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Pokémon

Poké Ball Pokémon

Image	Character	SSB	SSBM	SSBB	SSB4	SSBU	Description
	Abomasnow						Abomasnow attacks by using Blizzard, releasing a blast of freezing wind around itself that draws opponents towards it and deals minor damage, then charges across the arena with Ice Punch, attacking the nearest opponent with a punch that freezes them in its path and deals severe damage if it hits.
	Arceus						Arceus creates a pulse of Gravity, a circular shockwave that smashes opponents downward if they are in the air, though it deals no damage.
File:Articuno.PNG	Articuno						Articuno releases a continuous wave of ice from its body using Icy Wind, which freezes anyone close to it and deals moderate damage. This also launches them up, occasionally far enough off the screen for a KO.
File:Beedrill.PNG	Beedrill						Beedrill attacks by using Take Down, which involves a single Beedrill flying off the stage, followed by a swarm of Beedrill flying horizontally through the stage and damaging anyone who comes into contact with them.
	Bellossom						Bellossom uses Sweet Scent to put any nearby opponents to sleep.
File:Blastoise.PNG	Blastoise						Blastoise attacks with Hydro Pump, which has it firing blasts of water from the cannons on its shoulders that push away opponents. Despite not appearing as a Poké Ball Pokémon, it appears as a trophy in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U, whereas a Mega Blastoise trophy appears in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. According to a datamine, Blastoise was meant to be playable in the Pokémon Trainer's trio, but it was replaced by Squirtle to balance the size and evolutionary stages of the Pokémon.
	Bonsly						Bonsly acts like an item; it can be picked up and carried around like an item - although it is very heavy, and can only be carried around with ease when held by strong characters. When tossed, it doesn't go far, but it can deal damage exceeding 30%, and knockback comparable to a Home-Run Bat. It can be deflected, or used by players who did not summon it. After being thrown about three times, it disappears, or disappear after being unused for some time.
File:BrawlCelebi.jpg	Celebi						In Super Smash Bros. Melee, Celebi can only appear if every character and stage has been unlocked, every event has been cleared, and the score display has been unlocked. It has a one in 251 chance of appearing, and if it does the player earns an extra 8,000 points at the end of the match. In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Celebi can appear at any point without needing to unlock it, and when it appears it drops a trophy before flying away; in this game it has a one in 493 chance of appearing.
File:Chansey.PNG	Chancey						Chancey uses its signature move Soft-Boiled, in which it drops eggs that can either contain items, heal the player, or explode. It also appears in Saffron City, where it can heal the player if they touch it (although its eggs no longer heal), and as one of the floats on the Poké Floats stage.
File:Charizard.PNG	Charizard						Charizard attacks by turning from side to side while using Flamethrower. In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Charizard became a playable fighter, both as a part of the Pokémon Trainer and (only in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U) as an individual.
	Chespin						Chespin attacks by using Seed Bomb, releasing explosive seeds from its body. These moderately damage any opponents who are caught in the blast.
	Chikorita						Chikorita attacks using Razor Leaf, flinging leaf blades at opponents to damage them. In Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U, Chikorita is replaced by Snivy, which also attacks using Razor Leaf. It also appears as one of the Poké Floats floats.
	Clefairy						Clefairy attacks by using Metronone In Super Smash Bros., this move involves copying and using the move of any other Poké Ball Pokémon at random. In Super Smash Bros. Melee, Clefairy uses one of several attacks at random that cause various effects, including: Explosion, which hits any opponents caught in the blast; Blizzard, which freezes any nearby opponents; Fire Spin, which creates a horizontal blast of fire that damages opponents; and Whirlwind, which traps opponents in a whirlwind and damages them.
File:Cyndaquil.PNG	Cyndaquil						Cyndaquil attacks by using Flamethrower, which involves it jumping up and releasing a small blast of fire from its back; the effect is similar to Charizard, but only in one direction. This deals constant weak damage to any opponent caught in it. Cyndaquil is one of the few Pokémon in Super Smash Bros. Melee that can be knocked off the stage.
	Darkrai						Darkrai attacks by using its signature move Dark Void, creating a large dark sphere around itself that puts any opponent that enters it to sleep and deals minor damage to them.
	Dedenne						Dedenne attacks by using Discharge, which involves it hovering in the air and releasing electricity that rotates in four beams around it. The electricity hits opponents multiple times, and the final burst does medium knockback.
	Deoxys						Deoxys appears in its Attack Forme and attacks by using Hyper Beam, which involves it floating into the air (smashing any opponent it touches as it does so) and firing a giant laser beam, dealing large damage and huge knock to anyone that it comes into contact with.
	Eevee						Eevee uses Take Down to slam itself into nearby opponents, making them take below average damage. Eevee does nothing if no opponents are nearby.
	Electrode						Electrode uses Explosion to damage any fighters in its blast radius, including the player that summons it. Electrode can also be picked up and thrown like an item just before it explodes. Starting with Super Smash Bros. Brawl, it may occasionally be a dud, failing to explode after having charged up for a few seconds, but exploding immediately after. In Super Smash Bros., Electrode does not appear as a Poké Ball Pokémon, but instead as a
	Entei						Entei uses Fire Spin (Fire Blast in Super Smash Bros. Melee) to create a large pillar of flame around itself that damages opponents.
	Fennekin						Fennekin spits a fireball in front of it that creates a pillar of fire. If the fire hits an opponent, they become stunned and continuously take damage until the fire disappears.
	Fletchling						Fletchling attacks by using Peck, which involves it hopping across the stage and pecking any nearby opponents, dealing weak damage and knockback. It can fly back to the stage if it falls off.
	Gardevoir						Gardevoir uses Reflect to create a large circular barrier around itself and wanders around the battlefield. Despite being harmless, the shield can deflect projectiles back at the foes, although it does not affect those who summoned Gardevoir.
	Genesect						Genesect attacks by using its signature move Techno Blast, which involves it firing four small laser bursts before following it up with a large, continuous beam. The beam is significantly stronger than the bursts, and both attacks can pass through walls.
	Giratina						Giratina attacks by using Dragon Breath, blowing a horizontal vortex that shoots across the entire stage, repeatedly dealing weak damage while stuck in the whirlwind. Coming in contact with Giratina deals slightly stronger damage with knockback.
	Gogoat						Gogoat attacks using Take Down, represented as charging from one side of the stage to the other and ramming any opponents in its path. Anyone, whether its summoner or other fighters, can jump on top of it and attack from it as it is moving. If it runs into a wall, it becomes momentarily stunned.
	Goldeen						Goldeen uses Splash, flailing around in one area with no effect on the battlefield. In the Pokémon franchise, Goldeen is actually unable to learn Splash, which is a move more commonly associated with Magikarp. Goldeen is the only non-legendary that can be rarely summoned from a Master Ball in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U.
	Groudon						Groudon attacks by using Overheat; after being summoned, it exerts a glowing aura around it, knocking back opponents and dealing light damage to them. Groudon's size prevents opponents from easily avoiding it, and it can occasionally turn to the other side of the stage.
	Gulpin						Gulpin sits stationary where it is released. If an opponent gets close, Gulpin Swallows them, causing damage as long as they are inside. Others can damage whoever is swallowed, but eventually Gulpin spits out the opponent and disappear.

Proposals

Remove categories and lists relating to allies

Before going into the meat of the proposal, the issues of allies has been discussed in the past here, here, and here. Less bulldozer-y approaches have been suggested, but to be frank, none of them are particularly satisfactory for me.

Simply put, I don't see the justification in having the List of allies and the various categories (Donkey Kong, Super Paper Mario, Wario, Yoshi, and of course the main Allies). First, take into consideration the basic categories of the wiki: characters, enemies, items, levels, abilities, and so on. All of them are distinct from each other, and in turn, there should be no overlap between them. Measures have been taken to ensure this, with one proposal ensuring that species occupy a separate space and another proposal that split items and objects. Now, take a look at the list of main categories outlined on MarioWiki:Categories, and you'll notice that "allies" are also listed up there. This ends up colliding into the same issue faced by the items and objects: how can a category be considered the broadest category possible when, by definition as a subcategory, there exists something above it? All allies are necessarily either characters or species, so as is, there's an uncomfortable contradiction here. You might say that this is grounds to remove the allies from that list, but not to outright delete it, and I might have agreed if I didn't have other issues with the allies.

This is something that partially builds on the deletion of Category:Heroes: we don't have a definition for an ally in the slightest. List of allies says that it includes everyone that has "at one point or another stood against the various enemies", but that's unhelpfully vague and entirely inapplicable to situations in which there aren't any enemies involved. You might have a sketchy idea of which characters are and are not allies, but that idea almost certainly goes counter to everyone else's idea. Even then, our current implementation of the term "ally" is shaky at best and nonsensical at worst. To use the Yoshi Allies category as an example, all of the playable characters are listed as allies. The actual people going on the adventure and doing all of the action are merely allies. If they're considered as allies because they help each other, is Mario an ally in every game he's in just because people help him? I could go on in this fashion: why is King Fret an ally when he's nothing more than a hostage, why is KP Pete an ally when he, at best, acts friendly with Mario and nothing more, why is Fire Mini Mario an ally when it's a form of the main playable character, why is Mad Scienstein an ally when most of his encounters feature him as a villain and he is only helpful to the player on a few occasions by happenstance (and not by his own volition, no less)? That last point also touches on another issue, with many of these completely varied characters and species being grouped together because of, at best, one of their actions, and these actions can vary wildly. Characters who act as nothing but roadblocks to the heroes for the vast majority of their appearances, such as Bowser Jr., get to be tagged as allies because of a single instance of helpfulness, and that just doesn't make sense to me (as an aside, I can't even tell where Bowser Jr. acts as an ally). There are echoes of Category:Hostages in this: offbeat, tenuous connections are of little functional use to the wiki.

The idea of allies for the wiki is such a messy, ambiguous, easily muddled grouping that I don't think that any possible solution beyond nuking the entire concept of allies would be satisfactory. Even if somehow, the community came together and unanimously decided on a rigorous definition for allies, what then? What value is there in grouping together characters and species with an arbitrary definition? What do I get from this that I don't get from other categories? What reason do I have to care about the fact that this one NPC gave Mario a couple of coins one time, especially to the point where it elevates them to a unique category? I'll be just as redundant as the allies and say that there's no point in having them on the wiki.

Proposer: Time Turner (talk)
Deadline: [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "August 8, 2011, 23:59 GMT"]

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World 1

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  Up and Over

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  Wall-Kicking It Underground

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  Paratroopas in Mushroom Valley

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  Bowser's Castle Hangout

World 2

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  Ghost-Door Deception

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  Sky-High Lifts and Leaps!

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  Treasure-Hoarding Swoops

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  Airship Cannons...Fire!

World 3

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  Big Spiny Blitz

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  Bullet Bill Barrage

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  Shell Me the Way!

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  Fire Bar Castle! Youch!

World 4

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  Cutting-Edge Spire

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  Slope to Success

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  Danger High and Low

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  Firing the Airship's Burners

World 5

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  Lakitu's Revenge

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  Pokey Vaulting

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  Boohind Lock and Key

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  Rings of Fire!

World 6

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  Land of Spikes

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  Switch Ghost House

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  Throwing It All Overboard

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  Bowser's Bob-ombing Run

DKC:TF

Hazards

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  Carnivorous Plantlife

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  Collapsible Wooden Platform

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  Decaying Vine

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  Electrified Anemone

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  Fire Floor

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  Flaming Falling Totem Pole

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  Flaming Vine

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  Giant Spiked Nut

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  Giant Underwater Fan

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  Hanging TNT

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  Lightning Bolt

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  Proximity Mine

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  Spiked Floor

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  Tornado

• Carnivorous Plantlife: "The local plantlife in Donkey Kong Country is aggressive, to put it plainly. These angry fellows are much like the tooth-toting carnivorous plants that sport platforms at their base. The main difference here is that these hungry plants do not help you access routes or gain entry to secret areas. They pretty much just want to devour your entire body whole."
• Collapsible Wooden Platforms: "These wood-plank platforms start to shiver and shake the second you step your hairy foot upon them. Be sure to take care of your business and make haste before the planks give way and you fall to your doom."
• Decaying Vines: "These vines at first sight can blend in with the regular structurally sound vines. At a closer look, they can be identified by the brown discoloring at the top of the vine. When you grab onto these vines, you will only have a limited time before they break under your intense weight. This is a grab-and-go situation, so grab hold of the vine and jump to the next before the old vine makes fools of the lot of you."
• Electrified Anemones: "While they look beautiful in the dark of the ocean, these will shock DK to the core. They hold items beneath them, and at first glance, you may not know how to defeat these anemones. Close by are smaller fish that will glow if you Corkscrew through their school, which will cause the anemone arms to retract finally allow you to access the items below."
• Fire Floor: "These fire floors can be identified by the hot coals burning just below the surface. The real danger is standing in one spot for too long, as that agitates the earth, allowing flames to come to the surface that will most certainly burn you. Usually there are Water Sacks around; throw them at the ground to extinguish the flames and create a much more safer walkway. "
• Flaming Falling Totem Poles: "These totem poles are intent on crushing the bananas out of you. They have a flaming core with fire that flickers out from the eye and mouth holes. Besides adding to the incredible tension, these are another hazard to keep you on your toes. Quickly jump back or roll forward to avoid a crushing defeat."
• Flaming Vines: "These vines look like the decaying vines, but they will immediately ignite and burn up rather quickly. Other vines will already be on fire when you approach. Extinguish them before climbing. These vines can also be connected to platforms, making it much simpler to quickly jump to safety. Remember to act swiftly and be light on your feet!"
• Giant Spiked Nuts: "A form of this type of hazard is introduced in the third island and will become a headache-inducing nuisance. These large spiked nuts drop from trees and roll towards you, with the intention of filling you full of holes. They cannot be destroyed by any means, so leap over the obstacles and continue on your way as best you can."
• Giant Underwater Fans: "The giant fans certainly make traversing through underwater levels difficult. In some instances, the current they produce is too powerful to Kong to swim through on his own. Grab Dixie Kong if you can and use her Ponytail Propeller move to easily pass through the strong currents."
• Hanging TNT: "This is quite simple really. Touch the dangling cluster of concentrated destruction to go BOOM! Avoid the dangling destruction and live to tell the tale."
• Lightning Bolts: "When you encounter lightning bolts, they may give you a hard time at first, but they can be avoided quite easily if you follow the pattern. Before the real shock comes from the main bolt, several lesser bolts will strike in quick succession; they are harmless. Use that time to run or roll past the strike zone before the actual bolt rains down on your parade."
• Proximity Mines: "The mines underwater pack a punch and will begin to time their detonation the closer you get. Some secret areas must be opened by the mines, so you may need to carefully draw near one to time the charge, then quickly swim away before it explodes. Remember that these mines eject pieces of shrapnel that will take a heart away if they come in contact with you, so be careful!"
• Spiked Floor: "Spiked floors can be a real pain in the buttocks—literally. The best way to traverse this hazard is to bring old man Cranky Kong along with you and pogo across the spikes with his cane. This will also help you access the items lying on the spikes and to get to hidden areas to collect Puzzle Pieces."
• Tornados: "These wind tunnels can either help or hinder your path to the end of the level. At times these tornados can launch you upward to access certain items, but get too close to an edge and the wonder of nature might just launch you like a rag doll. Tip: The trick to using the tornado to spring you forward is to jump into it at the very top of the funnel. Jumping into the lowest portion or the middle causes it to shoot you backward and possibly straight into harm’s way."