Editing Template talk:Game infobox

==Adding "sales" to infobox==
I think it would be a good idea to add global or regional sales of a game to this infobox. It's use would be optional, but it would be good because not all articles have sales infomation. Does anyone agree?

{{User:YoshiKong/sig}}

:Make a TTP if you feel it is necessary [[User:Pokémon Trainer Red|PTR (trivialWarlord)]]
::I think sales should go in the reception section/the opening paragraph like on ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]'' personally. {{User|Raven Effect}}

==TTP (adding sales in the infobox)==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|failed|1-10|Don't add sales}}
Hi everyone! I'm proposing to add 'sales' as a parameter to the {{tem|game infobox}} template. As I said above, it would be necessary because often this information is overlooked, and if it was added to the infobox, it would push users to fill it. Responding to a comment above, yes, the info can go elsewhere on an article, but wouldn't it be better to collect it in the infobox? 

'''Proposer:''' {{User|YoshiKong}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' June 21, 2012, 23:59 GMT

===Support (add parameter)===
#{{User|YoshiKong}} Per my proposal.

===Oppose (leave infobox as it is)===
#{{User|Walkazo}} - I feel like it'd be better to use sales as a way to try and motivate users to create full-on Reception sections: it's an easy jumping-off point, onto which more in-depth info can be added. Sales also need explanations a lot of the time, especially if there's more than one region, and that'd better suited to paragraph form, rather than just sticking the numbers in an infobox.
#{{User|Zero777}} Per Walkazo. Video games are not like movies, where the movie company gain money only at the first few weeks at the box office and then after that its the theatre's money, no, they continue to garner money.
#{{User|Bop1996}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|Raven Effect}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|Commander Code-8}} The amount of sales for a game is something that needs an explanation,e.g. why [[Super Mario RPG]] didn't have a huge amount of sales despite being well-reviewed is something that warrants it's on explanation, putting a simple number in the infobox won't do much.
#{{User|Mario4Ever}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|MarioSmasher}} I cannot explain my total disappointment about this. We cannot treat games like movies!
#{{User|Vommack}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|Jazama}} Per all
#{{User|Fawfulfury65}} Per Walkazo.

===Comments===
Thank you to everyone for giving their honest opinions. In retrospect, my proposal does seem like quite a questionable idea. --{{User|YoshiKong}}
:Does that mean we can close up shop on this one early? {{User|Vommack}}

== Pre-"release" releases ==

While Nintendo haven't gone anywhere near as hard on public betas and "Early Access" as a lot of other companies, it's not unheard of - the [[Mario Tennis Aces]] tournament/demo right now being a perfect example. Shouldn't we reflect that with an appropriate variable for this? - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 17:34, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
:I agree with this. We already do sorta cover demos with the [[Mario_%26_Sonic_at_the_Rio_2016_Olympic_Games_(Wii_U)#Demo|Mario & Sonic Rio demo]], but more coverage on demos in general is always appreciated. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 17:47, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
::We could group the demo release with the final release in the Release date variable. I don't see why not. {{User:Alex95/sig}} 22:15, 3 June 2018 (EDT)
:::Honestly? The release variable is already overloaded as it is. There should probably be a separate - and '''collapsed by default'''! - variable for re-release dates, with the main "Release date" just for the ''first'' releases in any given territory. (I can't emphasise "collapsed by default" enough for that part) - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:19, 4 June 2018 (EDT)

== Request ==

Can we have a part like
*|-  predecessor=
*|-Successor=
*Maybe? It would help!  [[User:HEROMARIO|&#91;-&#93;€40 分@4¡0]] ([[User talk:HEROMARIO|talk]]) 09:31, April 12, 2019 (EDT)

:Hello!?  {{User:HEROMARIO/sig}} 14:11, May 11, 2019 (EDT)
::Old, but I think it can work. {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 18:24, September 22, 2020 (EDT)
==Game-Infobox==
Why isn't this called {{fake link|Template: Game-infobox}} and make this page a disambig page for infobox templates. <s>The only reason I'm bringing this up is because of [[Template:SMS|this]].</s> {{User:DarkNight/sig}} 18:24, September 22, 2020 (EDT)

== Add a section listing languages the game is available in to the infobox ==
{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|7-3|add section}}
I think this would be useful as sometimes this info is hard to come by (and the translation section at the bottom of the page often isn't indicative of what languages the game is offered in as game titles are usually left untranslated) 

'''Proposer''': {{User|Zachruff}}<br>
'''Deadline''': February 26, 2022, 23:59 GMT

====Support====
#{{User|Hewer}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Superstarxalien169}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Zachruff}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Somethingone}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Atlas}} Per proposal.
#{{User|RHG1951}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Ray Trace}} This would be immensely helpful for trying to figure out if X game has, say, a Russian localization, and that we need to document names onto the wiki.

====Oppose====
#{{User|WildWario}} How would we add these in the infobox? If we do add them, the infobox might become too long due to some games being available in too many languages. 
#{{User|DannyTheDingo}} Per above.
#{{User|LinkTheLefty}} I can see a boxart region toggle, but listing every language might be a bit much for the infobox. I think it would be better to have the names in other languages section expanded to cover languages that share the English title, which we already do for some articles. Plus, what about cases where the game itself is released in another territory, but not another language? There's technically no "Japanese" version of a lot of earlier games, after all, not to mention non-English European releases can be murky.

====Comments====
This feels important enough to include, but not for the infobox. Perhaps a bulleted list of all known language releases within or below the "Names in other languages" section? However, I can see how that could sometimes be made redundant by the infobox's pre-existing area for regional releases. {{User:DannyTheDingo/sig}} 05:57, February 12, 2022 (EST)

Re: {{User|WildWario}} I mean we already have the list of release date in every single region which would take up the same amount of space. Could we also not have lists in the infobox be collapseable if people think they are getting too long? [[User:Zachruff|Zachruff]] ([[User talk:Zachruff|talk]]) 08:52, February 12, 2022 (EST)

Re: {{User|LinkTheLefty}} I think you are confused, we already have a list of which territories the game was released in and when, but just because a game released in a territory doesn't mean it was localized to that places languages. (i.e. Nintendo has official releases in South Africa yet does not localize them into any of SA's many official languages). Additionally, like I said before, game titles and box arts often are left in English, and there are also boxarts made for regions that arent localized either (Middle East for example). finally, even the official Nintendo website feels that its important enough to list all supported languages so I don't see why it wouldn't be important enough here too when we have much more obscure things like the media type. [[User:Zachruff|Zachruff]] ([[User talk:Zachruff|talk]]) 11:08, February 20, 2022 (EST)

== Add the product IDs in the infobox ==

{{Settled TPP}}
{{Proposal outcome|passed|4-0}}
The serial codes are listed in the infobox. We can check it through the back of the boxart. In handheld games, it usually listed on the front cover. Also Japanese Nintendo website redirects its serial code as a page.

Example:
*[[Super Mario 64 DS]]: NTR-ASMJ-JPN [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/asmj/index.html]
*[[New Super Mario Bros.]]: NTR-A2DJ-JPN [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/a2dj/index.html]

'''Proposer''': [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]])<br>
'''Deadline''': March 11, 2023, 23:59 GMT

=====Support=====
#{{User|Spectrogram}} Per proposal.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} Per proposal & Spectrogram.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per proposal.
#{{User|1468z}} Per proposal.

=====Oppose=====
=====Comments=====
Does this proposal account for the fact that product IDs often differ [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/920758-super-mario-64-ds/data by] [https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ds/920787-new-super-mario-bros/data region]? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:00, March 16, 2023 (EDT)
:It probably does. I suggest you ask {{User|Windy}} himself. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 12:57, March 16, 2023 (CST)
::The serials are included by region, like rating. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 20:58, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

== Bug in languages template ==

<s>I mentioned this before in [[Template talk:Languages]] but no one seems to have noticed. If there is no American English version available, the template will leave a blank space above the next language. This can be seen in ''[[Kaettekita Mario Bros.]]'' and ''[[Yakuman DS]]''.</s>--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 23:56, April 1, 2023 (EDT)
:It's now fixed!--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 00:34, April 2, 2023 (EDT)

== Post-proposal discussion (re: product IDs) ==

So how are we supposed to put the product IDs into the infoboxes? Do we need to create a new parameter, or...? [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 21:02, February 17, 2024 (EST)<br/>
:Edit: Already been created, thanks Steve! [[User:Power Flotzo|Power Flotzo]] ([[User talk:Power Flotzo|talk]]) 17:07, February 19, 2024 (EST)
::The template hasn't been created yet. It depends on the regions. [[User:Windy|Windy]] ([[User talk:Windy|talk]]) 20:34, April 24, 2024 (EDT)

== Retitle to "Software infobox" ==

{{talk}}
Can this be retitled to "Software infobox"? A point was raised on the [[Talk:I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater|I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater]] talk page about said media being software and not an actual game. But what still remains is that said template is already in use on [[I am a teacher: Super Mario Sweater|said page]] and other software, including even applications like ''[[Mario Clock]]'', despite not truly counting as "games." Would it be okay if this template is renamed to "software infobox"? This is more inclusive of broader instances of ''Super Mario'' media. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 19:50, May 31, 2024 (EDT)

==Box art galleries==
Since the text "For alternate box art, see the game's gallery." directs straight to the article's "Gallery:" equivalent, some of them like ''Pinball'' and ''Mario Bros.'' have to redirect from the "(game)" galleries. Is there a way to make the link direct? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 09:32, September 22, 2024 (EDT)
:Seems that did the trick. Thanks. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 22:00, September 22, 2024 (EDT)