Talk:Croctopus

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Croctopus?

Is this the same octopus thats encountered in Banjo-Tooie in Jolly Roger Lagoon? WarioLoaf (talk)

I've seen a screenshot of that octopus and the two do look similar, I'll try and find the picture. -- Sir Grodus

Found the picture! So what do you guys think? The same or different? -- Sir Grodus

Same. It's Croctopus. Paper Jorge

Okay, can someone who knows what that Croctopus is doing in Jolly Roger's Lagoon add it to the article. -- Sir Grodus

Obviously a resting spot for TWO croctopuses. WarioLoaf (talk)

Since I know...

Well he is trying to block Banjo from passing. he is in a large room. He will move his tentacles up and down. Banjo has to swim and avoid.

Also there are about three or two in that level. Paper Jorge

What's the official name of this character (and the source)? We can't just assume it's a Croctopus. -- Son of Suns

I think the Banjo-Tooie octopi might not have a name, Rare got kind of lax in naming things in the N64 age, as evidenced by the boatload of unamed characters from Donkey Kong 64. I don't think a Croctopus appearing in Banjo-Tooie is that farfetched, a Gnawty does, afterall, also appear in the game. -- Sir Grodus

We can put it in trivia and say "a creature that looks alot like a croctopus is in......... " sorta thing. WarioLoaf (talk)

I agree with WarioLoaf. We should indicate it is most likely a Croctopus, but that it could be an unrelated species. -- Son of Suns

• It'll stay that way till it can be officially proven, though its unlikely Rare would make a second species of Octopi WarioLoaf (talk)

Meh, I just stuck it in the trivia section, feel free to do what you want now. -- Sir Grodus

P.S. The website I got that image from, Dkvine.com even has a joke caption for the picture, "The return of Croctopus!".

Croctopi?

Is there any evidence for the plural form "Croctopi"? Time Questions 10:14, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Well, -us is a common ending in Latin, and it's plural form is -i, so I'd say "Croctopi" is correct. - Gabumon^(talk) 01:03, 28 September 2009 (EDT)

Croctopuses make little sense grammatically, so I assume Croctopi is the correct plural form. Since there really isn't any evidence for what the correct plural form is, let's just go with the grammatically correct term.--Knife (talk) 15:13, 29 December 2009 (EST)

"Croctopuses" does make sense: according to Wiktionary, "octopuses" is the most common plural form of "octopus" (other forms are "octopi" and "octopodes"). Also, there are two different -us endings in Latin, only one of which has the plural form -i (it's not the "octop-us" one). Time Questions 08:34, 30 December 2009 (EST)

(other forms are "octopi" and "octopodes")

"Octopi" is still among the correct forms, so there's no problem. - Gabumon^(talk) 08:48, 30 December 2009 (EST)

According to Donkey Kong Country (1), the correct plural form for croctopus is croctopus; the plural is the same as the singular. This is shown when Funky's challenge is to catch fifteen croctupus(Funky's fishing, which is only in Game Boy versions of DKC) in the Monkey Mines area. Also, the name of the level in the Gorilla Glacier area is "Croctopus Chase" not "Croctopi Chase." --The Retro Gamer (talk) 09:09, 16 June 2014 (EDT)

The correct forms of plural are "octopuses" and "octopodes," as it is a Greek word, not a Latin word. Therefore, "octopi" is outright incorrect, regardless of how common it is used. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2017 (CT)

Many English dictionaries accept "octopuses", "octopi", and "octopodes" as acceptable plural terms. -pi may not be a correct suffix in Greek, but it is in English. And since this is an English wiki, it is acceptable. See the Wiktionary link Gabumon (talk) linked to above. 18:21, 16 May 2017 (EDT)

Language is ever-changing and ever-adapting. It doesn't matter how the word was used some few thousand years ago; octopi is commonly used today, so it's perfectly acceptable. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:32, 16 May 2017 (EDT)

It looks highly unprofessional, and as the Oxford Dictionary site points out here (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/explore/what-are-the-plurals-of-octopus-hippopotamus-syllabus), it is also grammatically incorrect in English, not just Greek. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:10, 16 May 2017 (CT)

Time Turner's argument is just an argumentum ad populum. Just because the usage of "octopi" is common doesn't necessarily make it correct. The "language is changing" excuse is not an escape hatch to misuse terminology. Ray Trace^(T|C) 19:13, 16 May 2017 (EDT)

Also, there's this chart I found on Writing Explained.

"Octopuses" is far more accepted than "octopi". Ray Trace^(T|C) 19:20, 16 May 2017 (EDT)

Yes, but "octopi" is hardly uncommon, either. At some point in the future, perhaps "octopi" will overtake "octopuses", just as "today" was once "to day", just as "alright" has taken a place alongside "all right". Hello, I'm Time Turner. 19:25, 16 May 2017 (EDT)

Turner, you're just grasping at straws at this point. The "maybe it will be in the future" argument makes absolutely no sense. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:27, 16 May 2017 (CT)

So, I think it's safe to say we can put the [sic] back in the page quote. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2017 (CT)

Considering that "octopi" is in literally every dictionary, putting [sic] in the quote is factually incorrect. Not liking a word doesn't make it less of a word. Niiue (talk) 23:09, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

I don't think the [sic] is needed for the "Crotopi" quote, as the Inkling Girl trophy in Smash Bros. uses it as a pun and they occasionally misuse terminology in their trophies and official descriptions, but as an encyclopedia, we should stick to "octopuses" when describing them. Ray Trace^(T|C) 23:43, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

Yeah, if -pi is used in quotes, we should leave it alone, though we should try to use -puses or -podes whenever we can in actual articles. 00:40, 18 May 2017 (EDT)

I don't really agree with -podes, though. I think we should just follow what the scientists say, which is referring to them as "octopuses". Ray Trace^(T|C) 01:33, 18 May 2017 (EDT)

"Not liking a word doesn't make it any less of a word." No, but the link to Oxford Dictionary.com I posted up there makes it not a word. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:37, 18 May 2017 (CT)

Technically, it is a word. An informal word, but a word nonetheless. Niiue (talk) 03:35, 18 May 2017 (EDT)

Alright, just don't accuse me of things like that, please. Now, I suppose there's no problem keeping a slang word in a quote without a [sic], so I'll just leave the issue be. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 03:41, 18 May 2017 (CT)