merge Game Boy Donkey Kong enemy variations / Split Wario World enemy variations|this proposal]] about in ''[[Wario World]]'' enemies). You can't use that ''Zelda'' enemies proposal as a justification for splitting differently-colored Troopas or [[Snifit]]s. They're not the same thing, and that's just not how the wiki works. As for Red Boo, there's actually [[Talk:Red Boo#Regarding this, the other colors, and the standard Boo page|a discussion topic]] about merging the article entirely, ''Mario Party'' info included. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 18:25, August 1, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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"Weird Space"
The "weird space" was intentional. Before the "weird space" there is a hidden table for the 2nd week spotlights that will be revealed later tonight, and if the table were to be revealed without the weird space after then it wouldnt really look neat. Evil elmo 16:47, February 16, 2021 (PST)
- Oh, sorry, I assumed it was just a mistake. Hewer (talk|contributions) 04:02, February 17, 2021 (EST)
Green Boo
You never answered my question. If your entire problem with the Green Boo merge is inconsistency with Black Boo, then why aren't you supporting the Black Boo merge proposal instead of opposing the Green Boo merge? For the record, the Green Boo proposal is currently 12-1 in favor of merging and only 2 days away from its deadline, so it's very unlikely it's going to fail at this point. 
19:25, July 30, 2021 (EDT)
- I think that overall, both staying split is better for consistency with how we do things across the wiki than both being merged is (Raving Piranha Plant is its own page despite having less differences from Piranha Plants than the Boos have from each other, and there's this proposal), and it would leave Red Boo still split. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 05:28, July 31, 2021 (EDT)
- Except it's not consistent with how we normally do things on the wiki since we usually don't split color variants unless they're an RPG enemy with unique stats such as White Clubba. That proposal about those Zelda enemies in Hyrule Circuit is a bad comparison since those are entirely different creatures, not color variants, and I honestly don't think Raving Piranha Plant should have been split in the first place. Red Boo is in a gray area due its role in the Mario Party series as a supporting character/species in games where the vanilla white Boo is playable, so the case for merging it isn't as strong as the green or black ones. And again, both staying split is not happening with the way the Green Boo proposal is panning out, so given the circumstances, merging Black Boo is the most consistent option available. 21:21, July 31, 2021 (EDT)
- I understand that Red Boo's Mario Party information is going to stay split, I just don't think it's very consistent for us to also leave the Super Mario Bros. Deluxe information on that article when all the other coloured Boos have it merged. I don't see why the Zelda creatures being more complex reskins makes them irrelevant to colour variations when at the end of the day they're both just reskins but some have their designs changed more than others. I'd also argue that these Boos are colour variants of an enemy with unique stats, they just happen to not be in an RPG, which I don't completely see the relevance of. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 05:39, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
- The Boos in SMBDX are more comparable to differently-colored Koopa Troopas in Super Mario World (their behavior and speed differs depending on shell color) than they are to stronger versions of enemies in RPGs. Those Zelda enemies are not comparable to color variants; they're entirely different creatures (also see this proposal about in Wario World enemies). You can't use that Zelda enemies proposal as a justification for splitting differently-colored Troopas or Snifits. They're not the same thing, and that's just not how the wiki works. As for Red Boo, there's actually a discussion topic about merging the article entirely, Mario Party info included. 18:25, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
- The Boos in SMBDX are more comparable to differently-colored Koopa Troopas in Super Mario World (their behavior and speed differs depending on shell color) than they are to stronger versions of enemies in RPGs. Those Zelda enemies are not comparable to color variants; they're entirely different creatures (also see this proposal about in Wario World enemies). You can't use that Zelda enemies proposal as a justification for splitting differently-colored Troopas or Snifits. They're not the same thing, and that's just not how the wiki works. As for Red Boo, there's actually a discussion topic about merging the article entirely, Mario Party info included.
- I understand that Red Boo's Mario Party information is going to stay split, I just don't think it's very consistent for us to also leave the Super Mario Bros. Deluxe information on that article when all the other coloured Boos have it merged. I don't see why the Zelda creatures being more complex reskins makes them irrelevant to colour variations when at the end of the day they're both just reskins but some have their designs changed more than others. I'd also argue that these Boos are colour variants of an enemy with unique stats, they just happen to not be in an RPG, which I don't completely see the relevance of. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 05:39, August 1, 2021 (EDT)
- Except it's not consistent with how we normally do things on the wiki since we usually don't split color variants unless they're an RPG enemy with unique stats such as White Clubba. That proposal about those Zelda enemies in Hyrule Circuit is a bad comparison since those are entirely different creatures, not color variants, and I honestly don't think Raving Piranha Plant should have been split in the first place. Red Boo is in a gray area due its role in the Mario Party series as a supporting character/species in games where the vanilla white Boo is playable, so the case for merging it isn't as strong as the green or black ones. And again, both staying split is not happening with the way the Green Boo proposal is panning out, so given the circumstances, merging Black Boo is the most consistent option available.
