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::My reference for the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' internal names comes from [http://neomariogalaxy.bplaced.net/?page=objectdb here] - though note that the object database is incomplete and seems to be only about halfway done (for example, it doesn't list most of the ''Super Mario Sunshine'' / ''Donkey Kong Jungle Beat'' leftovers or the [[Electric Pressure]], which was apparently found in <tt>Partition 0/ObjectData/ElectricPressure.arc</tt>). It looks like the vast majority of returning elements retain their internal names; however, [https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Galaxy#Jungle_Beat_Leftovers TCRF] also states that some (not all) of the ''Jungle Beat'' models in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' were changed from the original game, which they take as an indication that the developers may have had plans for their inclusion like the swinging "Creeper" flowers, so renaming would appear to happen in applicable cases. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:01, 22 September 2017 (EDT) | ::My reference for the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' internal names comes from [http://neomariogalaxy.bplaced.net/?page=objectdb here] - though note that the object database is incomplete and seems to be only about halfway done (for example, it doesn't list most of the ''Super Mario Sunshine'' / ''Donkey Kong Jungle Beat'' leftovers or the [[Electric Pressure]], which was apparently found in <tt>Partition 0/ObjectData/ElectricPressure.arc</tt>). It looks like the vast majority of returning elements retain their internal names; however, [https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Galaxy#Jungle_Beat_Leftovers TCRF] also states that some (not all) of the ''Jungle Beat'' models in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' were changed from the original game, which they take as an indication that the developers may have had plans for their inclusion like the swinging "Creeper" flowers, so renaming would appear to happen in applicable cases. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 00:01, 22 September 2017 (EDT) | ||
Sorry for coming up late, but we do have news: the ''Super Mario Pia'', an official 30th anniversary memorial book, clearly list Swoops and the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' games' bats as separate enemies, even listing ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' as the only games where the latter appeared in the ''Super Mario'' series. But there's more to it: both the ''[[Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.]]'' and the ''Super Mario Pia'' | Sorry for coming up late, but we do have news: the ''Super Mario Pia'', an official 30th anniversary memorial book, clearly list Swoops and the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' games' bats as separate enemies, even listing ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'' as the only games where the latter appeared in the ''Super Mario'' series. But there's more to it: both the ''[[Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.]]'' and the ''Super Mario Pia'' consisstently refer to these enemies as 「バットン」, which is actually the name of enemies previously appeared in ''[[Super Mario RPG]]'', [[Enigma]]s. The ''Super Mario Pia'' even notes how these 「バットン」 indeed have a pig nose, just like the ''Super Mario RPG'' enemies: | ||
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「バットン<br/> | 「バットン<br/> |