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::I beg to differ. It also clearly states several times that the name "Nintendo 3DS" is a temporary name that is only being used during development. And you obviously won't be able to play 3D games on the old 2D consoles. Besides, it's the only lead we have on the console, why should we assume there is a mistake in it? Uniju :D 18:30, 29 March 2010 (EDT) | ::I beg to differ. It also clearly states several times that the name "Nintendo 3DS" is a temporary name that is only being used during development. And you obviously won't be able to play 3D games on the old 2D consoles. Besides, it's the only lead we have on the console, why should we assume there is a mistake in it? Uniju :D 18:30, 29 March 2010 (EDT) | ||
:::I also forgot about all the [[Game Boy]] consoles. All right, I'll remove the tag, but you might want another oppinion before we do anything definite. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | :::I also forgot about all the [[Game Boy]] consoles. All right, I'll remove the tag, but you might want another oppinion before we do anything definite. {{User:Reversinator/sig}} | ||
::::Nintendo made an official announcement, so I think its okay to remove the tag. Even if its not a "successor" it shouldn't be deleted. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[ | ::::Nintendo made an official announcement, so I think its okay to remove the tag. Even if its not a "successor" it shouldn't be deleted. <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User talk:Yoshario|Y]]'''oshario'''</font></span>[[File:Yoshi Mario Hat SM64DS.png|30px]] | ||
==Merge into Nintendo DS== | ==Merge into Nintendo DS== | ||
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====Support==== | ====Support==== | ||
#{{User|WiiURob}} Per proposal | #{{User|WiiURob}} Per proposal | ||
#{{User| | #{{User|The Super Mario Super User}} Per WiiURob, I also think the New 3DS should get it's own article | ||
#{{User|LudwigVon}} Per WiiURob | #{{User|LudwigVon}} Per WiiURob | ||
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per WiiURob's comment below. | #{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per WiiURob's comment below. | ||
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I'm sort of neutral on this, so I'm not going to vote. However, I must mention that if this proposal passes, we will also have to create a separate article for the Wii Shop Channel, due to constancy. [[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 18:05, 12 February 2015 (EST) | I'm sort of neutral on this, so I'm not going to vote. However, I must mention that if this proposal passes, we will also have to create a separate article for the Wii Shop Channel, due to constancy. [[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 18:05, 12 February 2015 (EST) | ||
@ | @The Super Mario Super User: We should probably wait for a New 3DS article until it actually gets some exclusive Mario games. --{{User:SuperYoshiBros/sig}} 13:55, 15 February 2015 (EST) | ||
==New 3DS separate article== | ==New 3DS separate article== | ||
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I know I'm very late, but I just saw this proposal. I don't get how it failed. The DSi is split from the DS. Seems like the same principle to me. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} | I know I'm very late, but I just saw this proposal. I don't get how it failed. The DSi is split from the DS. Seems like the same principle to me. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}} | ||
:Section needs expanded, but there are DSi enhanced ''Mario'' | :Section needs expanded, but there are DSi enhanced ''Mario'' games. And because of the exclusive internet that the regular and Lite DS's don't have, there are ''Mario'' exclusive DSiWare games as well. The New Nintendo 3DS does enhance some games, but there isn't anything exclusive that is a ''Mario'' game. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:23, 13 January 2018 (EST) | ||
== New pages == | |||
Should we make more pages on the rest of the 3DS family like how you made the [[Nintendo DSi|Nintendo DSi]] it's own page. {{User|YoshiFan08}} 06:14, June 15, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Emulator Screenshots == | |||
So is it ok to use emulators (such as Citra) to take screenshots of 3ds games? I was wondering if making screenshots 10x native is ok or not since the models and stuff are still official, they are just upscaled? Another thing, is there a way to make sprites (such as the hud for most games) to not look blurry when using 10x native? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 18:32, November 30, 2021 (EST) | |||
:The original resolution is still preferred since these emulator gadgets are not official and counts as fan-edits. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 18:35, November 30, 2021 (EST) | |||
::@Swallow, well several Wii and Gamecube games use emulators to get higher quality screenshots. I do not see why we can’t use 10x native screenshots for 3DS games, while most other consoles such as Gamecube and Wii can do it just fine. Mind explaining why those are ok but not higher resolution 3DS screenshots (I also think this applies for the original DS as well)? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 00:15, December 2, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::I wouldn't mind if someone else explains this more clearly since I'm not an expert on the situation, but I imagine those are still faithful to the original quality compared to the 3D Land images you took. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:37, December 2, 2021 (EST) | |||
::::It's not forbidden to upscale the resolution of screenshots, especially in lower res GameCube and N64 games to show-off the detail of the images better but original resolution is still preferred. In addition, there is no way to make HUD not look blurry when upscaling them, since they are a set size (in something like Super Mario 64, they're likely 32 or 64 in a dimension max); this is equivalent of taking an image and upscaling its size. Only way to make HUD not look blurry is to redraw them, something Super Mario 64 in the 3D All Stars collection does or HD hud packs done by fans, something which is not allowed on the wiki. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 16:05, December 4, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::::@Ray Trace, so is it ok to use 10x native 3ds screenshots then? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 17:42, December 4, 2021 (EST) | |||
::::::Upload screenshots at their native resolution. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 20:24, December 4, 2021 (EST) | |||
:::::::Ok, the ones I did take are higher resolution so sorry about that. Should we make a proposal about if it is ok to upload 3ds screenshots above their native resolution? [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 21:16, December 4, 2021 (EST) | |||
::::::::Proposal is not needed, it's generally encouraged to take 3ds screenshots in native resolution and that's what you should do. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 21:55, December 4, 2021 (EST) | |||
== How To Rip 3DS Models? == | |||
How do you rip models from 3DS games? I use Citra for emulation and I would like to rip model from 3D Land and the 3DS remakes of Yoshi’s Woolly World and Mario & Luigi Bowser’s Inside Story primarily so it would be nice if I could get help on that. Also I am trying to get models not on The Models Resource if that is cool. Any model software is fine (but I kinda use Blender) so just tell me the easiest way to rip models from these 3DS games (as well as there textures). [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 02:24, December 5, 2021 (EST) | |||
:If anyone is willing to help me with model uploading or uploading them for me that would be nice (I mainly want the Mole models from Super Mario 3D Land and the 3ds remakes of Bowser’s Inside Story and Yoshi’s Woolly World). [[User:MontyMoleLoreMaster|MontyMoleLoreMaster]] ([[User talk:MontyMoleLoreMaster|talk]]) 14:11, December 5, 2021 (EST) | |||
::Ripping models from these games requires knowledge of what format they are in, as different games use different model formats and may have different methods on how to get them working. Citra can dump the game's content by right clicking on the title and clicking on dump content, but you may not be done there because as I said, it depends on the game. Something like ''Yoshi's New Island'' have models compressed into .bch.z format, which requires ntcompress.exe to decompress models into uncompressed bch (and using ntcompress.exe requires basic knowledge on how to operate command prompt as well as configuring your PC's registry to open command prompt via shift + right click on Windows Explorer in a desired directory), which Ohana 3DS can read (and possibly have textures inside model files), plus can additionally export as 3D models if you really want to use Blender. Having Blender read textures requires that you know how to import textures into Blender. | |||
::Before you ask, I will not further assist in step-by-step acquiring models. I am telling you right now the exact steps you need to know in the simplest manner. {{User:Ray Trace/sig}} 02:37, December 7, 2021 (EST) | |||