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Shouldn't we merge this article with ''[[Super Mario 64]]''? It's simply a remake w/ some newly created challenges, more characters and a slightly different storyline. The powers and levels are still the same, with improved graphics. [[User:Wayoshi|Wayoshi]] 20:57, 3 July 2006 (EDT)
Shouldn't we merge this article with ''[[Super Mario 64]]''? It's simply a remake w/ some newly created challenges, more characters and a slightly different storyline. The powers and levels are still the same, with improved graphics. [[User:Wayoshi|Wayoshi]] 20:57, 3 July 2006 (EDT)


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What is the purpose of it?
What is the purpose of it?
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:Later models of the DS, such as the DSi, are backlit but the original model is not. With the backlight off on the original model, it makes it easier to see the game in the light. Doesn't really do anything when turned on on the original model, though. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:01, August 17, 2019 (EDT)
:Later models of the DS, such as the DSi, are backlit but the original model is not. With the backlight off on the original model, it makes it easier to see the game in the light. Doesn't really do anything when turned on on the original model, though. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:01, August 17, 2019 (EDT)
== Pre-Existing Caps ==
So, some stars (example: ''[[Big Bob-omb's Revenge]]'') Spawn Caps that you can use to get said star (Example case: [[Mario's Cap]]) but those stars mark the caps that can be used as "Character Required", so I'm confused. <sub>Sidenote: Using a cap spawned in star 4 of [[Big Boo's Haunt]] you can Unlock Luigi, as Yoshi, as Luigi. Just to complete the Trio, one can be found on Dorie in one of the stars, don't remember which though. Probably [[Metal-Head Mario Can Move!|Metal-Head Wario Can Move]]--[[User:Svtopdog|Lava Juggle]] ([[User talk:Svtopdog|talk]]) 21:47, September 15, 2020 (EDT)</sub>
:Swimming Beast in the Cavern. Isn't this forum talk, though? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:52, September 15, 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, probably, sorry about that.--[[User:Svtopdog|Lava Juggle]] ([[User talk:Svtopdog|talk]]) 08:39, September 16, 2020 (EDT)
== Confirmation of Reference ==
Is anyone able to confirm that this move (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eb1lWFBKyf0) is a reference to ''[[Wario World]]'' and not some other form of Wario-related media? I basically know nothing about Wario games. --[[User:Jumbo Ray|Jumbo Ray]]
== More specific mission character requirements ==
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{{ProposalOutcome|passed|5-0-0|Change all level tables}}
===Change the level section to include more specific character requirements===
I was thinking about maybe making it more specific to show which missions characters can do? I am mostly fine with the current version but if I am allowed to make some changes that would be nice. Specifically, the changes to the character section. I am showing an example of this here. The collapsed table is just to avoid clutter here, and the tag will not be put into the article. Checkmarks stand for missions each character can complete, caps show that a character can complete the mission if a proper cap is collected in the level, and an x indicates that the character cannot enter the level, or if they can (though I don't know if this is even possible unless the character isn't unlocked yet), they cannot complete the mission (this is only done for BBH and character-exclusive levels). Also note that a cap might only be used to overcome an obstacle; once that obstacle is cleared, the character can dispose the cap and finish it using their original selves. For example saying "Mario" for Koopa's Footrace would indicate that only Mario can complete the level, whereas with my chart shown below, it shows that any character can complete it as long as they have the Mario cap on for the race, but they can dispose of it later and complete it as Yoshi, Luigi, or Wario (Koopa even says a unique quite if anyone other than Mario beats him). So to avoid confusion, and to make it more clear which requirements are needed, I propose changing the table (for courses, which are the 15 major levels, at least) to the one shown below.
{|border="1"cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 align="center"bgcolor=#fdfffd style="color:black" width=98% class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
!colspan=7 bgcolor=#f0fff0|<big>Courses</big>
|-
!colspan=7 bgcolor=#f6fff6|[[File:Bob-omb Battlefield 64DS.png|280px]]<br>[[File:SM64DS Bob-omb Battlefield Course Icon.png|link=Bob-omb Battlefield]]
|-style=background:#fafffa
!width=2%|#
!width=22%|Mission
!width=52%|How to get the Star
!Yoshi
!Mario
!Luigi
!Wario
|-
|1
|[[Big Bob-omb on the Summit]]
|Yoshi has to go to the top of the mountain and fight the [[King Bob-omb|Big Bob-omb]] to obtain the Power Star. To do this, Yoshi must slurp [[Bob-omb]]s and spit them at him, while the other player characters must pick them up and throw them back at him.
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|-
|2
|[[Footrace with Koopa the Quick]]
|The player has to race up the mountain against [[Koopa the Quick]]. If the player uses the [[cannon]]s, Koopa considers that cheating, and the player does not receive the Power Star. However, using the [[warp]]s is not considered cheating.
|[[File:Mariohat.jpg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Mariohat.jpg|15px]]
|[[File:Mariohat.jpg|15px]]
|-
|3
|[[5 Silver Stars!]]
|The player must collect the five [[Silver Star]]s scattered around the battlefield. In this mission, a [[Chain Chomp|Chain-Chomp]] is running loose with one of the Silver Stars at the end of its chain. This Star does not appear in the original, replacing [[Shoot to the Island in the Sky]].
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|-
|4
|[[Big Bob-omb's Revenge]]
|The player has to fight the Big Bob-omb one last time, but this time the player must pick him up and throw him three times. Yoshi cannot fight him this time, unless he uses caps. If the player throws the Big Bob-omb off the mountain, he does not count the throw. This Star does not appear in the original.
|[[File:Mariohat.jpg|15px]][[File:SM64DS Luigi'sHat.jpg|15px]][[File:SM64DS Wario'sHat.jpg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|-
|5
|[[Mario Wings to the Sky]]
|The player has to [[fly]] straight through the middle of the coin circles in the sky, collecting all five middle coins. If the player is not playing as Mario, the coins can still be collected via cannon.
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|15px]]
|-
|6
|[[Find the 8 Red Coins]]
|The player has to collect all eight [[Red Coin]]s scattered around the battlefield.
|-
|7
|[[Behind Chain Chomp's Gate|Behind Chain-Chomp's Gate]]
|The player has to unleash the Chain-Chomp by ground-pounding the [[stump]] it is chained to. If the player is Luigi, he can simply [[dash|run]] through the cage with his Power Flower power to get the Star without having to do anything to the Chain-Chomp, and the stump can be [[Ground Pound|ground-pounded]] only once as Wario or if any character eats a [[Super Mushroom|mushroom]] that is inside a [[Block (Super Mario 64)|Brick]].
|}
'''Proposer''': {{User|Altendo}}<br>
'''Deadline''': <s>December 8, 23:59 GMT</s> December 20, 2023 23:59 GMT
====Change all level tables====
#{{User|Altendo}} I think this will make it more clear on what character requirements are required to complete each mission.
#{{User|DrippingYellow}} Per proposer.
#{{User|SolemnStormcloud}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Power Flotzo}} Per all.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per all.
====Change only course tables====
====Don't change any tables====
====Comments====
Psst. Talk page proposals last two weeks, not two days. [[User:PrincessPeachFan|PrincessPeachFan]] ([[User talk:PrincessPeachFan|talk]]) 09:06, December 6, 2023 (EST)
@Altendo I agree that this arrangement is a lot more pleasing, but personally I think it would look better if you used the cap sprites from the Touch Screen map ([[File:SM64DS_MarioCap.png]][[File:SM64DS LuigiCap.png]][[File:SM64DS_WarioCap.png]]), rather than shrunken-down official renders. I'd also make the checkmarks and such 16px, since that's the width of the cap sprites, and put the "|center" tag in the image links to make them look better. Like so:
{|border="1"cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2 align="center"bgcolor=#fdfffd style="color:black" width=98% class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed"
!colspan=7 bgcolor=#f0fff0|<big>Courses</big>
|-
!colspan=7 bgcolor=#f6fff6|[[File:Bob-omb Battlefield 64DS.png|280px]]<br>[[File:SM64DS Bob-omb Battlefield Course Icon.png|link=Bob-omb Battlefield]]
|-style=background:#fafffa
!width=2%|#
!width=22%|Mission
!width=52%|How to get the Star
!Yoshi
!Mario
!Luigi
!Wario
|-
|1
|[[Big Bob-omb on the Summit]]
|Yoshi has to go to the top of the mountain and fight the [[King Bob-omb|Big Bob-omb]] to obtain the Power Star. To do this, Yoshi must slurp [[Bob-omb]]s and spit them at him, while the other player characters must pick them up and throw them back at him.
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|2
|[[Footrace with Koopa the Quick]]
|The player has to race up the mountain against [[Koopa the Quick]]. If the player uses the [[cannon]]s, Koopa considers that cheating, and the player does not receive the Power Star. However, using the [[warp]]s is not considered cheating.
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|-
|3
|[[5 Silver Stars!]]
|The player must collect the five [[Silver Star]]s scattered around the battlefield. In this mission, a [[Chain Chomp|Chain-Chomp]] is running loose with one of the Silver Stars at the end of its chain. This Star does not appear in the original, replacing [[Shoot to the Island in the Sky]].
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|4
|[[Big Bob-omb's Revenge]]
|The player has to fight the Big Bob-omb one last time, but this time the player must pick him up and throw him three times. Yoshi cannot fight him this time, unless he uses caps. If the player throws the Big Bob-omb off the mountain, he does not count the throw. This Star does not appear in the original.
|[[File:SM64DS MarioCap.png|16px|center]][[File:SM64DS LuigiCap.png|16px|center]][[File:SM64DS WarioCap.png|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|5
|[[Mario Wings to the Sky]]
|The player has to [[fly]] straight through the middle of the coin circles in the sky, collecting all five middle coins. If the player is not playing as Mario, the coins can still be collected via cannon.
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|rowspan="3"|[[File:Check mark.svg|16px|center]]
|-
|6
|[[Find the 8 Red Coins]]
|The player has to collect all eight [[Red Coin]]s scattered around the battlefield.
|-
|7
|[[Behind Chain Chomp's Gate|Behind Chain-Chomp's Gate]]
|The player has to unleash the Chain-Chomp by ground-pounding the [[stump]] it is chained to. If the player is Luigi, he can simply [[dash|run]] through the cage with his Power Flower power to get the Star without having to do anything to the Chain-Chomp, and the stump can be [[Ground Pound|ground-pounded]] only once as Wario or if any character eats a [[Super Mushroom|mushroom]] that is inside a [[Block (Super Mario 64)|Brick]].
|}
- [[User:DrippingYellow|DrippingYellow]] ([[User talk:DrippingYellow|talk]]) 13:20, December 6, 2023 (EST)
Honestly, I don't think this needs a proposal at all. If you have a way to improve the tables, just do it, and see if anyone has any problems with it. If they do, address them. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 09:55, December 12, 2023 (EST)
:Just for future maintenance's sake I'd rather keep repetition of checkmarks than rowspan them. {{User:Mario/sig}} 02:48, December 16, 2023 (EST)
::I wholeheartedly agree. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 21:12, December 17, 2023 (EST)
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