Talk:Koopa Cruiser crew
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Doesn't the creation of this article need a proposal to override this old one? LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:38, November 26, 2023 (EST)
- It respects the previous discussion linked, it now properly distinguishes the Koopa Cruiser crew as a subset within the overall Bowser Baddies. The previous Bowser Baddies split suggestion had erroneously applied the name to the subset crew, when Bowser Baddies is synonymous with the Koopa Corps/Koopa Troop.Boddle (talk) 20:51, November 26, 2023 (EST)
- The old proposal specifically refers to the aviator-geared Koopa Troopa crewmembers (this was before the remake, where they're normal Koopa Troopas and thus support the no-split suggestion). LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:52, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- The old proposal to split "Bowser Baddies" concluded with Bowser Baddies referring to the overall Koopa Troop in translation, which this page does not conflict with. Furthermore, most appearances including Partners in Time have aviator-gear and we go off of official depictions rather than assuming canonicity. They are officially specified as its "crew" and now found to also be specified as its "personnel”. Boddle (talk) 08:50, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- It seems kind of redundant with the overall articles for the Cruiser and for Troopas. The gear was always a stylistic choice, like how the trace-walking Troopas in Odyssey all wear funny hats. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:58, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- The distinction is that the Cruiser and its crew are officially described as its "crew" and "personnel" regardless of clothing, whereas the trace-walking Troopas seem to have no official descriptions specifying them. Boddle (talk) 11:24, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- I don't think this article really needs to exist. It's just describing what's effectively a sub-faction in the Koopa Troop and the only difference is that they wear aviator clothes in the original version. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 13:12, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- I agree, anything worth saying here can easily be said instead in the Koopa Cruiser, Koopa Troopa, Goomba articles. Blinker (talk) 13:20, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- Can what's said in Deep Cuts Toad or Mushroom Shop Clerk be easily said in the general Toad article as well? I thought conjecture articles exist for officially described content that do not (yet) have proper names with capitalization. The crew has more notability through recurrence, story, and gameplay, than those two aforementioned Toad conjectures. Boddle (talk) 13:28, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- They're in Partners in Time too. If the recurring sub-faction is described in official material, why can't it stand? It has more reference than other conjecture articles such as Deep Cuts Toad, a purple Toad. Or Mushroom Shop Clerk, a tall Toad with a orange-striped vest and black shirt. Boddle (talk) 13:28, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- I agree, anything worth saying here can easily be said instead in the Koopa Cruiser, Koopa Troopa, Goomba articles. Blinker (talk) 13:20, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- I don't think this article really needs to exist. It's just describing what's effectively a sub-faction in the Koopa Troop and the only difference is that they wear aviator clothes in the original version. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 13:12, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- The distinction is that the Cruiser and its crew are officially described as its "crew" and "personnel" regardless of clothing, whereas the trace-walking Troopas seem to have no official descriptions specifying them. Boddle (talk) 11:24, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- It seems kind of redundant with the overall articles for the Cruiser and for Troopas. The gear was always a stylistic choice, like how the trace-walking Troopas in Odyssey all wear funny hats. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 10:58, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- The old proposal to split "Bowser Baddies" concluded with Bowser Baddies referring to the overall Koopa Troop in translation, which this page does not conflict with. Furthermore, most appearances including Partners in Time have aviator-gear and we go off of official depictions rather than assuming canonicity. They are officially specified as its "crew" and now found to also be specified as its "personnel”. Boddle (talk) 08:50, November 27, 2023 (EST)
- The old proposal specifically refers to the aviator-geared Koopa Troopa crewmembers (this was before the remake, where they're normal Koopa Troopas and thus support the no-split suggestion). LinkTheLefty (talk) 07:52, November 27, 2023 (EST)
