Talk:Chargin' Chuck: Difference between revisions

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:::::::::::I don't believe the analogy to [[Koopa Striker]] is a strong enough analogy. Chargin' Chucks have much more differences to Boom Boom and whatnot. It's the same issue I have with the attempt to move Big Boo (Dark Moon) to Boolossus in perceived similarities while significant differences are not considered. With an overall lack of evidence and the similarities just not being quite enough (body proportions, eye design, shell design, movement, hairstyle etc are different) I'd rather just treat the two as separate species and just have people come to their own conclusions. Overall, the evidence isn't strong and I don't think it's anywhere near sufficient to the point we have to state this in the article. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:04, January 16, 2024 (EST)
:::::::::::I don't believe the analogy to [[Koopa Striker]] is a strong enough analogy. Chargin' Chucks have much more differences to Boom Boom and whatnot. It's the same issue I have with the attempt to move Big Boo (Dark Moon) to Boolossus in perceived similarities while significant differences are not considered. With an overall lack of evidence and the similarities just not being quite enough (body proportions, eye design, shell design, movement, hairstyle etc are different) I'd rather just treat the two as separate species and just have people come to their own conclusions. Overall, the evidence isn't strong and I don't think it's anywhere near sufficient to the point we have to state this in the article. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:04, January 16, 2024 (EST)
::::::::::::I understand that, but SMW was when they really wanted to differentiate designs - compare Dry Bones between SMB3 and SMW, they could be seen as different enemies. If it weren't for the localized name for the next example, these'd have about as much as common with each other as the Hammer Bro and AFH Bro (basically named "Hurray!" in Japanese). I'll probably end up making a proposal to settle this at some point (and throw in a part for Sumo Bro being derivative of Sledge Bro) as I'm getting opposition on the page itself here but a lot of support in DMs elsewhere. In the meantime, I'll probably look for more direct evidence. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:21, January 16, 2024 (EST)
::::::::::::I understand that, but SMW was when they really wanted to differentiate designs - compare Dry Bones between SMB3 and SMW, they could be seen as different enemies. If it weren't for the localized name for the next example, these'd have about as much as common with each other as the Hammer Bro and AFH Bro (basically named "Hurray!" in Japanese). I'll probably end up making a proposal to settle this at some point (and throw in a part for Sumo Bro being derivative of Sledge Bro) as I'm getting opposition on the page itself here but a lot of support in DMs elsewhere. In the meantime, I'll probably look for more direct evidence. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:21, January 16, 2024 (EST)
:::::::::::::Perhaps but I don't see how design decisions affecting two sets of Dry Bones should be applied between Chargin' Chuck and Boom Boom. We need more evidence, and I wouldn't be comfortable putting that in the article as if we've arrived at that conclusion. Stating some design similarities is probably okay but I would personally stop short at stating any link between the two. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:24, January 16, 2024 (EST)