MarioWiki:Proposals

Current time: June 23, 2026, 19:39 (UTC)

Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken. Voting periods last for two weeks, but can close early or be extended (see below). Any autoconfirmed user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so. All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options. For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

If you would like to get feedback on an idea before formally proposing it here, you may do so on the proposals talk. For talk page proposals, you can discuss the changes on the talk page itself before creating the TPP there.

How to

If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a detailed description of the proposed changes and may link to a draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.

Rules

1. Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Proposals can be created by one user or co-authored by two users.
2. A given user may author/co-author a maximum of five total ongoing/unimplemented proposals. Any new proposals over this limit will be immediately canceled.
3. Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).
4. Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times UTC).
   • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 (UTC).
5. Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
6. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. "Oppose", "Do nothing") unless the status quo itself violates policy.
7. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available. Keep in mind that we use approval voting, so all of your votes count equally regardless of preferred order.
8. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is acceptable (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
9. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
   • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
10. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
11. If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
    • Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
12. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM". The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
13. If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
14. If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
    • Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
15. Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
16. After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
17. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer should ask for that help. Proposals that result in changes to policy pages or general guidelines must be cited accordingly.
18. All proposals are archived. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived, including their date of cancellation.
19. Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. If a proposer cancels their own proposal, they must provide a reason and wait three days before submitting any new proposal.
    • A proposer cannot cancel their proposal and then implement it anyway. Only wiki staff can cancel a proposal and immediately put it into effect.
20. Proposers can request their proposal be canceled by a wiki staff member after the self-cancellation cutoff, but they must provide a valid reason for doing so. In most cases, the proposal should simply run its course.
21. If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
22. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
23. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and carried out by the bureaucrats.
24. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.

Basic proposal formatting

Copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the proposal deadline will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)

====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.

====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====

====Comments ([brief proposal title])====

Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To vote for an option, just insert #{{user|[your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can simply say "Per proposal".

Poll proposal formatting

As an alternative to the basic proposal format, users may choose to create a poll proposal when one larger issue can be broken down into multiple subissues that can be resolved independently of each other. Poll proposals concerning multiple pages must have good justification for using the poll proposal format rather than individual talk page proposals or else will be canceled (for example, in the case of the princesses poll proposal, there are valid consistency concerns which make it worthwhile to consider these three articles simultaneously, but for routine article size splits, there is no need to abandon using standard TPPs for each).

In a poll proposal, each option is essentially its own mini-proposal with a deadline and suboption headings. A poll proposal can have a maximum of 15 options, and the rules above apply to each option as if it were its own proposal: users may vote on any number of options they wish, and individual options may close early or be extended separately from the rest. If an option fails to achieve quorum or reach a consensus after three extensions, then the status quo wins for that option by default. If all options fail, then nothing will be done.

To create a poll proposal, copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the option deadlines will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]".

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}

====[option title (e.g. Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)

;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.

;Oppose

====[option title (e.g. Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)

;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.

;Oppose

====[option title (e.g. Option 3)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 (UTC)

;Support
#{{user|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.

;Oppose

====Comments ([brief proposal title])====

For the purposes of the ongoing proposals list, a poll proposal's deadline is the latest deadline of any ongoing option(s). A poll proposal is archived after all of its options have settled, and it is listed as one single proposal in the archive. It is considered to have "passed" if one or more options were approved by voters (resulting in a change from the status quo), and it is considered to have "failed" if all options were rejected by voters and no change in the status quo was made.

Talk page proposals

Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's heading, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{ongoing TPP}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, the proposal author(s), and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Deletions

• Delete Manhandla (and potentially most of its images) (discuss) by SuperGamer18; Deadline: July 4, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Moves

• Move Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Flash game), NES Classics (Flash game), and Donkey Konga 2 (Flash game) to have the "(Macromedia Flash game)" identifier (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: July 1, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Merges

None at the moment.

Splits

• Split third-party browser games officially endorsed by Nintendo into their own articles (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: June 30, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
• Split Classic Collection from the tech demo article (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: June 30, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

• Redesign the kart infobox (discuss) by LadySophie17; Deadline: June 23, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
• Make abbreviated redirects to each physical game article (discuss) by Nelsonic; Deadline: June 30, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
• Clarify the rules about unsigned comments (discuss) by Illuminoid; Deadline: July 4, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)
• Reconsider the relations the Baseball Bros, Zeus Guy, and Grunt have with Bandit (discuss) by FanOfYoshi; Deadline: June 29, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)

Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024)

Note: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles.

Use the classic and classic link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024)

Split major RPG appearances of recurring locations, EvieMaybe (ended December 16, 2024)

Note: Implemented for all except Bowser's Inside Story's Bowser's Castle and Kingdom Battle's Peach's Castle

Retool the Names in other languages section into a more general etymology section, EvieMaybe (ended March 7, 2025)

Allow English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia names to be mentioned on articles where they are not the title, Hewer (ended March 27, 2025)

Split every song from the "List of (show) songs" articles (Project portal), Zing Zang Zote (ended May 31, 2025)

Note: Not yet implemented for List of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! songs

Overhaul sponsor pages, Seandwalsh (ended June 26, 2025)

Reorganize recurring theme articles to use history sections (Project portal), Ahemtoday (ended July 2, 2025)

Revamp colorful tables, Camwoodstock (ended August 14, 2025)

Make articles for the licensed songs in The Super Mario Bros. Movie (Project portal), Sargent Deez (ended September 17, 2025)

Note: Article for "Battle Without Honor or Humanity" has not been created yet

Change game quote lists to game scripts, Scrooge200 (ended September 21, 2025)

Create an article for Gourmandise, Sargent Deez (ended October 4, 2025)

Stop using icon-based level names for Super Mario Bros. 3, PopitTart (ended October 21, 2025)

End the use of "new course" and "classic course" as universal definitions within the Mario Kart series, Polley001 (ended January 26, 2026)

Make all release dates use individual flags (if possible), Yoshi18 (ended February 8, 2026)

Have game navboxes and categories cover all music appearances rather than just debuts (Project portal), Ahemtoday (ended February 20, 2026)

Create "recycled assets" sections for asset re-use, and move examples of asset re-use to those sections, Camwoodstock & Yoshi18 (ended March 5, 2026)

Prioritize whole integer upscaling for sprite displays, Scrooge200 (ended March 13, 2026)

Make an article for the New Super Mario Bros. series (Draft page), Yoshi18 & Sargent Deez (ended March 18, 2026)

Establish a consistent format for non-game enemy and obstacle lists, Illuminoid (ended March 22, 2026)

Create articles for Toad Brigade Training Camp and Attraction variations of courses in Super Mario Bros. Wonder – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Meetup in Bellabel Park, Illuminoid (ended April 23, 2026)

Decide how to handle reissues in the History sections of musical theme articles (Project portal), Wilben (ended May 22, 2026)

Settle how to convey shared names across dialects in "Names in other languages" tables, EvieMaybe (ended June 21, 2026)

Talk page proposals

Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)

Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects (Draft page), Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024)

Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run (Draft page), Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024)

Note: Missing Rainbow Bridge, Blue Bonus Game House, and Yellow Bonus Game House articles.

Give the Cluck-A-Pop Prizes articles, Camwoodstock (ended January 31, 2025)

Split the Animal Crossing series (now Crossovers with Animal Crossing) (Draft page), Zing Zang Zote (ended February 12, 2025)

Restructure Yoshi's Island (series) article into Yoshi series, PopitTart (ended March 19, 2025)

Note: Not yet implemented in articles that still use the Yoshi's Island series and still have separate Yoshi's Story, Yoshi's Woolly World, and Yoshi's Crafted World sections

Split Super Luigi subjects into a dedicated list article (Draft page), EvieMaybe (ended April 3, 2025)

Clean up Prohibited Command, PrincessPeachFan (ended May 13, 2025)

Determine which subjects belong in Category:Aliens, Technetium (ended June 14, 2025)

Note: Not yet implemented for Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 subjects.

Split A Magical Tour of Yoshi's Island from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Rykitu (ended July 9, 2025)

Decide how to handle hammer-based moves in Category:Hammers, SolemnStormcloud (ended July 21, 2025)

Treat Pyoro as a series, janMisali (ended September 1, 2025)

Determine whether a Final Smash is one of a fighter's special moves, Salmancer (ended September 13, 2025)

Split Challenge, VS. Game/You VS. Boo, the Album and the Toy Box + its individual toys from Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, Snessy (ended December 23, 2025)

Decide whether to use title case in English meanings of foreign names where applicable when not present in the source language, PaperSplash (ended December 26, 2025)

Treat courses that debuted in Mario Kart Tour and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe as Mario Kart Tour and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe courses respectively, Polterpup (ended January 1, 2026)

Consider "LUCKY" misses from the Paper Mario series to be a game mechanic, Pizza Master (ended January 13, 2026)

Move Wakkiki info to Akiki, FanOfYoshi (ended January 17, 2026)

Determine which clothing and other gear deserves individual articles, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 21, 2026)

Note: Currently split clothing should be merged back

Determine what qualifies as a game (and create appropriate categories in the process), SuperGamer18 (ended February 2, 2026)

Declare Super Smash Bros. - Gameplay & Quest for the amiibo! a guest appearance and delete Jack (Quest for the amiibo!), Salmancer (ended February 22, 2026)

Add music types to track tables (SSBU Sound Test) (Project portal), The Eggo55 (ended February 27, 2026)

Determine whether discontinued media counts as lost media, Pizza Master (ended February 28, 2026)

Make articles for the licensed songs in The Super Mario Galaxy Movie (Project portal), SuperGamer18 (ended April 3, 2026)

Clean up the Mini Boo page, Mr. Sorbetti (ended April 25, 2026)

Create an article for E. Honda, Brett (ended June 15, 2026)

Writing guidelines

Overturn the "Game Scripts" format proposal

Based on the vote so far, this proposal may be eligible to close one week early. Please use {{proposal check|early=yes}} on June 25, 2026 at 23:59 (UTC) and close the proposal if applicable.

The following proposal concerns this proposal from September 21st, 2025. The proposal was created to change the format of media-specific "List of quotes" pages to take the form of transcripts. Since then, after almost 9 months... Uh, literally only one page of progress has been made for implementing this? ...at all? And it's the one that was given as an example in the proposal itself.

Admittedly, it isn't remotely hard to see why; this is a huge change to make! However, additional problems have sprung up since the proposal that makes implementing it even more difficult. Since then, we have implemented a "Not an archive" policy against excessive over-documentation of things that are either better suited for another kind of database, are self-evident from the media itself, are overall insignificant to illustrating a given work, or some combination therein. A full transcript of every last action and every last line of dialogue would, indeed, be a bit excessive. The proposal is a PipeProject-scale endeavor that is presently entirely without a PipeProject, and one of those would likely have to be created with yet another proposal (as, right now, nobody is around to spearhead said operation.)

The smoking gun, however, we feel, comes in the form of, of all things, the List of The Super Mario Galaxy Movie quotes page. That page features two sections, one for individual character quotes (much like the current format), and a second section for "Dialogue", which are transcripts of significant exchanges between characters that would otherwise be difficult to illustrate as individual quotes. This more-or-less solves the same problem the "game scripts" format does, but also entirely avoids each of its caveats; it allows for individualized exchanges to be present when it illustrates a quote better, while not requiring excessive information on the part of the userbase, nor a concerted effort that the userbase is presently uninterested in. Quite literally, it is the best of both worlds.

So... If game script pages are largely obsoleted by both changes to policy, and to developments to quote pages themselves that have happened more-or-less organically... Why should we continue listing this as a proposal to be implemented, when, evidently, nobody actually wants to do that? This proposal is more-or-less just us asking if we actually want to still do this or not.

If we overturn the game scripts proposal, what will happen in practice is relatively straightforward. Hotel Mario script gets merged to List of Hotel Mario quotes as a "Dialogue" section, and we consider the "Dialogue" format to be a valid format on the quotes pages from now on. Should the proposal resolve in the favor of the technical status quo, and we decide to continue with the game script format, we would like to state in advance: we do not wish to, nor intend to, claim responsibility for implementing Game Script pages. We have enough to do ourselves that we cannot take this task on ourselves. This proposal is to re-affirm if this is something we actually want to do, not for us to add onto it in some way.

Proposer: Camwoodstock (talk)
Deadline: July 2, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Overturn the Game Scripts proposal

1. Camwoodstock (talk) Per proposal.
2. Mario (talk) Even without the copyright concerns, I think it's a good thing there's one less obscure practically nonexistent proposal to keep track of when it comes to expanding pages on the wiki. Most people who edit these pages won't know this proposal existed to begin with. The quality of these quote pages are another matter, but it's clear the proposal didn't fix any of the issues.
3. Rykitu (talk) Per all. I forgot this proposal even existed!
4. Nelsonic (talk) I think this could've helped at one point, but it isn't helping much in its current state. Per.
5. List of Maw-Ray Master quotes (talk) Per all.
6. Dive Rocket Launcher (talk) Per all. Though I do think there should be guidelines about what dialogue is significant enough. I'm mainly concerned about RPGs, since even optional conversations in those can be good demonstrations of character personalities and relationships.
7. LadySophie17 (talk) Per proposal. I was not aware of this "Dialogue" section and I feel like it perfectly fixes most of the issues I have with our current quote pages. I am fully in favor of expanding their use to games!
8. Yoshi18 (talk) Per all.
9. EvieMaybe (talk) Per all.

Comments (EXIT, PURSUED BY BEAR)

By the way (and not that it changes much), the "Dialogue format" was already in use on quotes pages for films since 2023, long before that proposal, as seen here and here. Though I think using it on game quotes pages might be a new idea (and one I support, since it can help to convey the dialogue better than just a list of lines removed from their context). Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 14:29, June 18, 2026 (UTC)

I'll add to this even further: dialogues have been featured alongside quotes as early as 2007, as evidenced by this revision on the Cranky Kong page, which remained there until these and other Cranky quotes were split off into its own page since 2014, and are still listed there to this very day. Unsurprisingly, these dialogues are from the cartoon series, which are also dialogue-heavy. rend (talk) (edits) 05:16, June 22, 2026 (UTC)

Removals

None at the moment.

Additions

Create a "NIOL missing" template

I've already been thinking about this for a while, but why has the wiki never had a template for missing NIOLs? When {{todo}} got added, I thought that could solve the problem, but as some have pointed out: that template doesn't really fit for {{todo}}s. If we're gonna tag every article with missing NIOLs as {{todo|section=yes|list=*More languages}}, then half of the articles that use {{todo}} would just be that. That's why I think a NIOL template would be a useful addition. I even made a test template for it (with the source code already built in) to show off my vision here:

This article does not yet have a "Names in other languages" section.

Please help improve this article by adding a "Names in other languages" section with at least one or more of the missing languages with citations from reliable sources.

In case anyone is wondering, I made this test template using {{unreferenced}} as basis, edited it, and mixed it with the "list" parameter from {{todo}} so users have the ability to display exactly which languages are missing. Also, a citation for the name is of course mandatory.

Footnote

Proposer: Yoshi18 (talk)
Deadline: June 26, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Support in other languages

1. Yoshi18 (talk) Per proposal.
2. PaperSplash (talk) I'm willing to support this after the updates made to the proposed template.

Oppose in other languages

1. Camwoodstock (talk) We're primarily an English wiki, for one thing, so while foreign language names are nice to have, we don't personally view them as being necessary... In addition to that, sometimes, those foreign languages just have the same name as English which we don't track (hi, Diddy Kong Racing DS), and sometimes, there just. Aren't foreign language names, for one reason or another. Above all else, we're a little worried this will get mis-used a lot to basically mean "I'm curious what this is called in another language!" and not the actual use-case of "we know there is a foreign language version of this thing, but we don't know what it's called in that thing", and there isn't really anything to actively dis-incentivize that.
2. LadySophie17 (talk) Per Camwoodstock. I am strongly against the inclusion of NIOLs in the to-do system, and if there were an option to outright ban that practice I'd whole-heartedly support it. But if you simply must start tagging every article under the sun with this new template, it should at the very least have very clear and strict requirements, which this proposal does not. it should be a non-negotiable requirement that the editor who placed the template must give exactly which languages they want names added from, and where said names can be found. "Add more names from other languages" is not good enough, "Add French and Dutch names" is not good enough either. "Add French name used in the Super Mario Odyssey French strategy guide, and the Dutch name used in the Dutch localization for Super Mario Run" sounds about good enough for me. To put it simply, if you cannot prove a name for that language exists in the first place, don't ask for it.
3. EvieMaybe (talk) per Camwoodstock and Sophie.
4. Wandering Poplin (talk) Per all.
5. Mario4Ever (talk) I feel like anyone who's aware that NIOLs exist for a game is better off just adding them to the extent they're able rather than applying a template in the hope someone else comes along. If the existence of NIOLs is not apparent, I don't believe a specialized template would incentivize people to check, not to mention that factors beyond their familiarity with a language itself could prevent them from doing so in the first place.

Comments in other languages

Where does this template get placed on an article? Some articles contain multiple names in other languages sections. Also, you forgot to modify the text for hide parameter taken from {{todo}}. I am against category titles using the abbreviation. While "NiOL" is quick to type, the full form communicates the purpose better. --Illuminoid (talk) 00:11, June 13, 2026 (UTC)

Changed the category so it would no longer be an abbreviation. I think this template should be placed in a NIOL section or at the top of the article (if the article doesn't yet have a NIOL section but does need one). Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 12:10, June 13, 2026 (UTC)

@Camwoodstock, I get that this may not be useful for game articles but what about things like minigame articles? The minigame articles for Super Mario Party Jamboree – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV could definitely use this template. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 12:10, June 13, 2026 (UTC)

@LadySophie17, That's a good point (I probably forgot to add that into my proposal, but having good proof of a language that needs to be added is of course mandatory and I gotta admit it was kinda dumb to forget to add that). Though I think you can already know if a name for, say, minigames exist by looking at the languages a game (I'm taking Super Mario Party Jamboree as example here because its Switch 2 Edition minigames miss a lot of languages) available on. Also, just wondering but: imagine if I went to the Nintendo Switch 2 Experience (I actually did in real life, that's where I got the Dutch name of some of Jamboree TV's minigames from (I wrote them up in my Notes app so I wouldn't forget to add them to the wiki some day)) and saw the Dutch names of some minigames but forgot about some of them (I actually did with some like Toad-ally Electric Escape). How (or where) could I find solid proof that these names do exist (if there's for example no video of it on YouTube and Nintendo (of the Netherlands) doesn't list it anywhere)? Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 14:00, June 14, 2026 (UTC)

@Yoshi18 It's not too late for you to rewrite this proposal if you wish to. I actually agree with the underlying idea, but Sophie does make some counterpoints I think are valid as well, and I would be more comfortable supporting this proposal if they were addressed. In addition, I personally think "please improve this by adding at least one language" is the wrong message we should be sending. While I believe I understand the idea behind it (even one additional language would indeed go a long way, and a lot of people have knowledge of only one language at most besides English, after all) it comes off more like giving out an arbitrary quota for names in other languages rather than actually acknowledging the names in other languages that are missing. Of course, this wouldn't be as much of an issue if the actual missing language names were required to be disclosed (preferably along with where they can be found) as you've discussed with Sophie. PaperSplash (talk) 18:30, June 14, 2026 (UTC)

Just wondering but what would you think would be a better message? I thought of something like "adding and sourcing [insert language]" or if there's two "adding and sourcing [insert language], [insert another language] and [insert another language]" (of course with "and" between the first and second language if there's only two). Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 21:48, June 14, 2026 (UTC)

@Yoshi18 I think just "adding the missing languages" is actually fine as long as the languages themselves are specified somewhere (this is what Bulbapedia's existing template for this does, at least). And I agree that mentioning something about sourcing the missing names would go a long way in discouraging people from just adding unsourced NIOLs. Maybe you could borrow further from {{unreferenced}} and just say "with citations from reliable sources"? As for when a NIOL section is missing entirely, perhaps it could say "adding a "Names in other languages" section with one or more of the missing languages" (the key word here is "missing", I think, and the missing languages in question should again be specified), and again, you could put "with citations from reliable sources" after that? PaperSplash (talk) 05:53, June 15, 2026 (UTC)

To the opposition (@Camwoodstock, @LadySophie17, @EvieMaybe and @Wandering Poplin) and @PaperSplash, I updated the template (sorry I didn't do it sooner, I've been very busy the past couple of days). The small template note now notes that you need to have a reliable source to add missing languages. Though I still wonder if "in-game name" counts as this when there is no other source than just looking at it in the game itself. Yoshi18 (talk/contribs) 22:28, June 17, 2026 (UTC)

Create a PipeProject for foreign media and subjects

The image that will be used to represent this PipeProject. (If you have a better one that could be used, please let me know!)

Can you believe this is the third PipeProject creation proposal already? Anyways, this is something I've been thinking about recently. As can be seen in various places, such as to-do lists, red links in nav/infoboxes, etc., I believe we have lackluster coverage of non-English media and subjects on this wiki, especially those that are only officially available in Japanese. What does this PipeProject entail? It includes, but is not limited to:

• Creating articles for media and subjects originating outside of English-speaking countries
• Improving articles about non-English media and subjects with improvement templates (eg {{todo}}, {{image}}, etc.)
• Translating non-English sources into English wherever needed
• Finding non-English sources for articles that need them

Relevant guidelines and other pages

• MarioWiki:Article naming (English and non-English sources section)
• MarioWiki:Japanese
• MarioWiki:Manual of Style (Romanization systems section)
• MarioWiki:Lists of citations (courtesy of Nintendo101)

COVERAGE CLARIFICATIONS: if a piece of media was originally released in a language other than English and then gets an English translation after its original release, it does NOT disqualify it from this PipeProject. However, if the English translation of such media appears before or at the same time as the original, non-English version, then it will not be counted for this PipeProject. Obviously, translations of English media into non-English languages are also out of scope, unless they have significant differences in content. Due to controversies regarding this aspect of coverage, Names in other languages are not in scope for this PipeProject.

With that clarified, I believe this PipeProject will encourage people to cover and improve coverage of international Super Mario media, showing the worldwide nature of its appeal. And finally, here's a list of people who I think can help me with this project (if you would like to contribute to this PipeProject, you are more than welcome to do so!):

• @Mariuigi Khed (manga and Italian media/subjects coverage)
• @EvieMaybe (Spanish media coverage)
• @Mosgis (Japanese media translaton)
• @Maw-Ray Master (obscure non-English media coverage)

Proposer: SuperGamer18 (talk)
Deadline: July 5, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Support: create the PipeProject

1. SuperGamer18 (talk) Per proposal.
2. Yoshi18 (talk) I guess that, with my NIOL template proposal, I'm already kind of supporting this PipeProject. I also do my best with adding or correcting Dutch translations on the wiki, so I'm all in for a PipeProject like this!
3. Camwoodstock (talk) This one, we can get behind. While we don't particularly care as much for Names in Other Languages, documenting the stuff that's exclusive to those Other Languages (even stuff just like the various Manga) is something far more pressing, and also far more deserving of a concerted effort. We figure this aligns with our plans to some day help give the rest of the Japanese home computer games the same treatment we've given Super Mario Bros. Special and Donkey Kong 3: Dai Gyakushū, too. No promises we'll be too active, but pencil us in for keeping tabs on this thing until we can finally swing around to Punch Ball Mario Bros.!
4. Maw-Ray Master (talk) Per all. I do think English media translated into non-English languages should be included if the translation contains things that are not present in the original version, such as the Korean dub of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! replacing the original live-action segments with locally-produced segments and airings of the Danish dub of The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 featuring live-action segments reminiscent of that of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!. I don't think translations of games should be included the PipeProject, primarily due to them largely being the same across different languages.
5. Wilben (talk) Per all.
6. 初音ミク (talk) Also Per Proposal.

International comments

I think English media translated into non-English languages should be included if the translation contains signifcant differences from the original version, such as the Korean dub of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! replacing the original live-action segments with locally-produced segments and airings of the Danish dub of The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 featuring live-action segments reminiscent of that of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!. I don't think translations of English media such as games should be included the PipeProject, primarily due to them largely being the same across different languages.

Something else that should be included in the PipeProject are people and companies associated with creating the non-English media, such as Kazuki Motoyama (who wrote and illustrated Kodansha's Super Mario manga) and Atlantic Förlags AB (known for publishing the Nintendo-Magasinet, one of Nintendo's official magazines in Denmark, Norway, and Sweden). Many people and companies associated with creating this media lack articles, and it would be appreciated if articles were written for them. Maw-Ray Master (talk) 23:57, June 21, 2026 (UTC)

Regarding your first concern, I hadn't considered such cases since they were very rare. But yeah, those examples you mentioned should feel right at home with my intended scope.

As for your other concern, things like those are why I put both "media" and "subjects" as opposed to just the former. Those examples are also absolutely within the scope of this PipeProject. SuperGamer18 (talk) 00:23, June 22, 2026 (UTC)

Changes

Treat series and franchise names with no source for the name as conjectural

For context, almost every page on the wiki whose title is extrapolated (like Craw) or derived from established naming conventions, rather than being explicitly stated, is treated as conjectural. This holds true even cases where the title is following a very simple and obvious naming convention and the lack of an official name seems to be the result of a simple editing error. Series and franchise names are an odd exception to this. The titles of many of the series pages on this wiki seem to be extrapolated from the games having some shared text (Famicom Grand Prix is derived from Famicom Grand Prix: F1 Race and Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally, for example), but that doesn't make those official names per se. Keep in mind that titles in the same series don't always incorporate the series' name (see Nintendo treating Golf: Japan Course, Golf: US Course, and NES Open Tournament Golf as part of the Mario Golf series), and games can incorporate the name of a series in their title despite generally being excluded from it by official sources (see Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 and Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island).

The most egregious examples of extrapolated names are "Super Mario Stadium", which is derived from the Japanese names of Mario Superstar Baseball and Mario Super Sluggers due to their English names not sharing anything other than "Mario" and "Super"; and "DK (series)", which is extrapolated from both games being titled "DK: [something]" in American English specifically (DK: Jungle Climber is called "Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber" in European English). Honestly, I wouldn't mind if we stopped treating DK as a series and simply classified them as DKC spin-offs, since their status as a series is iffy at best, but that's a proposal for another day. If this proposal passes, any series and franchise pages that do not have a source for their title will be tagged as {{conjectural}}.

Proposer: Dive Rocket Launcher (talk)
Deadline: June 27, 2026, 23:59 (UTC)

Support (series)

1. Dive Rocket Launcher (talk) Per proposal.
2. Wilben (talk) I don't see why not.
3. Jdtendo (talk) Per proposal.
4. Polley001 (talk) Per proposal.
5. Yoshi18 (talk) I don't see why not either.

Comments (series)

I'm pretty sure this isn't the correct usage of "derived", which is about combining bits of a name from different sources. "Conjectural" would be fine. Hewer (talk · contributions · edit count) 11:36, June 13, 2026 (UTC)

Fine. Dive Rocket Launcher 12:24, June 13, 2026 (UTC)

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.