Editing Talk:Blooper

==Bloober?==
I've heard this alternate name before, but where did it originate? [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 11:38, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
:Where did you hear it? [[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup> 11:40, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
::If you can find a source, you can add a sentence in the article. Otherwise, leave "Bloober" out. <span style="font-family:Kunstler Script; color:#006633;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Wayoshi|W]]'''ayoshi</font></span><small> ( [[User talk:Wayoshi|T]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Contributions/Wayoshi|C]]<tt>&middot;</tt>[[Special:Emailuser/Wayoshi|@]] )</small> 11:44, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>Retrived from Wikipedia* Bloober- The name of a Blooper in SMB. It can only be killed by fireballs when it is underwater, but above water it can be stepped on easily. [[User:Parayoshi|<span style="color: green">Para Yoshi</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Parayoshi|<tt>Wahoo!</tt>]]</sup> 11:51, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
::::I see. I've never gotten that far in SMB, so I guess I can't say much. I knew Bloober existed somewhere, though. [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 11:53, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
:::::When Paper Mario was made, the name was changed to Blooper. All previous instances refered to this species as Bloober. -- [[User: Son of Suns|Son of Suns]]
Conformed, It was first refered to as Blooper in Papaer Mario and has kept the name since, Bloober was mainly used in Super Mario Brothers Deluxe.
:::::"Bloober" was how it appeared in the instruction manual to SMB and, IIRC, certain other sources (perhaps including games). "Blooper" predates Paper Mario by a number of years -- it's attested as far back as a 1989 Diamond Sticker Activity Album. It also appeared with a bit more official cachet in the 1993 SMAS Player's Guide, and probably many other sources I do not have. --[[User:Toadstool Forever|Toadstool Forever]] 01:01, 23 March 2007 (EDT)
::::::It was still called Bloober in SMB3's instruction manual.  The official strategy guide which came out the same year (1990) called them Bloopers.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] 22:29, 21 September 2011 (EDT)

==Correction==
The article said that Blooper was the first mandatory boss in Paper Mario 2.  Actually, Lord Crump served that role.  Just wanted to say that I corrected that.
[[User:Waluigi Freak 99|Waluigi Freak 99]] 20:30, 10 September 2006 (EDT)

== My Mistake ==

Can you Please Fix Blooper And The image?I was Just trying to do something [[User:Fg|Fg]]

:I fixed it. --[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:Egg.PNG|20px]] 18:28, 27 December 2006 (EST)

::Use the [[MarioWiki:Sandbox]] please! <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>

I Would Not DO This Again And Thanks For fixing It. [[User:Fg|Fg]]

:You're welcome. --[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:Egg.PNG|20px]] 18:48, 27 December 2006 (EST)

==Yoshi's Island==
In Yoshis Island there are an octopus soecies, that looks similar to Bloopers. Are they Bloopers, or a new enemy? - [[User: Ultimatetoad]]
:According to the [[Island Museum]], they are. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 15:16, 22 January 2007 (EST)

Thanks. - [[User: Ultimatetoad]]

== Expand ==

I think this article needs major expansion since its first appearance on super mario bros.{{User:Fg/sig}}
==WRONG NAME?==
aren't the "land bloopers" from SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE called Goopers? [[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]] 18:43, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

No, they are still called Bloopers. Unless you meant the boss [[Gooper Blooper]]. {{User:Knife/sig}} 19:01, 27 October 2008 (EDT)

== Bloober/Blooper ==
I know that thoses ennemies were called Bloobers and that they are now called Bloopers. But in the "Super Mario Bros." section (and also in others sections) we call them Bloopers while they were currently know as Bloobers. And if you tell me that because the current name is Blooper we must call them Bloopers, why in the "The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!" section (and also in others sections) we call them Bloobers ?. We should either call them Blooper everywhere, or call them by the name they were know as by the time. (I don't know if you understood me) {{User:Banon/sig}}

:I think that it should first acknowledge the early name in the ''Super Mario Bros.'' section and the next few sections where they are known as Bloobers, and then call them Bloopers thereafter. As an example, Princess Peach was given the early name "Princess Toadstool" in the original ''Super Mario Bros.'', and [[Princess Peach#Super Mario Bros.|the section]] informs the reader of this. It then calls her "Toadstool" in the rest of the section, and the next few sections until ''Super Mario 64'', where she is known as "Peach". I think the Blooper article can take a similar approach.

:{{User:YoshiKong/sig}} 02:58, 14 December 2012 (EST)

::Yes, that would be consistent. {{User:Banon/sig}} 17:37, 14 December 2012 (EST)

==Surfing Blooper==
{{TPP}}
In ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' in Ricco Harbor to appear [http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xLOQOIkbj1M/0.jpg three colored Bloopers] who Mario can ride for ottenure two [[Shine Sprites]].  Since they are the important character I would say to create a page dedicated to them. 
P.S. These Bloopers not have an official name so I think if you decide to create the page should add the [[Template:Conjecture]].

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Sonic98}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' February 25, 2013, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|Sonic98}} Per proposal.
#[[User:BowserJunior|BowserJunior]] [[User talk:BowserJunior|(<small>Talk</small>)]] Per my comments below.
#{{User|NSY}} Per proposer
#{{User|ThePremiumYoshi}} - Per all.
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per proposal. They are different from normal Bloopers, so they deserve their own article. A note to the opposers: saying that they don't have a name is not a valid stance in my opinion. A notable subject with no official name deserves an article as much as an officially-name one does. See [[MarioWiki:Conjecture|the policy]].

====Oppose====
#{{User|King Pikante}} I think that it's crazy to have an article about two different colored Bloopers. Why? We don't even know their names and even though they maybe are important to get a Shine Sprite, there are also some other things that are important to get a star and they don't have an article. We just don't have enough info to make an article about them. If it would be created, there would be no real purpose for the article. If the same Bloopers maybe appeared in another game or stage, I would support this proposal, but they don't, so it is useless.
#{{User|Mariotime11}} Agree with King Pikante. There should be just one article about Bloopers in general. Also, there isn't much to write about the different colors.

====Comments====
[[User:King Pikante]] Thinking like you did by following this logic the page [[Bowser's Claw]] would be useless so if that page there I think it could be even a page on colored Bloopers of Super Mario Sunshine. --[[User:Sonic98|Sonic98]] ([[User talk:Sonic98|talk]]) 12:37, 12 February 2013 (EST)

Yes, Sonic98, but Bowser's claw is a separate object that has a name. The colored Bloopers are the exact same species as Bloopers AND they don't have a name. Bowser's Claw deserves it's own article because it is totally different than any other things in the mario series, while the colored bloopers are probably normal Bloopers with goop on them. Plus, Bowser's claw has a name.--[[User:King Pikante|King Pikante]] ([[User talk:King Pikante|talk]]) 16:35, 12 February 2013 (EST)

In fact they are real characters, you want a link to a video here you see these Bloopers so maybe you know what I mean?.--[[User:Sonic98|Sonic98]] ([[User talk:Sonic98|talk]]) 12:25, 13 February 2013 (EST)

Do they talk? Are they a different species? Do they have a name? Answer me that, and if all three questions have the answer yes, then I will support. They are not characters because they don't talk and don't have a name. --[[User:King Pikante|King Pikante]] ([[User talk:King Pikante|talk]]) 13:15, 13 February 2013 (EST)

:King Pikante, Bowser's Claw is unnamed.  These Bloopers act very differently from the other bloopers in the game and are needed to get three shines, so I'm supporting this.  Also, if we have pages for [[Fluzzard Gliding]] and [[Bubble Blowing]], we should have one for blooper surfing as well.--[[User:BowserJunior|BowserJunior]] [[User talk:BowserJunior|(<small>Talk</small>)]] 18:09, 13 February 2013 (EST)

::Guys, ''he is not'' going to create a page for each color, just one [[Surfing Blooper]] page.--[[User:BowserJunior|BowserJunior]] [[User talk:BowserJunior|(<small>Talk</small>)]] 00:33, 14 February 2013 (EST)

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 ==Bloober?==
 I've heard this alternate name before, but where did it originate? [[User: Monty Mole|<font color="#C0D9D9"><i>Monty Mole]]</i></font> 11:38, 3 September 2006 (EDT)
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 Can you Please Fix Blooper And The image?I was Just trying to do something [[User:Fg|Fg]]
-:I fixed it. --[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:MKDD Yoshi Egg.png|20px]] 18:28, 27 December 2006 (EST)
+:I fixed it. --[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:Egg.PNG|20px]] 18:28, 27 December 2006 (EST)
 ::Use the [[MarioWiki:Sandbox]] please! <span style="font-family:verdana; color:#red;"><font size="5">'''[[User:Paper Jorge|P]]'''[[User talk:Paper Jorge|aper]] '''[[User:Paper Jorge/sig|Jorge]]'''</font></span>
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 I Would Not DO This Again And Thanks For fixing It. [[User:Fg|Fg]]
-:You're welcome. --[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:MKDD Yoshi Egg.png|20px]] 18:48, 27 December 2006 (EST)
+:You're welcome. --[[User:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:green">Yoshi</span></b>]][[User talk:Yoshi626|<b><span style="color:black">626</span></b>]][[Image:Egg.PNG|20px]] 18:48, 27 December 2006 (EST)
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-{{Proposal outcome|green|split 9-3}}
 In ''[[Super Mario Sunshine]]'' in Ricco Harbor to appear [http://i.ytimg.com/vi/xLOQOIkbj1M/0.jpg three colored Bloopers] who Mario can ride for ottenure two [[Shine Sprites]].  Since they are the important character I would say to create a page dedicated to them.
 P.S. These Bloopers not have an official name so I think if you decide to create the page should add the [[Template:Conjecture]].
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 #{{User|ThePremiumYoshi}} - Per all.
 #{{User|YoshiKong}} Per proposal. They are different from normal Bloopers, so they deserve their own article. A note to the opposers: saying that they don't have a name is not a valid stance in my opinion. A notable subject with no official name deserves an article as much as an officially-name one does. See [[MarioWiki:Conjecture|the policy]].
-#{{User|Blue CosmicToad}} Per BowserJunior's comments.
-#{{User|Aokage}} Per YoshiKong.
-#{{User|Mariotime11}} Per YoshiKong.
-#{{User|KoopaGuy}} per Yoshi Kong.
 ====Oppose====
 #{{User|King Pikante}} I think that it's crazy to have an article about two different colored Bloopers. Why? We don't even know their names and even though they maybe are important to get a Shine Sprite, there are also some other things that are important to get a star and they don't have an article. We just don't have enough info to make an article about them. If it would be created, there would be no real purpose for the article. If the same Bloopers maybe appeared in another game or stage, I would support this proposal, but they don't, so it is useless.
-#{{User|MortonBoo99}} Per King Pikante and my comment.  I mean after all, they're Bloopers.  They don't have different names.
+#{{User|Mariotime11}} Agree with King Pikante. There should be just one article about Bloopers in general. Also, there isn't much to write about the different colors.
-#{{User|YoshiFan1200}} Per King Pikante.
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 ::Guys, ''he is not'' going to create a page for each color, just one [[Surfing Blooper]] page.--[[User:BowserJunior|BowserJunior]] [[User talk:BowserJunior|(<small>Talk</small>)]] 00:33, 14 February 2013 (EST)
-These Bloopers are important because, like BowserJunior said, they are NEEDED for three shines in the game. My only concern is that there might not not be enough to write about the Bloopers, and then the article might be a stub. --[[User:Mariotime11|Mariotime11]] ([[User talk:Mariotime11|talk]]) 10:12, 16 February 2013 (EST)
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-:Articles are not stubs if there isn't a lot of information on the subject, only if they can be expanded. And of course, official names are '''not''' points for article qualification.--{{User|BowserJunior}}
-:From what I've heard from this proposal, these Bloopers play a minor role in the game.  Even though other characters in other games play minor roles, these Bloopers play such a small role, I don't think they should have even 1 seperate article on the Surfing Bloopers.  [[User:MortonBoo99]]
-Not trying to sound mean or anything, but the Bloopers in Sunshine may play a small role, but it is a very important one. THEY HELP MARIO GET THREE SHINE SPRITES, so if it wasn't for them, you would be three Shines short of completing the game. [[User:Mariotime11|Mariotime11]] [[User talk:Mariotime11|(<small>Talk</small>)]] 13:39, 21 February 2013 (EST)
-==Name change?==
-Anybody know why the name was changed from Bloober to Blooper? I think that should be in the article if it's known.--[[Special:Contributions/130.215.248.164|130.215.248.164]] 23:38, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
-== Umm, Is there a problem? ==
-Well, on this page there is a mention of [[Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels|Super Mario Bros. 2]], but  all other mentions of that game mention it as '''Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels.''' Is it okay if I change it? [[User:Weegee lolz|Weegee lolz]] ([[User talk:Weegee lolz|talk]]) 08:20, 7 February 2015 (EST)
-:Yes. --{{User:SuperYoshiBros/sig}} 10:59, 7 February 2015 (EST)
-==Splatoon Cameo?==
-Should we add the cameo appearance in Splatoon to the list of appearances?  [[User:DelfinoPlaza2|DelfinoPlaza2]] ([[User talk:DelfinoPlaza2|talk]]) 14:36, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
-:[[Blooper#Cameos and other appearances|Yes]], this section is there for that. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 14:42, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
-==Flying Blooper with Brown Block/Goomba Palette from ''The Lost Levels''==
-....now has a unique name. {{file link|ESMB page 27.png|Take a look-see}}. What shall we do? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:22, 6 February 2018 (EST)
-:Well...I'd say split, but the "flying out of water" function was adopted by normal bloopers in almost every game after TLL, and it's considered the same sprite in-game, so I'd say keep them merged. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 12:23, December 26, 2021 (EST)
-:: Plus, there's the fact that the Super Mario Bros. Portal calls it "Sky Blooper" as in completely separate from regular Blooper, but again, almost every game has the flying out of water function so, nnnngh... [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 12:49, September 26, 2022 (EDT)
-:::I'd say same logic as ''[[Cheep Cheep#Names in other languages|Tobipuku]]'' and ''Super Mario Bros. 3'''s Bloopy Nanny subtypes. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:32, September 26, 2022 (EDT)
-::::Portal doesn't acknowledge ''any'' SMS non-lava Cheep variance, though... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:42, September 26, 2022 (EDT)
-:::::I mean the one from ''New Super Mario Bros.'' that seems to be a one-time name for leaping Cheep Cheep, not to be confused with [[Cheep Cheep#Internal names|''Tabe''puku]] that's otherwise treated as a color variant. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 14:52, September 26, 2022 (EDT)
-== separate sky blooper from normal blooper ==
-First, the sky bloopers have a pink color, they are differentiated from the normal bloopers by being formally recognized as the variant that flies
-Furthermore, the fact that the bloopers fly has only been a video game resource since or else we could also say that the color splash cheep cheep or the cheep cheep and urchin from paper jam can also fly.
-In fact we have only seen floating non-flying bloopers, again this could again be a video game resource but this is more credible due to the current presentations of the bloopers[[User:Sorbetti|Sorbetti]] ([[User talk:Sorbetti|talk]])