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== Going to be gone for a week ==
== Going to be gone for a week ==
June 3-11, on vacation. Not sure when I'll have internet access.
June 3-11, on vacation. Not sure when I'll have internet access.
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::::The rationale still holds for, say RPG games. I don't think it makes sense to assume that everything that drains your HP is automatically poison. Also, I'm mighty tired myself, so Imma crash into my bed now. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 01:30, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
::::The rationale still holds for, say RPG games. I don't think it makes sense to assume that everything that drains your HP is automatically poison. Also, I'm mighty tired myself, so Imma crash into my bed now. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 01:30, 14 August 2017 (EDT)


== Shroobified‎ ==
== Shroobified ==


Still, it may be best to find a video or another source that mentions it, at the very least so that we can confirm the spelling. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:58, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
Still, it may be best to find a video or another source that mentions it, at the very least so that we can confirm the spelling. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:58, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
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== Super Mario series ==
== Super Mario series ==


Thanks for the note, I can see you also wish to have that messy [[Super Mario (series)]] page improved for the best. However, my edits were not only to remove the images I considered useless, but I also did some minor grammar changes on the headers. Therefore, I was forced to perform a counter revert for technical purposes. Going back to this case about images, we don't really need to have a cluster of the multiple designs the enemies have had throughout the series, it makes the wikitable look more clunky than it already is (for a whole section I consider unnecessary), one image is just enough because the outdated alternate appearances are irrelevant at this point, after all, we should stick to the most recent design the subject used since their most recent Super Mario series' appearance (if an artwork if available, of course), this will entice new readers that the series keeps changing. Ironically, that's the same reason why Daisy keeps using her old Super Mario Land artwork there. You are getting too much specific about this anyway, why you did that treatment to certain enemies but not for others? the Goomba, for instance, looks very different in [[:File:Goomba SM64.png|Super Mario 64]] than its modern appearance since [[:File:Goomba NSMB.PNG|New Super Mario Bros.]]. You are also leaving out main characters like Mario, you didn't pick [[:File:Mario SMB.png|images]] [[:File:320174-mario7.jpg|for]] [[:File:Mariopaintart1.PNG|his]] [[:File:Mario Leaning Artwork - Super Mario 64.png|older]] [[:File:SMS-Mario FLUDD Pose.png|appearances]] to create a similar collage. See? it cannot be a more useless addition. You are also contradicting yourself, you told me the Dry Bones images from Super Mario Galaxy 2 had a dismal quality and put back its Mario Party: Star Rush art, yet you ignored the fact the Chain Chomp was in a similar case using some rather bad arts from Mario Party-e and New Super Mario Bros. 2 as opposed to its better [[:File:ChainChompMP8.png|art from Mario Party 8]]. Speaking of that, this is where we have another issue: the game selection for arts is just poor. Why did the Koopa Paratroopa have its art from Super Mario RPG? Why were the Shy Guy and the aforementioned Chain Chomp and Dry Bones using their arts from Mario Party? Even worse is that there are images that don't even reflect an alternate appearance, like how the Hammer Bro. has two images whom it looks exactly the same in both. I did not realized the Blue and Yellow Toads were merged into a single row, and that shouldn't be the case, they should be splitted again, but whatever. The reason I left the Sentry Beam and the Octoomba alone was because there are other related enemies having multiple rows, with the better example being the Cheep Cheep's subspecies; each member of the "Octo Army" should have their own row in my opinion.
Thanks for the note, I can see you also wish to have that messy [[Super Mario (series)]] page improved for the best. However, my edits were not only to remove the images I considered useless, but I also did some minor grammar changes on the headers. Therefore, I was forced to perform a counter revert for technical purposes. Going back to this case about images, we don't really need to have a cluster of the multiple designs the enemies have had throughout the series, it makes the wikitable look more clunky than it already is (for a whole section I consider unnecessary), one image is just enough because the outdated alternate appearances are irrelevant at this point, after all, we should stick to the most recent design the subject used since their most recent Super Mario series' appearance (if an artwork if available, of course), this will entice new readers that the series keeps changing. Ironically, that's the same reason why Daisy keeps using her old Super Mario Land artwork there. You are getting too much specific about this anyway, why you did that treatment to certain enemies but not for others? the Goomba, for instance, looks very different in [[:File:Goomba SM64.png|Super Mario 64]] than its modern appearance since [[:File:NSMBDS Goomba Artwork.png|New Super Mario Bros.]]. You are also leaving out main characters like Mario, you didn't pick [[:File:Mario SMB.png|images]] [[:File:SMBLL Mario Pointing Artwork.jpg|for]] [[:File:Mariopaintart1.PNG|his]] [[:File:Mario Leaning Artwork - Super Mario 64.png|older]] [[:File:SMS-Mario FLUDD Pose.png|appearances]] to create a similar collage. See? it cannot be a more useless addition. You are also contradicting yourself, you told me the Dry Bones images from Super Mario Galaxy 2 had a dismal quality and put back its Mario Party: Star Rush art, yet you ignored the fact the Chain Chomp was in a similar case using some rather bad arts from Mario Party-e and New Super Mario Bros. 2 as opposed to its better [[:File:ChainChompMP8.png|art from Mario Party 8]]. Speaking of that, this is where we have another issue: the game selection for arts is just poor. Why did the Koopa Paratroopa have its art from Super Mario RPG? Why were the Shy Guy and the aforementioned Chain Chomp and Dry Bones using their arts from Mario Party? Even worse is that there are images that don't even reflect an alternate appearance, like how the Hammer Bro. has two images whom it looks exactly the same in both. I did not realized the Blue and Yellow Toads were merged into a single row, and that shouldn't be the case, they should be splitted again, but whatever. The reason I left the Sentry Beam and the Octoomba alone was because there are other related enemies having multiple rows, with the better example being the Cheep Cheep's subspecies; each member of the "Octo Army" should have their own row in my opinion.


'''--<big>[[User:Byllant|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Bold;color:#B40404">'''BYLLANT'''</span>]] [[File:Ak-Un.png|30px|link=User talk:Byllant]]</big> 23:31, 13 September 2017 (EDT)'''
'''--<big>[[User:Byllant|<span style="font-family:Copperplate Bold;color:#B40404">'''BYLLANT'''</span>]] [[File:Ak-Un.png|30px|link=User talk:Byllant]]</big> 23:31, 13 September 2017 (EDT)'''
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== Infobox ==
== Infobox ==


{{tem|character-infobox}} doesn't support variables other than the ones listed on the template page (mainspace templates are not allowed on userpages anyway); you'd have to code the infobox from scratch. You can, however, copy the code from the template page and paste it on your userpage (check my [[User:Mario jc/sandbox|sandbox]] for an example), then change the attributes around from there. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:27, 23 September 2017 (EDT)
{{tem|character infobox}} doesn't support variables other than the ones listed on the template page (mainspace templates are not allowed on userpages anyway); you'd have to code the infobox from scratch. You can, however, copy the code from the template page and paste it on your userpage (check my [[User:Mario jc/sandbox|sandbox]] for an example), then change the attributes around from there. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:27, 23 September 2017 (EDT)


== Hint ==
== Hint ==
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{{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:13, 22 November 2017 (EST)
{{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:13, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:...but still again, '''''it is not clear whether Grubba is a Spike or merely designed in inspiration of a Spike'''''. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:40, 22 November 2017 (EST)
::And how can you be sure of that? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 21:45, 22 November 2017 (EST)
:::That's just a repeated argument. As I have said countless times before, we can't say for sure whether Grubba is a Spike or not because:
:::*He's blue in color, and though he may look more like a [[Stone Spike]] than any other type of Spike, Stone Spikes didn't even appear until ''[[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]]''.
:::*Although you conceive it to be so, his Japanese name (''Gansu'') has no indication whatsoever of him being a Spike. You '''''CANNOT''''' combine ''Gabon'' with ''Gansu'' to make it look like ''Gabonsu'', as that is just speculative.
:::*His shell becomes spiny when he turns into his Macho form, a behavior not even remotely seen in Spikes, not even minus the Macho Grubba form.
:::*Lastly, he more closely resembles a Clubba than a true Spike, as evident by his lip color and English name. Perhaps he should be grouped there instead? {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:03, 22 November 2017 (EST)
::::At this point I feel it's better if we bring up the matter with someone else. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 22:53, 22 November 2017 (EST)
== RE:Kuromame ==
It's nothing important; I just mentioned the name of it, which may end up now being out of date should the page move. If you want to watch it, my video is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-vyAsTmBjY here], specifically around the 8:30 mark. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:35, 26 November 2017 (EST)
== RE:Fire Flower M&L ==
Whatever; it's still an attack, though! {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 03:20, 30 November 2017 (EST)
== Terms ==
There's a difference between a verbal tic and a term directly targeted at someone's (perceived) status. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 23:00, 1 December 2017 (EST)
== Red Block ==
Hey, I noticed you created a page for the [[Red Block]]. But, just in case you didn't know, there was already a page called [[Red Switch Block]] which I think is describing the same thing. I think you could've moved Red Switch Block to Red Block. Unless of course you were about to do that, then nevermind. {{User:LuigiMaster123/sig}} 01:07, 6 December 2017 (EST)
:Didn't know about that. This is why we keep templates filled out. Which is why I'm filling out the NSMB Template as I speak. Also, the ! Block page didn't seem to link to anything of the sort, so... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:09, 6 December 2017 (EST)
== Attack of the Grammar Police ==
Uh, hey buddy, did you forget your grammar for a second there? "He refuses he refuses" is repetitive, as Alex95 told you, but I don't need to repeat that. I'm just making sure you're doing okay there. I know grammar isn't that important, but it still matters a ton on the wiki, as we all want our articles to be written as concise, clean, and conventionally correct as possible. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 21:19, 8 December 2017 (EST)
:I misinterpreted what happened, I thought he ''added'' a "He refuses." Just a short lapse in perception, that's all. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:56, 8 December 2017 (EST)
== Re:"some 24" ==
I was going to say that it's really hard to be certain about the plays' dates, but then I stumbled onto a source that [https://archive.org/stream/williamshakespea017475mbp#page/n309/mode/2up outlines dates for each of them], and sure enough, it lists that 24 plays were written by 1601. My main issue is still that providing a definitive answer is {{wp|Romeo and Juliet#Date and text|near impossible}}, but I could definitely update that point. I'm still preoccupied with school stuff (that's why I wasn't around for a week), but it's trailing off now. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 22:32, 15 December 2017 (EST)
== RE:Snow Guy ==
Don't worry, I'll get to reuploding the other image eventually. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:01, 17 December 2017 (EST)
== File:MK64 Mario w Koopa Shell.png ==
The leftover white pixels around it (which are easily visible on a black background, if you put it on {{tem|delete}} for example) show that it was JPG originally before transparency was applied. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 20:59, 20 December 2017 (EST)
== Re:Sprites ==
I'm so sorry. I was never really good at editing images and ripping sprites, and, obviously, these struggles unfortunately continue with me. I'll keep your correction in mind for the future. Thanks! {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
== Hey ==
Hey do you mind helping me with ripping some sprites for ''DK: King of Swing''? If you can, I'll show you the link with sprites I need downloaded.
{{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
:You don't actually have to download them, just copypaste the sheet into an empty Microsoft Paint document, or if you have a program that allows transparency, into that. If there's no sheet, not sure how well I can do. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 15:13, 22 December 2017 (EST)
::http://www.mariouniverse.com/images/sprites/gba/dks/items.png|Here is the sheet. I was just hoping to somehow rip the bananas, medals, crystals, barrels, crates tires, bombs, rocks, and pegs. It's fine if you can't, I'll hopefully be able to figure it out myself or find someone else to. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
:::I probably can at some point, but the link you posted doesn't work so I'll post [http://www.mariouniverse.com/sprites/gba/dks this link] so I can get back there. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:24, 22 December 2017 (EST)
::::Ok, thank you. Obviously all we need is just one sprite of each item, so just try to rip like the "still" ones (i.e. the center coins and such). {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
:::::If I can, I may try animating them, though I'm limited with the amount of speeds I can have them move.... [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:28, 22 December 2017 (EST)
::::::Don't animate them because I'm looking to make an items section on the DK: King of Swing page. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
== No Quorum Proposal ==
Wait, why all of a sudden did you end your proposal? The deadline for it was two weeks away. You had a lot of time to gather votes on it and get a result, you know. {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 16:11, 22 December 2017 (EST)
:Read the comments section, it's more complexicated than I thought. I'll open a new one once we reach some sort of coherent conclusion. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:12, 22 December 2017 (EST)
To answer the question in your summary, you include the date the proposal ended in the archive. I also forgot to tell you to add the cancel date to the proposal itself, so I added that. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 16:16, 22 December 2017 (EST)
:Thanks ^-^ [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:18, 22 December 2017 (EST)
== New Super Mario Bros Co-op debacle ==
How does it imply there's co-op? We're just stating basic facts and not implying anything else, and plus, he IS the number two character of the series (although I consider him number one alongside Mario, but that doesn't matter). {{User:Lcrossmk8/sig}} 18:31, 22 December 2017 (EST)
:You outright stated he's a "sidekick," which would imply he's little more than an assistant within the game, which he most certainly isn't. Also, given that who is the protagonist is an either-or scenario in that game, there really is no deuteragonist that time around. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 18:33, 22 December 2017 (EST)
== Re:Needlenose ==
Unlike ''[[:File:Advance 3 Shogakukan P16.png|Super Mario Advance 3]]'' and ''[https://imgur.com/a/wKLKQ Yoshi's Island DS]'', Needlenose isn't directly referred to by name in the ''Yoshi's New Island'' book's enemy list. The white upside-down Pokey isn't mentioned, Ukiki is vaguely said to be able to perform a variety of actions, and Heading Pokey isn't specific. The closest is a generic reference in the second sentence of Blow Hard's description:
こちらにカーソルを<span class="explain" title="あ">合</span>わせてから、<span class="explain" title="ばくだん">爆弾</span>を<span class="explain" title="と">飛</span>ばしてくる。
(''"It places a cursor over to you, and blows a bomb."'')
However, Needlenose is actually mentioned elsewhere in the guide. As an example, [[Slime Drop Drama|World 3-4]] ends with a boss battle against Kamek with a Needlenose-spewing Egg-Plant on each side of the screen. As stated in the first sentence of the first caption for this boss battle on page 133:
タマゴは、<span class="explain" title="りょう">両</span>
<span class="explain" title="がわ">側</span>にあるサンボ
を<span class="explain" title="た">食</span>べて<span class="explain" title="ほきゅう">補給</span>。
(''For eggs, the Pokeys on both sides can be eaten to replenish them.'')
So yes, it's still Pokey, but it appears they were demoted from the enemy list like Baron von Zeppelin. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:22, 23 December 2017 (EST)
== Re: Poltergeist ==
It's specifically for the chair objects. Killer Piano and Killer Book have their own entries in the enemies section. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:41, 23 December 2017 (EST)
:Killer Book contains a picture of the toothed enemy and the speeding bookcase book, and describes two different types of it. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 07:48, 24 December 2017 (EST)
== Heroes ==
Using "heroes" is perfectly acceptable when referring to the good guys. It's better than using "you" and is one of the alternatives to using "player" or the character names. "Villains" is also acceptable when referring to the bad guys. PS: May want to archive soon, as your talk page is getting rather long and laggy on my end. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 12:17, 26 December 2017 (EST)
== Hatopop 2 ==
If you keep complaining about a public discussion that received the input of several users, including admins, then I'm going to give you another warning. Don't bring it up without relevancy. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:39, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:My ''entire'' point there was "rules can be disregarded with admin decision", and that he had mentioned importance, while the situation with that wasn't particularly important either, but the rules (at the time) were disregarded via off-site admin decision nonetheless. So I don't think that 'importance" is much of a factor. I'm not trying to bring up drama regarding it, just trying to find a comparable situation. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:42, 27 December 2017 (EST)
::Stop saying they were disregarded. It was a discussion. From multiple users. Who came to a consensus. That is not disregarding them. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:44, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::I'm talking about the naming hierarchy rules at the time, as "Guide name" is higher than "file name." It was discussed and decided to disregard that for that situation, akin to [[Klamber]] and [[Scorchit]]. The reason I don't like how it was handled was that it wasn't done on the talk page, instead being done on a server I didn't know existed on a bandwidth-munching social media site. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:47, 27 December 2017 (EST)
::::The server's public, run by admins, and is frequented by numerous frequent editors. Discussions happen off-site all of the time, whether on the forums, the IRC chat, or yes, the Discord. If you don't like it, that's not the fault of everyone else. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:50, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::::Can we not get a Skype? It's preferable as it's easier on bandwidth. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 19:54, 27 December 2017 (EST)
::::::I'm decently certain that the forum uses less bandwidth than Skype. Is that a big concern for you? {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:58, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::::::Fairly big concern, I am unable to have unlimited bandwidth when I am at home, as we can only get satellite-based internet here, and since we lack a personal satellite or giant tower or whatever, we can't get unlimited with it. Cable isn't an option, as the amount of yard that would need to be dug up to lay them would be too much time, effort, and money. Our yard was used as a cow pasture by the previous owners, that's the kind of size I'm talking about. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:02, 27 December 2017 (EST)
:::::::P.S. On this internet, I had to download ''Super Mario Odyssey'' in order to play it, and it was predicting up to ''54 hours'', and that's after the 2+ hours it took to get above ''0%''. I ended up just having it stay on all night to download, and it apparently ended up finishing some time that night.....hopefully if I'm able to get, say, ''Sonic Mania'' on the E-shop before the ''eeeeevil'' paid internet is implemented, its retrogradiness will make it take significantly less time. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 01:46, 28 December 2017 (EST)
== Punctuation ==
[[wikipedia:Punctuation#Punctuation_of_English|I guess it depends on where you are]]. Usually I place punctuation outside of a quotation if said punctuation isn't part of the quote, but apparently that's not correct in American English. Sheesh, grammar, too many rules. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:29, 28 December 2017 (EST)
== RE: Big Steely ==
They function identically. Also, don't want to create a stub because policy. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 20:27, 3 January 2018 (EST)
:I already know that distinction. I mean do I have all the info for the iron ball? I'm not sure. Might as well leave it until further info is added and a split proposal is created. Not sure why people want to remove the info in the first place. We aren't covering it anywhere else. As I said, SMW and SM64 versions function identically, just deployed differently. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 20:42, 3 January 2018 (EST)
::I just thought they were imperfections, like {{wp|redox|oxidization}} or rust. They aren't black to indicate they are holes. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 20:50, 3 January 2018 (EST)
== SMB3 "One thingy above the goal" ==
[[:File:SMB3 1-1 map.png|No]]. {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
== World 5-Airship ==
How is referring to something as "hectic" flowery? Is their another word perhaps that we can come to compromise before an edit war ensues? {{User:DKPetey99/sig}}
== Re:Fortune Street Dragon Quest stuff ==
If you know better than me, then feel free to change it back. Just, from what I read, they don't really seem like specific characters. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 20:09, 11 January 2018 (EST)
== i c wut u did thar ==
https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Gallery:Baby_Luigi&diff=prev&oldid=2372302 -{{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:26, 11 January 2018 (EST)
== Re:Prickly Piscines and Happy New Year! ==
Hey, I was on holiday break and kinda assumed I would take care of it whenever I could after the New Year, since I figured someone would just quietly toss them in the list of unimplemented proposals until later. I probably should've made it more apparent beforehand so as not to cause concern, but it looks like you've already implemented the changes for me, so...thanks! I also forgot I still had the "semi-active" note at the top of my user talk page, which is a certain holdover from over two years ago now that is entirely unrelated, so I've removed it. As for your Deep Cheep question - a simple misromanization of Piscatory Pete is an interesting interpretation, but I don't think that's very likely because red Cheep Cheeps that swim straight ahead appear in those submarine sections as well, whereas in the other ''Yoshi's Island'' games they are only seen hopping about the water's surface ("Flopsy Fish"), which means both types are "underwater" here. It has different behavior in that it swims in a wave pattern rather than swims directly towards the player (probably more due to difficulty avoiding that with combination of narrow tunnels and automatic scrolling), so that may be why the Shogakukan guide decided to generically label it as a green Cheep Cheep, which otherwise haven't made a real appearance in a new game since the 8-bit days. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 18:56, 14 January 2018 (EST)
== BJAODN ==
If we make note of every kinda-wonky sentence, BJAODN will be too big to even bother reading. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 17:32, 16 January 2018 (EST)
== RE: An Explanation ==
I understand. Thanks for clarifying. [[User:Howzit]] 20:55, 16 January 2018 (EST)