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==(First topic)== | |||
I think the "lion" is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin Qilin] | I think the "lion" is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qilin Qilin] | ||
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Theres a new area in the game: Look at the cheep cheep scene in the trailer. Thats a new water area. Also, the Sand Kingdom is called Tostareena. Dont forget how when you collect a moon, it just jumps to the next mission, theres no mission select, although moons can be collected out of order. Dont forget about that dark village seen in the trailer, too. Also, ya know how they said stickers can be bought? Well check this out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSVcuI0WXq0 Does this mean Peachs Castle will be a level? {{unsigned|Ian64}} | Theres a new area in the game: Look at the cheep cheep scene in the trailer. Thats a new water area. Also, the Sand Kingdom is called Tostareena. Dont forget how when you collect a moon, it just jumps to the next mission, theres no mission select, although moons can be collected out of order. Dont forget about that dark village seen in the trailer, too. Also, ya know how they said stickers can be bought? Well check this out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sSVcuI0WXq0 Does this mean Peachs Castle will be a level? {{unsigned|Ian64}} | ||
How about 8-bit Luigi? | |||
https://gameranx.com/features/id/142536/article/super-mario-odyssey-how-to-solve-that-new-hint-art-tweet-8-bit-luigi-easter-egg/ {{Unsigned|1.158.100.27}} | |||
==Super Mario Odyssey confirmed to be translated to Traditional Chinese== | ==Super Mario Odyssey confirmed to be translated to Traditional Chinese== | ||
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===References=== | ===References=== | ||
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== Chargin Chucks in Super Mario Oddssey == | == Chargin Chucks in Super Mario Oddssey == | ||
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===References=== | ===References=== | ||
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== Seaside Kingdom == | == Seaside Kingdom == | ||
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:I think that the Forgotten Isle is that unnamed tropical kingdom mentioned in the 9/13 Direct, as I highly doubt anyone would be able to reach that area due to the poison water surrounding it, hence why it's forgotten. -WaluigiSquad11 | :I think that the Forgotten Isle is that unnamed tropical kingdom mentioned in the 9/13 Direct, as I highly doubt anyone would be able to reach that area due to the poison water surrounding it, hence why it's forgotten. -WaluigiSquad11 | ||
::Well, if you take a look at this, it is confirmed as a sticker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNkqSOjYgA {{unsigned| | ::Well, if you take a look at this, it is confirmed as a sticker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNkqSOjYgA {{unsigned|Yoshi the SSM}} | ||
== I believe I have found a source to Boxer Shorts Mario. == | == I believe I have found a source to Boxer Shorts Mario. == | ||
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I think it should be added to the source of the costume. | I think it should be added to the source of the costume. | ||
{{unsigned|Xenoglitch}} | {{unsigned|Xenoglitch}} | ||
:We already uploaded the wallpaper {{ | :We already uploaded the wallpaper {{file link|Mario beach 2016.jpg|here}}, it was uploaded by Play Nintendo too. I guess this image could indeed be the source for that costume.--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 18:23, 27 September 2017 (EDT) | ||
== Snail Creatures in Super Mario Odyssey Winkles From SuperStar Saga? == | == Snail Creatures in Super Mario Odyssey Winkles From SuperStar Saga? == | ||
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Hey guys, I'm pretty new here, but I'd like to add the Power Moon names into the respective pages since I know a good source to find them all. Do you guys know how to edit the pages themselves? | Hey guys, I'm pretty new here, but I'd like to add the Power Moon names into the respective pages since I know a good source to find them all. Do you guys know how to edit the pages themselves? | ||
{{unsigned| | {{unsigned|OneOneTwo - 112}} | ||
:The page is protected so [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed users]] and above can edit it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:41, 26 October 2017 (EDT) | :The page is protected so [[MarioWiki:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed users]] and above can edit it. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 17:41, 26 October 2017 (EDT) | ||
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== Checkpoint locations == | == Checkpoint locations == | ||
We have to address this issue sooner or later, might as well be sooner. | We have to address this issue sooner or later, might as well be sooner. | ||
The ''Super Mario Odyssey'' [[ | The ''Super Mario Odyssey'' [[Template:SMO kingdoms|kingdoms template]] currently lists every single checkpoint in the game, with links (mostly red) to each and every one of them, as if to suggest we should actually create articles for all of them. We should ''not''. Do we have articles for every Power Moon? No. Do we have articles for every [[List of treasures in Wario: Master of Disguise|treasure]] in ''Wario: Master of Disguise''? No. Should we give articles to every single solitary checkpoint in ''Super Mario Odyssey'' just because they have a name? No, no, a thousand times ''no''. We don't split Windswept Valley from [[Tiny-Huge Island]], nor do we split Hoohoo Mountain Base from [[Hoohoo Mountain]]. Something must be done. | ||
There was a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/ | There was a [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/51#Do_not_create_Super_Mario_Odyssey_sublocation_pages|proposal]] about this last year which the proposer ended up canceling. The problem with this proposal was that it wasn't clear enough about exactly which locations should get articles and which shouldn't. So I went over them and organized them into groups: what we should keep, what we ''might'' want to keep, and what we should get rid of. | ||
'''KEEPERS:''' These are the areas that I think should stay. It includes three different kinds of areas. | '''KEEPERS:''' These are the areas that I think should stay. It includes three different kinds of areas. | ||
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I plan to make a proposal out of this soon, with options to keep the "keepers" only, include the "borderlines", or everything. It will, of course, be preliminary. If we keep the "borderline" articles, we can always weed out the ones we don't want with later proposals. Conversely, later proposals can call for the creation of articles previously deemed unworthy. There is absolutely no perfect solution to this problem, since in several cases, what qualifies as "notable enough" to have a page is subjective. However, we ''need'' to draw a line. So, any thoughts or questions? {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:09, 13 February 2019 (EST) | I plan to make a proposal out of this soon, with options to keep the "keepers" only, include the "borderlines", or everything. It will, of course, be preliminary. If we keep the "borderline" articles, we can always weed out the ones we don't want with later proposals. Conversely, later proposals can call for the creation of articles previously deemed unworthy. There is absolutely no perfect solution to this problem, since in several cases, what qualifies as "notable enough" to have a page is subjective. However, we ''need'' to draw a line. So, any thoughts or questions? {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:09, 13 February 2019 (EST) | ||
: While I agree that some of the locations are borderline mundane, I feel that if the developers placed a checkpoint at that location and named it, it was significant enough for the player to return to. Half of the articles are already done, and I actually would be willing to finish the last half off if nobody minds. It's always possible to delete after everything's done later, so it can't hurt to have all the pages and then clear up the garbage later... | |||
:EDIT: This was last year, lol. I'll do it anyway though. [[User:4e696e6a6f795844|4e696e6a6f795844]] ([[User talk:4e696e6a6f795844|talk]]) 22:22, March 10, 2020 (EDT) | |||
::Should wait for a consensus first. I'm not sure what has and hasn't been done yet, though. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:25, March 10, 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::@Alex95: You can see how much is done by looking at the [[Template:SMO kingdoms|kingdoms template]]. As mentioned, about half of them have been made. | |||
:::@4e696e6a6f795844: I don't see the point in waiting to create a bunch of articles that are just going to be deleted. It will be a waste of time and effort, and I've already been waiting a ''year'' for this. {{User:7feetunder/sig}} 21:22, May 10, 2020 (EDT) | |||
I think that this is a good idea, and that the "borderline" locations should be kept since they are locations that have a slightly different environment than the rest of the kingdom, such as Desert Oasis having water and palm trees and Goomba woods having Goombas and pine trees. {{User:Matthew aka Mario}} 10:41, April 12, 2021 | |||
== I have a suggestion. == | == I have a suggestion. == | ||
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:I don't really think so, things like this are pretty random within the series- the same thing occurs in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', as well as probably a few other games that aren't coming to mind immediately. It's easier to sign just using this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, rather than typing out the full link, and you should really leave your name visible when commenting so people know that it's you rather than having to click the link. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 11:55, January 2, 2020 (EST) | :I don't really think so, things like this are pretty random within the series- the same thing occurs in ''Super Mario Galaxy'' and ''Super Mario Galaxy 2'', as well as probably a few other games that aren't coming to mind immediately. It's easier to sign just using this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, rather than typing out the full link, and you should really leave your name visible when commenting so people know that it's you rather than having to click the link. [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] ([[User talk:BBQ Turtle|talk]]) 11:55, January 2, 2020 (EST) | ||
::And Super Paper Mario does the same thing in reverse (can breathe underwater, can't breathe in space). It's something that's been weird and inconsistent across basically the entire franchise's history, I don't think we need to mention it. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:59, January 2, 2020 (EST) | ::And Super Paper Mario does the same thing in reverse (can breathe underwater, can't breathe in space). It's something that's been weird and inconsistent across basically the entire franchise's history, I don't think we need to mention it. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 11:59, January 2, 2020 (EST) | ||
==Speedtech== | |||
I would add some "advanced movement" with things like BUMP or Instant Roll Cancels, techniques used in speedrunning. | |||
[[user:klegum|klegum]] | |||
:If we were a speedtech wiki, then gladly. Otherwise, we generally want to avoid "walkthrough-ism" where possible. --{{User:Lord Grammaticus/sig}} 17:47, March 15, 2020 (EDT) | |||
== Mario Kart Tour globe == | |||
In official artwork, the globe used uses the map design from this game. Ive made an image showing matching coastlines here. even the lake and an island is present, it is simplified but it is based on it. [[User:RSM|RSM]], hoping to make amends soon. 12:10, March 5, 2022 (EST) | |||
[[File:MKT vs SMO Coastline.png|thumb]] | |||
== Remove Enemy Table Spoils Column? == | |||
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I'm don't think I like spoils section in enemy tables. The big thing here is that almost everything in Odyssey appears in five different contexts with different kinds of rewards. [[Yoofoe]] is probably the big stickler here, considering the Power Moon and the Life Up Heart are from different circumstances yet saying which ones they are would shove much of the Yoofoe article into the enemy table's box. Also [[Cheep Cheep]], where the one you fish out may as well be different objects than the ones you can bump into but both of their "spoils" are lumped together as though they are interacted with in the same way. [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 22:14, August 23, 2024 (EDT) | |||
:I am biased because I am the person who first started integrating this information for the 3D ''Super Mario'' games many years ago, beginning with ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'', but I believe it is brief and valuable information. What an enemy drops when defeated sometimes varies on the context, but I feel like that is information that can be further stipulated on their respective enemy articles. Simply having quick cursory context clarifying that enemies sometimes drop things different from others provided mechanical context that I think is nice. - [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 22:44, August 23, 2024 (EDT) | |||
::I think the enemy spoils section should be kept. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 23:29, August 23, 2024 (EDT) | |||
== Does the Roll Cancel exist? == | |||
I tried to do a Roll Cancel, but there seems to not be any kind of visual indicator or unique effect. Mechanics relating to ending a roll quickly aren't listed on Roll. This page's controls section is based heavily on the Prima guide, but the official excerpt includes the control scheme and does not have an entry for Roll Cancel. Can Mario cancel a roll at will (therefore being better at Spin Dashing than Sonic the Hedgehog) or is the Roll Cancel just a pipe dream? [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 06:14, December 23, 2024 (EST) | |||
Ah. I misread the instruction. I was pressing A and B and then when that didn't work I pressed X and Y. It works by pressing A and X or B and Y. (Or perhaps A and Y or B and X if you're a rebel) This is one of those oddballs isn't it. The "roll cancel" is just cancelling a Roll into a Cap Throw, so it doesn't even have it's own animation. On the other hand, no other combination of inputs can work this way, since A causes Long Jump and X makes the roll go faster. And it isn't just canceling the Long Jump with a Cap Throw because Long Jumps are accompanied by Mario's hollers, which aren't heard with this input. Roll Cancel stands, though maybe we can change the name to "Cancel a roll" so it is less name-like? [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 11:15, December 23, 2024 (EST) | |||
I think that this is a case where I would sacrifice specificity for clarity. "press {{button|switch|y}} or {{button|switch|x}} and {{button|switch|b}} or {{button|switch|a}} at the same time" is really hard to parse, even if its right. I'd try "press one button from both pairs of face buttons at the same time" [[User:Salmancer|Salmancer]] ([[User talk:Salmancer|talk]]) 11:22, December 23, 2024 (EST) | |||