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I heard of the cursed goomba meme on YouTube. This is a gif that shows it. | I heard of the cursed goomba meme on YouTube. This is a gif that shows it. | ||
[[File:Cursed Goomba.gif]] | [[File:Cursed Goomba.gif|150px]] | ||
Should this be added to the article? I personally don’t think so but I want to know what you think. {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | Should this be added to the article? I personally don’t think so but I want to know what you think. {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | ||
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::::The internet is filled to the brim with this sort of thing, so I don't think it should be mentioned there either. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 19:15, November 5, 2021 (EDT) | ::::The internet is filled to the brim with this sort of thing, so I don't think it should be mentioned there either. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 19:15, November 5, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:::::I see… thanks for your time. {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | :::::I see… thanks for your time. {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | ||
::::::One more thing: could I just add it to the article with a simple summary? I need to clear my amount of personal images and I don’t want to delete any. {{User:OhoJeeOnFire/sig}} | |||
:::::::You've already been told it's not worth covering on either article, so no. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 12:02, November 18, 2021 (EST) | |||
== Goomba Variant/Relative Ontological Issue == | |||
There seems to be a sort of inconsistency/irrationality to the way the wiki classifies species that are similar to and/or derived from goombas. I find it very strange that beanies and shrooblets are classified as being "variants" of goombas (despite not being chestnut/mushrooms physically and instead being beans & aliens respectively), while galoombas (which were retroactively renamed and deemed distinct and were originally just the goombas of SMW) are considered to be mere "relatives" of goombas. The principle I see cited in most of these discussions pertaining to these sort of classifications (for example rocky wrenches being either koopas or monty moles) is that if an enemy/species is spiritually/conceptually derived from a more established and older one, then the former can be considered to be a variant of the latter. If this were consistently applied, galoombas, strollin' stus, and wanderin' gooms should definitely be considered to be types of goombas. {{unsigned|Ladishchap}} | |||
:The reason Galoomba is only a relative and not a variant is because newer games have explicitly stated they're two different-yet-related things ([https://www.mariowiki.com/Galoomba#Mario_Party:_Star_Rush_2 "A Goomba-like foe that is not a Goomba."]). Strollin' Stu is more of a conceptual derivative of Goomba via things like Kug, so I'd agree to consider that a variant. Wanderin' Goom I think is best left as is, as it looks more like a Galoomba and doesn't exactly function like either (as in it doesn't attack and gets defeated in one hit). And we considered [[Shrooblet]] to be a goomba because...what else could it possibly be other than a shroobified goomba? Even if it's not exactly a brown mushroom with dark brown shoes, [[Porcupuffer|enemies don't]] [[Octoomba|always have]] [[Lantern Ghost|to be]] [[Fishin' Boo|the same species]] [[Piranha Sprout|or have]] [[Cataquack|similar designs]] to be variants or relatives. But Galoomba was explicitly stated to not be a goomba in later games, so it's not a goomba variant but rather a relative. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 08:54, May 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
::Does "A is a variant of B" mean "A is based on B" or "A is a B"? [[User:Blinker|Blinker]] ([[User talk:Blinker|talk]]) 18:30, May 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:::Both. [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 18:36, May 13, 2022 (EDT) | |||
== New Goomba voices in Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope? == | |||
This might be a goofy question, but is this the first Mario game to have new voices for Goombas? I don't recall any Mario game that I’ve played that had these voices for Goombas. They don’t sound like they did in Mario Party 8, for example. If this is new for them, should it be mentioned on the article? [[User:Mason Popovich]] December 15, 2022. 17:05 (EST) | |||
:This is the only time I've heard these voice clips (I have no idea how they sound in Mario Party 8), so I think it's worth mentioning in the section that Goombas have new voice clips for this game. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 17:20, December 15, 2022 (EST) | |||
Okay. I’ll add this in the ''Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope'' section for Goombas. Thank you. [[User:Mason Popovich]] December 15, 17:23 (EST) | |||
== History Section == | |||
Anyone think the history section is far too long? {{User:Mushroom Head/sig}} 10:21, July 25, 2023 (EDT) | |||
:This is a late response but we should first attempt to trim words down if they're too wordy and also cut down on images. To trim words, we should look at maybe plot synopses of Mario RPG games, for instance. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:56, December 2, 2023 (EST) | |||