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== Rule change == | |||
*Images should be optimized and not exceed 5 megabytes in file size. | *Images should be optimized and not exceed 5 megabytes in file size. | ||
*Images' dimensions should be in the original size and never exceed 5000 pixels in width or height. | *Images' dimensions should be in the original size and never exceed 5000 pixels in width or height. | ||
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<br><nowiki>*previews, is surprised it actually embeds the imgur image, changes to linked thumbnail*</nowiki> - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (EDT) | <br><nowiki>*previews, is surprised it actually embeds the imgur image, changes to linked thumbnail*</nowiki> - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 23:23, 5 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
::But that crop just looks even more odd than cropping [[Paper Mario]] images. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:20, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | ::But that crop just looks even more odd than cropping [[Paper Mario]] images. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 00:20, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::[[File:Koopa Bros | :::[[File:PM Koopa Bros Toad.png|thumb]]This (right) doesn't look odd to me. | ||
:::Remember that the Paper Mario screen area was allowing for 10%ish overscan. The average player simply would not have seen most (or even all in some cases) of the black area. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | :::Remember that the Paper Mario screen area was allowing for 10%ish overscan. The average player simply would not have seen most (or even all in some cases) of the black area. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::The case on the right: I'd like to see the remaining black border part made transparent. {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 01:05, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | ::::The case on the right: I'd like to see the remaining black border part made transparent. {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 01:05, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
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:Like I said, you can get away with it with that image and it looks fine, but not in every case. The ''Paper Mario'' ones cut the dialogue too close to the top for that to look okay (note that the Battle HUD - [[:File:PMBowserBattle1.png]] - has a 202-height active area as well). I've edited Koopa Bros. Toad.png (right) to have those two partially-surviving rows of black pixels be transparent - it looks fine, but it's more work to do. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 07:45, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | :Like I said, you can get away with it with that image and it looks fine, but not in every case. The ''Paper Mario'' ones cut the dialogue too close to the top for that to look okay (note that the Battle HUD - [[:File:PMBowserBattle1.png]] - has a 202-height active area as well). I've edited Koopa Bros. Toad.png (right) to have those two partially-surviving rows of black pixels be transparent - it looks fine, but it's more work to do. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 07:45, 6 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
[[File:Koopa Bros | [[File:PM Koopa Bros Toad.png|frame|right]] | ||
Well, if the screenshot is put on articles at the original size, that the transparent part by the top side of the picture will show as white. Since we have #f9f9f9 frames for pictures, If the picture has dark colors, this will make a "light gray--white--dark" contrast, which does not look good in my opinion. Thoughts? {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 11:27, 9 July 2016 (EDT) | Well, if the screenshot is put on articles at the original size, that the transparent part by the top side of the picture will show as white. Since we have #f9f9f9 frames for pictures, If the picture has dark colors, this will make a "light gray--white--dark" contrast, which does not look good in my opinion. Thoughts? {{User:A gossip-loving Toad/sig}} 11:27, 9 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
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== Differences Between Formats Explained Better Than I Ever Could == | == Differences Between Formats Explained Better Than I Ever Could == | ||
Here's a video that explains the differences between formats and what image format is best for what situation, better than I ever could. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww12lImOJ38] Would it make a great link to refer to for this policy page? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 19:28, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | Here's a video that explains the differences between formats and what image format is best for what situation, better than I ever could. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww12lImOJ38] Would it make a great link to refer to for this policy page? --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 19:28, 16 May 2017 (EDT) | ||
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Why can't I upload an image? [[User:Starclimber the NightWing|Starclimber the NightWing]] ([[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|message]]) [[File:NightWing.png]] 15:05, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | Why can't I upload an image? [[User:Starclimber the NightWing|Starclimber the NightWing]] ([[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|message]]) [[File:NightWing.png]] 15:05, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | ||
:To be able upload images, you must be [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]]. To become autoconfirmed, you must have your account for four days and make at least five edits. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 15:09, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | :To be able upload images, you must be [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]]. To become autoconfirmed, you must have your account for four days and make at least five edits. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 15:09, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | ||
::This also relates to creating your user page, in response to your question on {{User|Glowsquid}}'s page. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 15:10, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
Why do you have to be autoconfirmed to upload images?[[User:Starclimber the NightWing|Starclimber the NightWing]] ([[User talk:Starclimber the NightWing|message]]) [[File:NightWing.png]] 15:17, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
:The restriction prevents vandals from being able to join and upload spam images. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 15:20, 12 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
==Dashes== | |||
The dash (-) is easy enough to type on keyboards, so I don't see why it should be forbidden from filenames. {{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 13:20, September 26, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:[[User_talk:Trig_Jegman#Further_regarding_file_moves|As I told Trig]], I'm already working on this. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 13:24, September 26, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Screenshots == | |||
What about use [https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/screenshot-youtube/gjoijpfmdhbjkkgnmahganhoinjjpohk Screenshot YouTube] to take 1080p screenshots? {{unsigned|99.199.16.24}} | |||
:If you can't get native-resolution screenshots, YouTube screenshots are fine. The former are preferable, but not required. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 21:07, October 31, 2019 (EDT) | |||
==On renaming files== | |||
Should the policy on renaming files be made stricter? The comments on [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive 54#Impose stricter policies for renaming files|this proposal]] indicated that this would be better suited to a discussion than a proposal, so that's why I'm starting the topic here. | |||
My suggested changes to the policy on renaming files are as such: | |||
*Renaming files based simply on easy-to-type symbols (like hyphens, commas, and parentheses) should be discouraged. | |||
*The rule on renaming files that already describe the topic accurately should be enforced more strictly. (There are countless times when I've seen a reason to move the files back, but don't want to flood the Recent Changes with renames should I actually rename them all back.) | |||
{{User:TheDarkStar/sig}} 20:58, November 4, 2019 (EST) | |||
:So, I talked to the other admins about this about a month ago. That was the point behind [[Special:Diff/2768523|this change]] and [[Special:Diff/2510021|this change]], for the respective bullet points. Files containing punctuation that is also used in the subject's name and files that are already clear enough should not be moved. Files with unnecessary punctuation should be moved to remove them, as it can be confusing when trying to find the file if a file is named "File:Mario-SM64-Artwork (2).png". I also understand consistency with file names, that is part of why we are requiring "png" over "PNG". But we aren't incredibly strict with file names because there isn't really a reason to do so, it kind of takes the fun out of it. Zelda Wiki and Fire Emblem Wiki use strict file name policies, and it's honestly a bit difficult for me to find "File:Ma 3ds02 adventurer vallite enemy.gif" (this is an actual file name) rather than "File:Vallite Adventurer 3DS Enemy Map Sprite.gif", for example. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 01:36, November 5, 2019 (EST) | |||
::now I will get back to this when I actually have some spare time, but I would like to help make a guided list of acceptable punctuation (officially declared or not) and potentially devise a more effective plan for dealing with the many pre-existing file names. Again, if there is one specifically you would like to discuss, please [[User talk:Trig Jegman|tell me]]. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig]] - 18:06, November 5, 2019 (EST) | |||
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::Okay, to start I'd like to address why I most specifically address hyphens: They enable more duplicate or super similar names for files, and create quite a lot of confusion. As an example, simply the difference between using File:MP3-Star and File:MP3 Star is the difference between two different files in existance. Using a space for the hyphen makes it even worse, as I have seen a multitutde of games that use a combination of the following options; | |||
:*File:MP3- Star | |||
:*File:MP3 - Star | |||
:*File:MP3 -Star | |||
:*File:MP3 Star | |||
::Four different files could be virtually identically named, and that is not taking into consideration that the capitalization of file names (MP Star vs MP star vs Mp Star) ''also impacts file distinguishment.'' To fully disclose, '''unless there are two virtually identical named files with name capital differences, I do not move files just to change the capitalization of the file name itself, and when I do, [[User:Trig Jegman#Terminology|I usually indicate when that is the case under NCR]]'''. To avoid using hypens that are not related to the file would limit the amount of confusing duplicated file names present in many games. This '''is not to say hyphens cannot be used''', as such enemies like Cheep-Cheeps or other hyphenated terms exist, but it is to say that '''the amount of hyphens being used currently is excessive and not necessary. | |||
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::Similar things can be said for various other punctuation symbols. Some of which are ''not'' as common as believed, but simply just overcomplicate the process involved. I have yet to encounter a single file name in which a parentheses set is required, and the use of periods in files is not always fantastic for coding purposes. Apostrophes are also interesting to note because there appears to be a variety of them available to use (as I mention [[User:Trig Jegman#Notes|here for Waluigi's Reign). '''While I believe apostrophes are are acceptable to use, it does lead the possibility of other alternate punctuation marks being available that other people use.''' | |||
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::I do everything to be easy to understand first and organized second. I know I can harp on and on about the Game Abbreviation-Subject-File Type.extention format that I hold on to--which I did not make, but was rather about 55-60% of the norm and made the most linear sense--being used, but I do not apply to this to files that would only be formatted this way to be organized. [[:File:Melty Molten Galaxy SMG early volcano.png]] is not in the aforementioned format, but it's name is appropriate and will not necessarily appear in another form (artwork/rendering) and hence I did not move it. The movement of File:World A-3LL.png to File:SMAS LL World A-3 Title Card.png was appropriate because the prior name did not mention it was a title card, and the extremely identical naming to the same level with File:World A-3.png and File:WorldA-3SMBTheLostLevels.png, it needed further distinguishment from the other two varieties (map and level screenshot). Placing it into the format made sense, as it was standardizing a chaotic assortment of files. Sometimes, a file that would be like SBLSBSMS, which would mean sirena beach legendary sand bird super mario sunshine, makes sense to change and expand out upon to reduce confusion. | |||
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::In my opinion, as I have stated a many a time now, is that the image use policy should be rewritten more for the initial naming of files and should be extremely clear about what SHOULD be used, and what should NOT be used, as the current writing comes off as though it is an acceptable gray area. '''I do not think that any punctuation that is not an apostrophe, hyphen, or ampersand should be used for any file whatsoever, and the three mentioned should only be used when it applies to the file name (Mario's Glove in Luigi's Mansion) or the game series name (Game & Watch Gallery 2)'''. I believe a SPLIT SECTION should be written for the renaming and movement of files (maybe using some of [[User:Trig Jegman#Trig How to Rename Files|what I already have?]] about what specifically should be addressed in the movement and understanding the purpose of doing so. This section sould also include the full process of moving, replacing name on a page, and flagging redirects for deletion because it isn't really well demonstrated here. | |||
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::Some other things to truly stress standardizing is the use of fully lowercase extentions, the use of jpg over jpeg, and splitting ogg to be the appropriate oga/ogv. Aboutfiles should exist on all pages (I have passed a few that did not have any). | |||
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::on a smaller last note, I think we should dissuade the use of APNGs and rather suggest gifs to be used. | |||
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::Thanks for hearing my input. Leave a talk page message if you need me. [[User:Trig Jegman|Trig Jegman (but it's mama luigi to you)]] - 19:24, November 5, 2019 (EST) | |||
== Typos == | |||
#"SVG is great alternative" -> "SVG is '''a''' great alternative". | |||
#"'''i.e.''' Japanese kana or Greek letters" -> "e.g." | |||
#"or apostrophes that is used" -> "or apostrophes that '''are''' used". | |||
<span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]])</span> 03:01, May 19, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:Fixed the first and last one. "i.e." is being used correctly. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 23:16, May 1, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Append Video Filters and Forced Aspect Ratio Changes == | |||
[[File:PMTTYD Spend Days Again Peach.png|thumb|File history indicates an HD texture pack was used.]] | |||
I did upload images recently claiming HD texture packs are against policy, but it isn't explicitly stated. In the spirit of this policy page as well as not having to engage [[MarioWiki:Don't shoot your foot off]], I believe this should also be noted more directly. Not to be confused with [[Wii U]] and [[Nintendo Switch]] capable of HD output, which is official, through {{wp|HDMI}}. --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 09:33, May 25, 2024 (EDT) | |||