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Can you believe that? [[Kings|The King]] of [[Ice Land]] (whether it's the one from the NES version, the SNES remake, or [[Penguin King|if he's a penguin himself]]) needs to do something about it! We need spread the word, and ensure it reaches the king of Ice Land himself! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:24, March 4, 2024 (EST) | Can you believe that? [[Kings|The King]] of [[Ice Land]] (whether it's the one from the NES version, the SNES remake, or [[Penguin King|if he's a penguin himself]]) needs to do something about it! We need spread the word, and ensure it reaches the king of Ice Land himself! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:24, March 4, 2024 (EST) | ||
:Well throwing baby penguins off cliffs have become a common occurrence. I wonder how that started... I've already told the king of Ice Land and he has agreed to buy all those Safety Bounce badges from Flower Kingdom and mandate them be equipped to those babies to make sure they bounce back with a vengeance! Meanwhile, try to bar anything Wario-related from Ice Land! You don't know what kind of nefarious Cold War-related deeds he might be up to! {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:15, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Fix == | == Fix == | ||
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This little Marionesian repairman is cuter than that yellow plumber guy Wario. Wario would get jealous of that blue fixer's adorableness and sweetness, it rots his teeth! {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 16:56, March 4, 2024 (EST) | This little Marionesian repairman is cuter than that yellow plumber guy Wario. Wario would get jealous of that blue fixer's adorableness and sweetness, it rots his teeth! {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 16:56, March 4, 2024 (EST) | ||
:I think Wario would just hate him by proxy because Felix is a goody two shoes according to Wario. Felix is above working for this guy and would dispute his attitude and his willingness to wreck things. I wish he can come over and fix some broken links, too! Especially the missing images. What will we do without knowing what [[File:Shirt.PNG]] looks like for sure? {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:18, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== In Search of Lost Brother BJAODN page == | == In Search of Lost Brother BJAODN page == | ||
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I got another BJAODN page created: [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/In Search of Lost Brother|In Search of Lost Brother]]. Could you please add it and [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Bedtime for Drain-Head!|Bedtime for Drain-Head!]] (which seems to have been forgotten about) to the Complete "articles" articles section of the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN|main BJAODN page]]? [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 12:41, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | I got another BJAODN page created: [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/In Search of Lost Brother|In Search of Lost Brother]]. Could you please add it and [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Bedtime for Drain-Head!|Bedtime for Drain-Head!]] (which seems to have been forgotten about) to the Complete "articles" articles section of the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN|main BJAODN page]]? [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 12:41, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | ||
:Done! {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:11, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | :Done! {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:11, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | ||
::The "MarioWiki:BJAODN/" prefix shouldn't be on the links (pipe them like so: <nowiki>[[MarioWiki:BJAODN/In Search of Lost Brother|In Search of Lost Brother]]</nowiki>), but thanks once again! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:20, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:::Also done. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:20, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Cluckboom and Bone Twister == | |||
This may say more about how I personally interpret these things than anything concrete, but Cluckbooms are called "[[Cluckboom#Additional names|Bomb Coo Coo]]" in Japan, whereas Plurps are called "[[Plurp#Additional names|Coo Coo]]". Due to (what appears to me to be) a derived name, their similar designs, their similar behaviors, and the fact that the teams for ''Super Mario Sunshine'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy'' included a lot of the same people, my interpretation is that Cluckbooms are a ''type'' of Plurp, not just a similar-looking or related enemy. I think ''Galaxy'' has more derived elements from ''Sunshine'' than are widely understood, so I thought it was worth mentioning this relationship on the Cluckboom's description on the ''Super Mario Galaxy'' page. I have a similar (but admittedly weaker) impression of Bone Twisters. If not a direct type, than I think those guys are at least suppose to be related to ''Sunshine''{{'}}s Wind Spirits. They have similar Japanese names ("[[Wind Spirit#Names in other languages|Wind-kun]]" for Wind Spirits, and "[[Bone Twister#Names in other languages|Sand Wind-kun]]" for Bone Twisters) and they are both whirlwinds with big silly eyes. – [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 14:23, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:The similarities are noted in the articles themselves, but I think it's haste to establish an explicit connection in the manner the enemy summaries are doing. The Japanese are somewhat shared but not particularly direct evidence for a relationship given the general reliance on generic onomatopoeia given as basis for these names. I'm sure there's several examples in the wiki with shared Japanese names that involve onomatopoeia. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:29, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::That's fair. I agree that names do not imply a relationship between enemies on their own. I feel like relationships have been suggested elsewhere on those grounds that I don't agree with. (I really don't think Chargin' Chucks and Boom Booms are related beyond both being Koopas.) But for Cluckboom specifically, do the other things I mentioned not make that interpretation grounded in objectivity? If Cluckbooms and Plurps were chicken enemies that behaved differently or looked nothing alike, that would be one thing, but they are very similar. Similarly proportioned. Similarly sized. Similar warm color schemes. Similar flight patterns and behavior. They both need to be hit indirectly to ground them. The biggest difference to me is that Cluckbooms drop bombs, whereas Plurps drop goop. Those details, in combination with having shared game staff and sharing "Coo Coo" in their names... I feel like this is all too much to suggest its coincidental or a subjective interpretation. – [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 14:59, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:::No, I can see where you're coming from. I don't think it's an unreasonable interpretation. I just don't agree with the wording. Perhaps just mention "Plurp-like" or "Similar to its Plurp predecessor", so you can note the similarities without drawing too much of a direct link. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:58, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::::I guess that's fine. I'm sorry for being obstinate. – [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:16, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:::::None taken. Arguments on this can get pretty passionate on the wiki. I didn't interpret that from you however. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:19, March 16, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Proposal cleaned up == | |||
I cleaned up [[MarioWiki:Proposals#Broaden the scope of the {{unreferenced}} template|my proposal]] by adding the <code><nowiki><pre></nowiki></code> tags. You should take a look at what the template will look like from above. What do you think how my proposal looks? {{User:GuntherBB/sig}} 21:24, March 30, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:Unfortunately, I probably missed it. Apologies for this. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:21, April 5, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== I am a Yoshi Hater! == | |||
That's right! I don't like Yoshi in the slightest! Did you really think i actually liked this guy? Hah! <small>I like [[Wario]]!</small> | |||
[[File:Mario and Yoshi YS Game Over art.jpg|100px]][[File:Wario MP10.png|200px]] And don't expect me to kill Warios anymore! They're my friends now, an endangered species! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 02:53, April 1, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:You don't seem to be feeling better... I hope you feel better soon!! {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:17, April 5, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Sending a Wario your way!... == | |||
[[File:Flaming Wario Artwork.jpg|200px]] | |||
Oh. Looks like he's been lit up on the journey here. Anyone up for s'mores over the Wario fire? --[[User:OmegaRuby|OmegaRuby]] ([[User talk:OmegaRuby|talk]]) 09:58, April 5, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:I am totally down for it! I caution that your schmoes are probably going to have a garlicy aftertaste. That can't be helped! I'm sure it'll make it taste better. Pass me the marshmallows, I'm always ready! [[File:DNS3 Flaming Wario.png]][[File:YCGB Mario sprite 2.png]] {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:16, April 5, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Stickers == | |||
I'm aware my proposal to trim the Stickers list was unsuccessful, but it still hinders the accessibility of the ''Super Mario'' stickers, so I created a separate list page for them. Hopefully this doesn't go against the rules. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 16:01, April 5, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== SSB conflict == | |||
There's currently a conflict over the deletion of ''Super Smash Bros.'' redirects on an [[User talk:RHG1951#Smash redirects|administrator's talk page]]. I worry I've posted too much on there because I'm concerned some who are in disagreement are trying to subvert the democratic process of the proposals system. Even though a handful probably did not think that the redirects would be deleted outright, the proposal passed nonetheless, the proposer reportedly intended for the redirects to be deleted, and it is one of the proposals yet to be enacted. Is this a case where the wiki staff has to come to a resolution or a follow-up proposal? Just a bit confused. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:12, April 9, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Please help me! == | |||
Hello! I just uploaded a video clip a few minutes ago, but I left it in MP4 format, thinking that it would work. However, when I made the page, all that was there was the audio from the video clip without the actual clip! I tried blanking the page, but that didn't do anything. The page in question is [[Media:PPS Transformation Cutscene.mp4|here]]. Can you or someone else delete the page so that I can start over and make sure that the file works after I convert it to a GIF? It's not linked to anything, so you don't need to worry about re-linking pages. Thank you so much! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 15:47, April 14, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Regarding last warning == | |||
Hi, sorry for the late response. I'm okay that you gave me a last warning, since I did go overboard without understanding what the scope of the proposal was about, and I generally think that this is probably why proposers should enact the proposers. And I think the last warning will help me be more careful about what I do on the wiki from now on. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 11:39, April 25, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:Okey dokey. We're not going to, like, block you for making mistakes on like one page, just be very very careful about multiple edits across many, many pages. {{User:Mario/sig}} 23:19, April 25, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== sections == | |||
Just wanted to ask if I handled something appropriately, since I'm being extra cautious with my last warning in place. I made a proposal in response to some users preferring to sort the sections by franchise, rather than by series, even though I felt (and I'm going by my personal opinion) that sorting it that way was opening the way for headcanons in sections (and how convenience isn't always reflection of official confirmation from Nintendo). So anyway, besides the point, rather than edit war like over the [[Cog (obstacle)]] article, I made a proposal about a conflict I got in (and did some months back over the [[Lava]] article). Was this a good way about going about it? When there's conflicts over how an article is done and no corresponding proposal has been done, I think the response is to make a proposal on it. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 09:57, May 8, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:Making a proposal is an appropriate response to this, yes. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:16, May 8, 2024 (EDT) | |||
==sidebar== | |||
Asked two things on [[MediaWiki talk:Sidebar]], if you're interested in taking a look. It's more an admin question since users can't edit Sidebars. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:05, May 10, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:(shrug) I don't really have an opinion, but let's see what {{@|Mario}} has to say about it. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)|talk]]) 15:10, May 10, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::I answered the questions. Basically, for NIWA links, I don't see the necessity, and for the Mario Boards -> Super Mario Boards request, I also don't know if it's beneficial or a hindrance. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:19, May 10, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:::When I said NIWA, I meant a link to only niwanetwork.org. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 16:56, May 10, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== proposal question == | |||
Are proposals (to a degree) a way for users to discuss some things that they wonder about with the ''Super Mario'' franchise? For example, I felt mixed on whether ''Super Mario Bros. Movie'' was introducing more forms of media into the ''Super Mario'' platforming series and voted both options (though I later changed to oppose, but had to in any case since that's the policy for two-option proposals). But anyway, I was mixed on the idea, but now it helps to see community input. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:08, May 12, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:Proposals usually do call discussion more than other subjects, so it is normal to use these to solicit opinion. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:15, May 12, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::Someone thought my proposal was a joke, which hurt my feelings a bit. I do wish I had executed it better on the first post, since it was brainstorming aloud with digression and trying to make connections that weren't necessarily there. Now it's, as you said, "soliciting opinion" from others (including myself) as to the film's mainline status. The film was so successful, I thought it was reasonable and not a joke to assume it could be going into mainline of the ''Super Mario'' franchise. I wouldn't be opposed to if that had become the case, so that it can help ''Super Mario'' have more fans than just people who play video games, but I want to assure the proposal wasn't created as a joke. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:22, May 12, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:::You probably need to hash it out with Hewer that the question was a bit disrespectful. In my opinion, if you do think your ideas aren't very strong enough for a proposal, it might help to create a talk page discussion first on the appropriate page. {{User:Mario/sig}} | |||
== main page == | |||
Since you're an admin here, I was wondering what your thoughts are on [[Talk:Main Page#Redesign main page?|this idea]]. It's a discussion that I started about updating the main page design, and I cited a few things that I felt could use with improvement (such as how the List of references article, is grouped with wiki pages). Since this would be such a big decision, I wondered if at least one staff member could weigh in and give comment. One user expressed interest and another wasn't opposed but seemed otherwise neutral. All of us agree the main page design in my sandbox isn't finalized and just a preliminary version that I'm presenting to others. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 13:04, May 15, 2024 (EDT) | |||
==Appeal attempt== | |||
===[Big Super Mario Fan]=== | |||
*[https://www.mariowiki.com/User_talk:Big_Super_Mario_Fan] | |||
====[Big Super Mario Fan]==== | |||
*[This final warning was completely unnecessary. Because the games where all listet from oldest to newest already. I just put them in one section. This has nothing to do with a proposal.] | |||
[[User:Big Super Mario Fan|Big Super Mario Fan]] ([[User talk:Big Super Mario Fan|talk]]) 02:05, May 17, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:You will need to format your appeal in [[MarioWiki:Appeals]]. {{User:Mario/sig}} 11:42, May 17, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::Ok. [[User:Big Super Mario Fan|Big Super Mario Fan]] ([[User talk:Big Super Mario Fan|talk]]) 19:09, May 17, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== was my proposal clear? == | |||
I made a proposal some minutes ago about standardizing the use of History in the ''Super Mario'' franchise on articles meeting certain criteria. I don't think there's anything in the rules against formatting the headings as such, so when I say "standardize, it's referring to "if someone changes it, their edit has to be undone." | |||
The [[Dinosaur]] article had the "History in the ''Super Mario'' franchise" heading undone. The way I handle the situation is that it stays reverted unless the proposal passes, otherwise a dispute could form. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:43, May 17, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:You should gauge from the amount of engagement your proposal is getting. I'm not entirely sure why the proposal was made, and I don't think the amount of options makes it particularly clear what's exactly going to happen. {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:33, May 18, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::Did [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=MarioWiki:Proposals&curid=28535&diff=4215038&oldid=4215014 this] make it more clear? [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 13:03, May 18, 2024 (EDT) | |||