Editing Template talk:SSB

== SSB Original Characters ==

Jigglypuff appears in the original Smash brothers game as an unlockable character. Strangely enough, though this is noted on the SSB page, she is placed in the SSBM new characters section on the SSB template found in the various smash brothers characters bios. I've gone in and corrected this in the template. Feel free to move the placement of the link to anywhere else in the template (as far as the order of the characters being listed goes) if it is more fitting. Cheers! :3 --[[User:Jigglygrlcarrie|Carrie]] 09:12, 30 November 2006 (EST)

== Zero Suit Samus & Giga Bowser ==

Should [[Zero Suit Samus]] and [[Giga Bowser]] be included in the Brawl section or not? I think they don't fit in here. (Giga Bowser should be in the non-playable section because of his Melee appearance) - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 14:17, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Zero Suit Samus stays out, she is part of Samus' Final Smash. Giga Bowser goes into Non-Playable. Simple as that. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}

If they have their own characters section on the official site, they stay. {{User:Plumber/Pignature}} 13:42, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
:Zero Suit Samus has her own section, Giga Bowser is filed merely in Bowser's section. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 13:45, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

== About this template ==

Can be this template changed into a complexive table? For example like this, with other colors and so on.--[[User:Caith Sith|Caith Sith]] 08:25, 17 November 2007 (EST)

{| class="navbox" style="margin: 0 auto 0 auto; padding: 0.2em; background:#FAF8F0; text-align:center; border: 1px solid #E3DAB1; color:black" width=100%
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! style="background:#DFD7B1" |<span style="color:Black;">Super Smash Bros series Characters</span>
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| style="background:#E9E4CD" | <div>'''{{color-link|Super Smash Bros.|#000000}}''' <showhide><small>__HIDER__</small><hide><div>
{| width=100% style="background:ghostwhite"
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Playable characters</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Captain Falcon]]  &middot; [[Donkey Kong|D.K.]] &middot; [[Fox McCloud|Fox]] &middot; [[Jigglypuff]] &middot; [[Kirby]] &middot; [[Link]] &middot; [[Luigi]] &middot; [[Mario]] &middot; [[Ness]] &middot; [[Pikachu]] &middot; [[Samus Aran|Samus]] &middot; [[Yoshi]]</small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Non playable, bosses and minor characters</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Bob-omb]] | [[Fighting Polygons]] | '''[[Master Hand]]''' | [[Metal Mario]]</small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Stage & Pokéball {{color-link|Pokémon|#000000}}</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Charizard]] | [[Pokémon|Blastoise]] | [[Pokémon|Beedrill]] | [[Pokémon|Clefairy]] | [[Pokémon|Meowth]] | [[Pokémon|Onix]] | [[Pokémon|Hitmonlee]] | [[Pokémon|Koffing]] | [[Pokémon|Chansey]] | [[Pokémon|Goldeen]] | [[Pokémon|Starmie]] | [[Pokémon|Snorlax]] | [[Pokémon|Mew]] | Saffron City stage: [[Pokémon|Venusaur]] | [[Pokémon|Charmander]] | [[Pokémon|Electrode]] | [[Pokémon|Chansey]] | [[Pokémon|Porygon]] | [[Pokémon|Pidgey]] | [[Pokémon|Fearow]] | [[Pokémon|Ho-oh]]</small>
|}</div></hide></showhide></div>
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| style="background:#E9E4CD" | <div>'''{{color-link|Super Smash Bros. Melee|#000000}}''' <showhide><small>__HIDER__</small><hide><div>
{| width=100% style="background:ghostwhite"
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Playable characters ''(New)''</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Bowser]] &middot; [[Dr. Mario (character)|Dr. Mario]] &middot; [[Falco Lombardi|Falco]]  &middot; [[Ganondorf]] &middot; [[Ice Climbers]]  &middot; [[Marth]] &middot; [[Mewtwo]] &middot; [[Mr. Game & Watch]] &middot; [[Princess Peach|Peach]] &middot; [[Pichu]] &middot; [[Roy]] &middot; [[Young Link]] &middot; [[Princess Zelda|Zelda]] / [[Sheik]]</small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Non playable, bosses and minor characters ''(New)''</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>'''[[Crazy Hand]]''' | [[Fighting Wire Frame]] | [[Metal Luigi]] | [[Tingle]] |  [[Wolf O'Donnell]] | [[Sandbag]] | [[Peppy Hare]] | [[Slippy Toad]] | [[Banzai Bill]] | | [[Shy Guy]] | [[Pidgit]] | [[Birdo]] | [[Mr. Saturn]] | [[Majora's Mask]] | [[Polar Bear]] | [[Topi]] | [[Turtle (SSB)|Turtle]] | [[Whispy Woods]] | [[Super Happy Tree]] | [[UFO]] | Adventure mode enemies and '''bosses''': [[Goomba]] | [[Koopa Troopa]] | [[Paratroopa]] | [[Like Like]] | [[ReDead]] | '''[[Kraid]]''' | '''[[Dark Link]]''' | '''[[Giga Bowser]]''' </small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Stage & Pokéball {{color-link|Pokémon|#000000}} ''(New)''</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Pokémon|Clefairy]] | [[Pokémon|Weezing]] | [[Pokémon|Staryu]] | [[Pokémon|Articuno]] | [[Pokémon|Zapdos]] | [[Pokémon|Moltres]] | [[Pokémon|Chikorita]] | [[Pokémon|Cyndaquil]] | [[Pokémon|Togepi]] | [[Pokémon|Bellossom]] | [[Pokémon|Marill]] | [[Pokémon|Unown]] | [[Pokémon|Wobbuffet]] | [[Pokémon|Scizor]] | [[Pokémon|Porygon 2]] | [[Pokémon|Raikou]] | [[Entei]] | [[Pokémon|Suicune]] | [[Pokémon|Lugia]] | [[Pokémon|Celebi]] | [[Pokémon|Ditto]] | Poké Floats stage: [[Squirtle]] | [[Pokémon|Psyduck]] | [[Pokémon|Slowpoke]] | [[Pokémon|Wooper]] | [[Pokémon|Sudowoodo]] | [[Pokémon|Seel]] | [[Pokémon|Lickitung]] | [[Pokémon|Geodude]]</small>
|}</div></hide></showhide></div>
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| style="background:#E9E4CD" | <div>'''{{color-link|Super Smash Bros. Brawl|#000000}}''' <showhide><small>__HIDER__</small><hide><div>
{| width=100% style="background:ghostwhite"
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Playable characters ''(New)''</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Diddy Kong]] &middot; [[Ike]] &middot; [[King Dedede]] &middot; [[Lucas]] &middot; [[Meta Knight]] &middot;  [[Pit]]  &middot; [[Pokémon Trainer]] <small>([[Squirtle]] &middot; [[Ivysaur]] &middot; [[Charizard]])</small> &middot; [[Snake (character)|Snake]] &middot; [[Sonic the Hedgehog|Sonic]] &middot; [[Wario]] &middot; [[Zero Suit Samus]]</small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Non playable, bosses and minor characters ''(New)''</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Palutena]] | [[Petey Piranha]] | [[Rayquaza]] | [[Subspace Army]] | [[Hammer Bros.]] | [[Koopa]] | [[Goomba]] | [[Bullet Bill]] | [[Condor]] | [[King Bulblin and Lord Bullbo]] | [[Ultimate Chimera]] | [[Waddle Dee]] | [[Waddle Doo]] | [[Gordo]] </small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">{{color-link|Subspace Army|#000000}} characters</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Ancient Minister]] | [[Primid]] | [[R.O.B.]] | Minor enemies: [[Subspace Army|Roader]] | [[Subspace Army|Poppant]] | [[Subspace Army|Bytan]] | [[Subspace Army|Trowlon]] | [[Subspace Army|Shaydas]] | [[Subspace Army|Auroros]] | [[Subspace Army|Greap]] | [[Subspace Army|Spaak]] | [[Subspace Army|Glunder]] | [[Subspace Army|Boom Primid]] | [[Subspace Army|Mite]]</small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">Stage & Pokéball {{color-link|Pokémon|#000000}} ''(New)''</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Pokémon|Groudon]] | [[Pokémon|Deoxys]] | [[Pokémon|Munchlax]] | [[Pokémon|Piplup]] | [[Pokémon|Torchic]] | [[Pokémon|Kyogre]] | [[Pokémon|Gardevoir]] | [[Pokémon|Latios and Latias]] | Pokémon Stadium 2 stage: [[Pokémon|Cubone]] | [[Pokémon|Dugtrio]] | [[Pokémon|Skarmory]] | [[Pokémon|Drifloon]] | [[Pokémon|Hoppip]] | [[Pokémon|Electivire]]</small>
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|style="background:#F4F1E4" |<span style="color:Black;">{{color-link|Assist Trophy|#000000}} characters</span>
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| align="center" bgcolor="ghostwhite" style="vertical-align:top;"> | <small>[[Assist Trophy|Advance Wars]] | [[Assist Trophy|Andross]] | [[Assist Trophy|Devil/Demon]] | [[Assist Trophy|Dr. Wright]] | [[Assist Trophy|Excitebike]] | [[Assist Trophy|Gray Fox]] | [[Hammer Bro.]] | [[Assist Trophy|Knuckle Joe]] | [[Assist Trophy|Jill]] | [[Lakitu]] | [[Assist Trophy|Little Mac]] | [[Assist Trophy|Lyn]] | [[Assist Trophy|Mach Rider]] | [[Assist Trophy|Metroid]] | [[Assist Trophy|Mr. Resetti]] | [[Assist Trophy|Nintendog]] | [[Assist Trophy|Saki]] | [[Assist Trophy|Samurai Goroh]]</small>
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Looks great! Though I had to remove the categories from this talk page. {{User:Wayoshi/sig}} 08:39, 17 November 2007 (EST)
:Why are the Pokémon and Assist Trophies on the list? {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
::They are characters, with or without articles. Various Pokémon has his own articles, indeed (Entei for example), and the rest are redirects to the main article. And, is in the future we did articles about them... --[[User:Caith Sith|Caith Sith]] 22:29, 17 November 2007 (EST)
:::OK, but don't use their redirects. Just link them directly to the [[Pokémon]] and [[Assist Trophy]] pages. ;) Also, face it, we will NEVER make articles on the [[Poké Ball]] Pokemon. =| They are too minor. {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}} Fix'd! =D
::::Huh... ok, but i think that a Pokéball Pokémon, for example Chansey, who have appear in various games, is not minor. Is exactly like an ability of Super Mario RPG or a Mario Party minigame. 3-4 sentences and a picture... no? I think the same about Assist Trophy, but this is not the point :P. However, Do you like the template? can i complete it and replace the old? (and sorry again for my bad english :$)--[[User:Caith Sith|Caith Sith]] 22:47, 17 November 2007 (EST)
:::::I agree, the Poké Ball Pokémon articles would be about the same size as a SMRPG attack or MP mini-game article. HOWEVER! Because the Pokémon are from a different series, they are not as major as an attack or a mini-game. Get it? Also, heck ya! Replace the old one! ;) {{User:Pokemon DP/sig}}
:::::Hehe, ok, i got the idea at last :P. Sorry again ;). I go to complete the template ;). But i think the same xDD, if a Pokémon appears in various games (Goldeen in the three SSB, for example) maybe we can consider to make an article of it.--[[User:Caith Sith|Caith Sith]] 08:52, 18 November 2007 (EST)
What about the characters in the stages like [[Peppy Hare]]?
--{{User:Mr.Game and Watch/sig}} 09:06, 18 November 2007 (EST)
:Huh... i put in the template ALL characters appeared in the series: enemies, characters that affects the gameplay in stages, pokémon, assist trophy, and cameos itself. Take a look...--[[User:Caith Sith|Caith Sith]] 10:03, 18 November 2007 (EST)
What happen with the template? looks very bad now :/. We can't undo the last changes?--[[User:Caith Sith|Caith Sith]] 18:03, 11 December 2007 (EST)
:I smoothed out some unrelated and unneeded code (and removed the lists of Pokémon), but I don't know how it affected the blank lines that suddenly appeared. I don't know how to fix the problem, because this template uses exactly the same code as {{tem|SSB Moves}}, which doesn't have the blank lines. :-/ We'd need an advanced coder to see through it. Possibly Wayoshi. - {{User:Cobold/sig}} 12:47, 15 December 2007 (EST)

== Merged? ==

Why are all the games in the same template? Wouldn't it be better if they were separated? {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== Split the 3 Templates ==
{{TPP}}
I don't know if there is a reason why these are all merged, but I think they should be split. There is no reason they should be merged, they all have different content and they're meant for different games.

'''Proposer:''' {{User|Tails777}}<br>
'''Deadline:''' August 13, 2013, 23:59 GMT

===Support===
#{{User|Tails777}} Per me
#{{User|LeftyGreenMario}} I don't see why this template is merged. The ''Mario Party'' series don't have all their games merged. And when it comes to game series with similar sizes, the ''Mario & Luigi'' series also have split templates. I don't quite get why this is merged. It's not that the content in the navigation template is too little by themselves or that the series is too small to have separate templates. It would also unnecessarily lump other games into an article that deals with an exclusive. For instance, you have to put this template in a Melee-only article (the [[Parasol]], for instance), but you get links to stuff pertaining to other games. So, I'd support splitting this template if there aren't any good reason otherwise.
#{{User|Walkazo}} - For consistency with every other game-based template.
#{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Per Tails.
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} Per all
#{{User|Yoshi876}} Per Lefty.
#{{User|Gonzales Kart Inc.}} Per Walkazo.
#{{User|Megadardery}} [[MarioWiki:Navigation_Templates#Game-Specific_Templates|This is already our policy]].. "In theory, every game should have one"
#{{User|Iggy Koopa Jr}} Why merge them???
#{{User|World10}} I don't see any point to have them merged, per all.
#{{User|Madikoopa}} Per all.

===Oppose===
#{{User|Mario7}} Since it is not a mainstream ''Mario'' series, the templates should stay merged
#{{User|ParaLemmy1234}} Different games, different templates.

===Comments===
@Mario7: The ''Mario & Sonic'' games aren't mainstream Mario games and they get separate templates. This should be no different. {{User|Tails777}}
:Neither is ''Mario & Luigi'' series. {{User:LeftyGreenMario/sig}} 13:43, 31 July 2013 (EDT)

@Paralemmy1234: You say 'Different games, different template', so why is your vote in the section to keep them merged? {{User|Yoshi876}}