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[[File:Space TeamSeagull MP7.png|53px|link=User talk:LeftyGreenMario/Archive 1|Chapter 1: The first batch of messages.]]
[[File:BabyMarioArcadeGP2 CastleofCake.png|53px|link=User talk:LeftyGreenMario/Archive 2|Part 2: The second horde of words too horrible to describe.]][[File:MP9 Luigi Board Turn Render.png|53px|link=User talk:LeftyGreenMario/Archive 3|Disc 3: The third batch of doldrums aimed to kill anybody that hates boredom.]][[File:PeachIcon-SMG.png|53px|link=User talk:LeftyGreenMario/Archive 4|Section 4: A Large Gap of Inactivity Was in Between Here and Piantas Sat on Them.]]
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[[File:Blooperemblem.png|53px|link=User talk:Mario/Archive 5|The Fifth Element: Placidity and Some Wario Spam by This Yoshi Guy.]][[File:MP9 Chain Chomp Bust.png|53px|link=User talk:Mario/Archive 6|Article 6, Clause 1: It is illegal to leave Wario alive. And Mario's name emerges.]]'''[[File:MK8 BabyDaisy.png|53px|link=User talk:Mario/Archive 7|Wario Wars: Episode 7: The R-rated Life Documentary of Wario]][[File:Metal Mario Model.png|53px|link=User talk:Bazooka Mario/Archive 8|Toadsworth's Boring Symphony: Movement 8 (complete with a bazooka)]]<br>[[File:MP9 Wiggler Bust.png|53px|link=User talk:Bazooka Mario/Archive 9|The 久 form of the dragon.]][[File:Fireminimario.png|53px|link=User talk:Bazooka Mario/Archive 10|The X-files on how to kill Wario with a bunch of X's.]]
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== Congrats on 10 Archives! ==

For reaching this chatty milestone, here is a comically tiny Attacky Sack: [[File:YSAttacky Sack.png|10px]] [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 21:55, April 26, 2022 (EDT)
:Why thank you! Have you heard about some really distant accordion music? Well here's a visual representation of one: [[File:MSC Mugshot Wario gold.png|3px]] Why, it is as big as the period at the end of this sentence! Hope it gets destroyed by some monchers AND that Attacky Sack. [[File:NSMBW Chain Chomp Render.png|82px]] {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 22:04, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

== RE:Cowboy Wario has wandered in your talk page! ==

He managed to find out a new equation after drinking a cup of spoiled milk? [[Milk|Here's his reward and]] [[Refrigerator|research grant that was definitely not bought from]] [[Junk]]. 

Look, he's already made another new equation! 
[[File:MKT 225CB.png|50px]] + [[File:MKT Icon DoubleDecker.png|50px]] + [[File:MKT Icon London Loop.png|80px]] = [[File:MKT Icon WaluigiBusDriver.png|50px]] 

{{User:WildWario/sig}} 23:58, May 1, 2022 (EDT)
:Holy cow, Mushroom Kingdom is moving ''fast'' with its technological advancements! What's next, a backpack and a mountain creating a new Mario Kart racer?? He needs another research grant, preferably one that can help him buy a new used microwave oven to help him cook up more equations. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 00:23, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

:[[Oven|After]] [[Bread|buying]] [[Bowser's Sourpuss Bread|him]] [[Magma Burger|too]] [[Garlic|many]] [[Butter|food]] [[Pizza|and]] [[Stove|items]], he found the most amazing equation of the year that solves [[Mario]]'s halloween costume issue for the {{fake link|17th Moo Moo Halloween Tour}}, allowing him to win the {{fake link|15th Moo Moo and King Boo's Moo Moo Boo Boo Costume Contest}}!

([[File:SMO Zombie Headwear.png|50px]] + [[File:MKT Icon Mario.png|50px]] - 99 [[File:1-Up Mushroom Artwork - Super Mario 3D World.png|50px]] + [[File:Plus Clock Artwork - Super Mario 3D World.png|50px]] + [[File:DMW-Amp.png|50px]]) × 2 [[File:SMM2 SMW Rotten Mushroom.png|50px]] = [[File:SMO Mario Skeleton.png|50px]] {{User:WildWario/sig}} 00:50, May 2, 2022 (EDT)
::Hm, you'd think the axe isn't necessary since Mario's head is already detached from his body. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 18:55, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

== WAHAHA! ==

Your talk page has been attacked by an even uglier Wario! Tremble before his disgustingly low-resolution texture as he fouls up this page with his ghastly appearance!

[[File:SM64DS Wario Model.png]]

Have a rotten day,

--{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 17:05, June 3, 2022 (EDT)
:I tried collapsing the post, but I couldn't, Wario was too fat. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 21:27, June 3, 2022 (EDT)

== "just don't laugh at my username unless you like your prized possessions turned to petunias" ==

<big><big><big><div style="color:#ff1188">HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH</div></big></big></big>
[[File:Warioart2.png|300px]]<br>
By the by, congrats on your promotion! {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:34, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:Y'know Wario's treasures? Turned into azaleas, kinda like the mess in here.
:[[File:SMO Wooded Moon 27.png|500px]]
:Don't mess with ol' 'zuka. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:58, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

== Heh ==

I can't imagine how Wario feels knowing you now have the power to send him to the Shadow Realm with your new powers. Congratulations! {{User:PanchamBro/sig}} 17:52, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:Well, I'm not quite the decorated janitor ''yet'', as I can't destroy pages and images related to him, but I can give him some inconvenience and misery with some good ol' blocking! Thanks! {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:37, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

== Wario of the Day ==

For being promoted to patroller, you have earned a very special Golden Wario of the Day. Look at the shine of that beautiful spraypai- err, very real gold!

[[File:MP9 StepItUp GoldStatue Wario.png|300px]]

Have a rotten day,

--{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 18:09, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:I think I just saw that statue twitch its stache. 🤨 {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:38, June 5, 2022 (EDT)

== Congrats on your promotion to Patroller! ==

You deserve it! To commemorate your WAHAHAnderful achievement, here's a absolutely massive Attacky Sack: <div class="contentbox mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">[[File:Attacky Sack.png|1000px]]</div> 
Sending sincere applause, [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 19:15, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:How good is it at destroying Wario is my only question. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:33, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
::Does "flattens people and bites ravenously" sound good enough to you? ;) [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 21:12, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
:::I'm not sure if that's as aWAHsome as Bazooka Mario (props for the promotion, by the way!), could it become BFF with Wario who also "flattens people and bites ravenously" (when garlic is around, that is)?--[[User:Mister Wu|Mister Wu]] ([[User talk:Mister Wu|talk]]) 22:34, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::Congrats! [[Media:SM3DW Gift Box.jpg|Here's a]] [[Gift Box]]! {{User:WildWario/sig}} 23:37, June 5, 2022 (EDT)
::::@Wu Sure! [[User:Somethingone|Somethingone]] ([[User talk:Somethingone|talk]]) 06:21, June 6, 2022 (EDT)
:::::What's in that gift box? It better not be a wild stink bomb! {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 23:27, June 6, 2022 (EDT)

== Darkly's residency status ==

Thought I'd point out to you that Professor Frankly states before you have to see Darkly "a fellow from Twilight Town lives right here in Rogueport" (probably not the exact quote but along those lines). {{User:Swallow/sig}} 20:11, June 28, 2022 (EDT)
:Ah I see. I do think the "immigrant" part is not the best word I'd use, seems too jargony, if that's the right word? {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 01:10, June 30, 2022 (EDT)

== Super Mario 3D World page ==

Hello, I saw that you edited the Worlds section of the [[Super Mario 3D World]] article. How come you replaced the images for Koopa Troopa Cave and Chargin' Chuck Blockade? I was already in the process of replacing all of those images with higher quality pictures I took in Bowser's Fury. The reason why the construction template is there is because I'm not done yet. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 17:46, August 3, 2022 (EDT)
:I was going to get around to doing that and felt like I should make use of what I have, so I took emulator screenshots and uploaded those. Didn't realize you were just getting started on replacing these. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the MIME format doesn't match, since I use PNG and iirc those thumbnails were in png before they were replaced with higher resolution ones. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:04, August 3, 2022 (EDT)
::I kept my Bowser's Fury screenshots in the .jpg format because I was [[User talk:0blivion#Uploads|previously asked]] not to change them to PNGs. I'd prefer being able to finish uploading my JPG images to the page for consistency's sake. [[File:SMS Strollin Stu Artwork.png|x35px]] [[User:0blivion|0blivion]] 21:44, August 3, 2022 (EDT)
:::Yeah I saw, and I was going to say to not do that because it'll make reuploading earlier, but that's probably going to conflict with policy, so. Yeah, go ahead. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 22:15, August 3, 2022 (EDT)

== Miyamoto ==

Its fine to keep Donkey Kong as a series Miyamoto created on his page correct? I'm trying to get through to a user that disagrees with that.
[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 19:58, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
:I think it's okay. We don't list Wario or Yoshi series as Miyamoto's. There can be further discussion on which components of the DK series we should be attributing to Miyamoto, as Donkey Kong Country is quite a different game and a bigger series than the original arcade games, but as a very general statement, there's little problem listing it. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:00, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
:::Gotcha, thanks!
:::[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 20:03, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
::::But unlike Pikmin, Star Fox, and Zelda, we don't have a Donkey Kong-centered wiki [[User:Mario Manga Reader|Mario Manga Reader]] ([[User talk:Mario Manga Reader|talk]]) 20:05, August 22, 2022 (EDT)
:::::We do cover both Donkey Kong and Mario content due to a good overlap they have with each other but I do think it's worth emphasizing that the DK games did originate from Miyamoto and not necessarily Yoshi (though Miyamoto had heavy involvement in the Yoshi's Island series which are the main installment in the series) or Wario. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:10, August 22, 2022 (EDT)

== Bodybuilders HATE him! Find out Wario’s golden secret when it comes to diet and exercise! ==

[[File:Wario Jump Gold.png|250px]]

The secret is he doesn’t do it at all! Look at that flab jiggle and wave as Wario lifts ten tons of DK branded banana pancakes and eats them all in one sitting! That septuple chin, that large and disgusting belly, and that unmistakeable greasy, smelly mustache is a result of Wario’s Awesome 1 Step Diet and Exercise Plan! Watch as the pounds grow and grow from Wario’s patented* Eat-It-All system! You’ll be the envy of all your friends as you say “pass the mashed potatoes” for the 15th time without any sense of guilt! 

(Note: Wario’s Awesome 1 Step Diet and Exercise Plan may not be healthy to any living organism. Consult yourself before attempted usage of this product. If you or a loved one has used this product and developed serious side effects we can’t even mention on this article, panic and run away as fast as you can. They will soon become another Wario in the Wario Collective. Resistance is futile. PURCHASE AND USE THIS PRODUCT AND THEN RECOMMEND IT TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW. Wah-ha-ha!)

*Not approved by any patent office. Use caution.

This is a not-paid advertisement by Wario Pharmacy. A family name for over 20 years that you can <small>not</small> trust!

{{User:MightyMario/sig}} 20:01, November 13, 2022 (EST)
:I don't want anything to do with Wario's golden secrets, much less regular secrets! Why don't you take this stupid pizza and ROLL with it.
:[[File:WarioWare Touched Fat Wario cameo.png]]
:{{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:52, November 13, 2022 (EST)

::”Mmm! Delicious pizza! Hey, that’s me on the plate! Yes siree, Wario’s Awesome 1 Step Diet and Exercise Plan is working wonders! Wah-ha-ha!”

(sniff) (sniffsniff) “Why does it smell like gunpow-“

'''<big>KA-BLOOEY!!!</big>'''
{{User:MightyMario/sig}} 20:00, November 14, 2022 (EST)
:::https://i.imgur.com/rcnP9Tv.gifv
:::{{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 20:05, November 14, 2022 (EST)

== Wario extermination squad ==

Hello. I would like to join. I don't have a userbox, but I would be happy to have one to start my tower. I found some Warios in my yard & I feel like you would like to get rid of them for me. I tried, but their farts were too much. At least I have free energy. Weird. Wario can violate the laws of conservation of energy & matter. I have some Waluigis in my yard as well, if you take those as well as Warios. Thank you in advance.{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:56, February 21, 2023 (CST)
:Sure. Is... there already a userbox concerning the Wario Extermination Squad? If not, silly me, I should've prepped one years ago! Anyway, the Warios are gone. The promise of free money that just so happens to be in an exhibit of hungry hippos did the trick. As for Waluigi, I'll post updates when THAT spidery menace will be gone, but it shouldn't take long. Thanks for calling up Wario extermination! {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 22:16, February 21, 2023 (EST)
::I need to look in the archives. You didn't even see what the Warios are. How did you get rid of them? Plus, I think that broke the multiverse. The Waluigis in my yard aren't gone, though. But anyways, thank you! {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 08:09, February 22, 2023 (CST)
:::USERBOX UPDATE! I found it in your 8th archive. That took a minute or 2 with the search function. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 08:15, February 22, 2023 (CST)
::::LATEST UPDATE! The multiverse appears to be more broken. MM54321 characters are messing with my perfectly good grill! SMG4 characters are causing more multiversal warps! I think I see you in the crowd! {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 08:30, March 09, 2023 (CST)
:::::Don't worry, I'm working on the bombs as we speak... hmm {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 11:09, March 9, 2023 (EST)
::::::What bombs? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:38, March 09, 2023 (CST)
:::::::DAY LATER UPDATE! Still don't know what bombs you're talking about. Also, I think I see Super Mario Scralaxy, Super Mario Bros. Z, Sonic multiverse, Mega Man multiverse, and Pac Man multiverse characters. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 13:34, March 10, 2023 (CST)
::::::::3 DAYS LATER UPDATE! No new information about the bombs received. Stefano is farting on the new Warios. The Waluigis are doing iffy stuff. Movie Sonic is trying to abduct me, but my security won't let him. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 08:17, March 13, 2023 (CST)
:::::::::Well I found out, it's just garlic bombs. Sure, it tastes delicious in all sorts of soups and whatnot, especially powdered form, but it's REALLY hard to wash off the laundry! I know how it is, I ate raw garlic before and I couldn't get the sensation away from my mouth for several days. Luckily, I've had this experience before. Just wipe yourself with [[Repel Gel]] to spare the embarrassment for a few days. And make sure you massage it reallllll good. However side effects include aggressive behavior or other behavior problems, anxiety, concentration problems and change in school performance, crying, depression, false, sense of well-being, the sudden urge to get rich quick, and suspiciousness or distrust of MarioWiki admins. Don't overdose! {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 22:18, March 31, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::::That got rid of all the Warios & Waluigis. However, I think Movie Sonic just turned... is that Hyper or Ultra? Both? I see the flashing colors of Hyper form & the atom of Ultra form. Oh crap. He saw me. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (A few hours later) Ogggg, I feel weird. Wait, this is a weird watch I have on. Wait, why does it say it was made by you? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 09:56, April 03, 2023 (CST)
:::::::::::I have a feeling this was just an attempt to prevent you from breathing in Wario powder, which sometimes scatters around when Waluigi pokes his elbows in Wario and causes Wario to explode. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:08, April 3, 2023 (EDT)

== Apology ==

Whoops! So sorry about that! That was honestly a mistake on my end, I'll try better to be more aware of that.

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 10:44, March 9, 2023 (EST)
:Eh no problem..[[File:Go Mario.png]] {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 11:08, March 9, 2023 (EST)

== Super Mario Movie Gallery ==

Sorry about the mixup. Let me do this properly.

I have started a talk page about the matter of a disagreement with a set of artwork scans that look like they’ve been labelled “McDonalds Happy Meal scans”, which look nothing like happy meal toys if you ask me. I hope this [https://twitter.com/REtroTAg/status/1612033101693358081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1612033101693358081%7Ctwgr%5Ee52162b218f86ae33c4894fca720717ed25cf72f%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dualshockers.com%2Ffrench-happy-meal-toys-give-a-closer-look-at-the-super-mario-bros-movies-character-models%2F twitter link] solves the dispute of the matter. Maybe an administrator can look into this. I never like to mislead people into thinking something like an image scan is objective to the contrary. {{subst:nosubst|User:Marino13/sig}} 11:25, March 9, 2023 (EST)

== RE: General information for wario ware characters ==

Hello. Last two months when I was an anonymous, I actually put a "[[Dr. Crygor#Physical description|physical appearance]]" section in [[Dr. Crygor]] in [https://www.mariowiki.com/User_talk:Bazooka_Mario/Archive_8#Hi! the same way] that you did with [[Mona#Physical appearance|Mona]] last June 2014. Can you please add some "general information" sections for all of the Warioware characters? Would appreciate it.

P.S. The physical appearance section located in Dr. Crygor article needs to be analyzed for some inconsistensies. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 00:25, March 12, 2023 (EST)
:Sorry, I don't think I can fit time to commit to that. Thanks for asking, though. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 01:24, March 12, 2023 (EST)

== Crygor's lab ==

I expanded [[Dr. Crygor's Lab|crygor's lab]] article. Can you please '''expound on its appearances''', please? Also it's missing WWDIY navtemplate.

p.s. Like what you did on Dr. Crygor and Mona articles {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 20:18, April 1, 2023 (EDT)

== Free Warios. ==

This Wario is for compensation for the Wario Balloon you 'gave' me that Hyper Ultra Movie Sonic destroyed.

[[File:Wariolose.gif]]

He's sad that his balloon is destroyed. Also, the balloon was filled with video games. I saw it for a brief amount of time before I blacked out from being kidnapped. The video games are somehow with me.

This Wario is for {{User|Waluigi Time}}, because you sent a Wario to him.

[[File:Best Ending.png]]

He got his riches back and then some. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 10:07, April 03, 2023 (CST)
:I forwarded that thing but it turns out I can't delete it and I may have accidentally faxed the thing twice. Now he has TWICE the money <s>and twice the coins he'll have to pay me once he lands on a [[Battle Space]])</s> [[File:Paper Mario Dizzy.png]] {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:36, April 3, 2023 (EDT)

== Congratulations! ==

Congratulations for the promotion! I mean, of course this being ''a wiki named after you'' it was overdue, but you went the extra mile and fully deserved it ;-)—06:33, April 6, 2023 (EDT)
:Mama mia, thanks for that, Mister Wu! {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:53, April 6, 2023 (EDT)

== [[Talk:Megan Rose Ruiz]] ==

The artist's personal fan art isn't an issue, as it's [https://twitter.com/meganroseruiz/status/1643783894364491777 still up on their Twitter] and wiki policy [[MarioWiki:Coverage#Fan work by creators officially involved with the brand|states such material is acceptable here]]. I request the restoration of those 3 images not connected to the Mario movie's production. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 21:35, April 7, 2023 (EDT)
:It's been done. I was worried the personal art too would run afoul, but they seem to still be up. However if they were taken down for similar reasons, I still must delete them even if technically they adhere to wiki policy. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:41, April 7, 2023 (EDT)

== RE:Article dispute ==

Done, and hey, this discussion sort of ties into how the wiki covers multi-franchise material (hence my parallel about Smash, an on-going debate), so you might be interested in pitching in too :) {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 11:34, May 20, 2023 (EDT)

== History of Mario looks good ==
At first I was confused, but I'm seeing your hard work on the page, and now I think it looks awesome. Also wanted to give my thanks for talking through some things on the wiki that i was unsure of, like the History of Mario, or like bringing up talk page discussion on Red Coin when there was potential editor conflict and adding upon an idea inspired by mine. [[User:CoolNintendo|CoolNintendo]] ([[User talk:CoolNintendo|talk]]) 14:44, May 21, 2023 (EDT)
:[[File:Go Mario.png]] No problem. And thank you for participating in some wiki discussions, hope you enjoy editing MarioWiki! {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:47, May 21, 2023 (EDT)

== Sandboxes ==

I saw some other users have sandbox pages. Is it okay for me to have my own too? The Smash Brothers lists set a precedent and inspired me to think about how third-party content lists would look, like for example Sonic, while at the same time not proposing it (at least not so early on) but rather giving users an idea on how the pages would look. But it's a delicate situation because to stay a super wiki (we're past ''Mario'', now we're ''SUPER'' Mario), we need a super lot of articles, so making list pages would be for very limited circumstances. It's a complicated matter. [[User:CoolNintendo|CoolNintendo]] ([[User talk:CoolNintendo|talk]]) 14:17, June 27, 2023 (EDT)
:Sure, you can have your own sandbox page. It's a good space to use if you plan on making consecutive edits to a big page, especially when you plan on making major contributions to it later and don't feel it's ready for other users to edit yet. User sandbox pages are also great places to test templates too. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:13, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

I know you can access other redirect pages by typing the redirect in the search bar and clicking on the link shown at the top of the page you were redirected to but for the subpage redirects (e.g. < [[User:Pizza Master]]), I can't access them by using the search bar. Is there a way for me to access the redirect page for a subpage redirect?--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 22:24, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
:Perhaps you can use [[Special:WhatLinksHere]]? You can find the "what links here" under the tools tab on the left sidebar too. {{User:Mario/sig}} 23:04, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not finding it that way either. Should I ask [[User:Porplemontage|Steve]] if it's possible to access the subpage redirects?--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 23:20, August 16, 2023 (EDT)
:Just wondering, but what redirects have you created? What pages? I checked your logs,[https://www.mariowiki.com/Special:Log/Pizza_Master] checked your page creation log and checked the redirect logs and the move logs (moves tend to create redirects), but I'm not finding any results. {{User:Mario/sig}} 23:24, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

I meant like the small link at the top of the sandbox page that automatically is made upon creation of a user subpage that redirects to the userpage. Would I be unable to remove that?--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 01:35, August 17, 2023 (EDT)
:Oh yeah, that's just a feature of subpages. The link is probably just a way to show the parent page so you can easily get back to it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:38, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. Thank you for confirming that for me.--{{User:Pizza Master/sig}} 01:45, August 17, 2023 (EDT)

== RE: Do not converse with trolls ==

Does answering "no" to a question that for all I know was some twisted measure of legitimate (and either way, is denying an accusation) and putting song lyrics in descriptions because I'm bored and simply reverting really count as such? [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:50, August 12, 2023 (EDT)
:Yes. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:25, August 13, 2023 (EDT)
::Very well then. I won't dignify trolls with a response following this message. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 22:55, August 13, 2023 (EDT)

== Hey Mario! ==

[https://crygorcrisis.neocities.org/party/bios/wario I think you're going to love this monolog.] It's from one of your "favorite" characters. I typed it. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 06:47, August 18, 2023 (EDT)
:Mama mia! My cursor changed too! Why did Wario bother to make a page about himself, but can't type out the rest of his monologue? He can't call himself a worthy rival of Mario! {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:24, August 18, 2023 (EDT)

== Mario Wonder ==

https://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/5/57/20230401020206%21Mario_Green.png [[File:SMBW Bubble Mario.png|100px]] Congrats on Bazooka Mario getting into Mario Wonder {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 11:09, August 31, 2023 (EDT)
:I know! I immediately thought about my previous Mariosona lmao! {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:19, August 31, 2023 (EDT)


== Not an official plush? ==
What do you mean Not an official plush? It looks like Pauline! Doesn't it? I don't want to argue with you. {{User:SMBros/sig}}
:It's not a licensed toy. The vendor in the source listed [https://www.walmart.com/search?q=INT&facet=brand:INT] shows multiple unlicensed products,[https://www.walmart.com/ip/INT-9Pcs-Set-Super-Ma-rio-Figure-Ma-rio-Action-Figure-for-Collection-Gifts-2/3120255213?from=/search] (for instance, not only the mold quality and paint job in this product are subpar, but the Mario with a firefighter hat does not refer to any existing game; it's a nonexistent variation of Mario) or they show recognizable knockoffs of existing products. If you find a Pauline plush online, make sure you note what the brand it's selling under and check the brand's site. If there is no brand, it may be a knockoff. {{User:Mario/sig}} 00:01, September 2, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for the tip. {{User:SMBros/sig}}

== Assistance Needed ==

Hey there

So {{User|Mushroom Head}} brought to my attention that I'm somehow violating Userspace Policy, but I'm not entirely sure how I'm doing that. I don't think they're online at the moment and I'd like to get to the bottom of this problem asap (as I dislike letting these things lasting) so would you be able to help me out? {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:Yeah, I have work atm. What subpages do you have? {{User:Mario/sig}} 11:07, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
::No problem. I have my talk page, obviously, my signature page, a status page and two work pages; one for general work and one for my ''Tour'' alternate list pages. Something about blocking access on mobile, which is weird cause any links I have leading to my talk page leads right to my talk page and not to any of the archives I have set up. {{User:Tails777/sig}}
:::I reviewed the userspace policy and I'm not seeing violations. You can have multiple subpages as long as they're relevant to MarioWikis goals. You have sandbox pages and it would be counterproductive if the rules block you from doing this (and so that rule shouldn't have been there if it was an existing one). I myself have a draft and a signature page, and there are likely users who made multiple subpages on their userspace to test templates and whatnot. {{User:Mario/sig}} 11:13, September 7, 2023 (EDT)
::::Thanks. I also went over everything and I don't think I'm violating anything. The only thing I thought of was when I moved my talk page content to my third archive and I'm not sure if something went wrong there, but as far as I'm concerned, nothing did. Talk page links lead to my normal talk page and I'm certain my archive pages aren't an issue either. In any case, thanks for the help! {{User:Tails777/sig}}

== "The Last Spark Hunter" Feature nomination past deadline ==

Back in July I nominated [[The Last Spark Hunter]] to become a Featured Article. It has been over a week since the deadline passed with no changes happening since. Do you know what happens now? Because I don't. Sorry I'm asking you about this; I don't know who to tell this to, plus you left comments on the Feature Page, and you're currently active on the Mario Wiki. {{User:Sparks/sig}} September 9, 2023 8:32 PM (EST)
:Oh I remember now. I was going to relay to other users on Discord on helping deal with this, since I do have a schedule and can't immediately commit time to it. Technically the nomination is considered to have failed and you have to renominate it, but on the other hand, it ''does'' not seem fair to just cancel it for a lack of edits and whatnot and just wait a month again and then renominate with minimal changes (since there's no serious complaint on the thing). I'm going to probably bring up discussion on how to proceed. The rule was defintely intended to prevent stalemates, but probably wasn't meant to cover just slower activity in the nomination page (years ago, when the rule was added, it was more normal to see like 20+ votes on these nominations and plenty of comments; [https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Featured_articles/N1/Luigi the Luigi nomination for instance had 50+ votes] and was basically stalemated). {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:53, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
::Okay. Thanks for clearing things up. {{User:Sparks/sig}} September 9, 2023 8:57 PM (EST)

== Pages ==
Hi, I'm just removing some info on a few pages because it was not only too technical for the reader base here but also because a lot didn't have to do with ''Super Mario''. I just hope you didn't think I was vandalizing. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 14:08, October 15, 2023 (EDT)
: [[File:Go Mario.png]]<br>I don't think it's vandalism at all, since you did explain your edits in the edit summary. Usually, if people are going to revert edits like yours, our wiki strongly recommends everyone should assume good faith and explain why they undid it. If you ever have your edits disputed, do explain your edits in the associated talk pages of the articles you're editing. I haven't seen any edit disputes yet, but I do encourage you to make edits you believe are improvements, even major ones, and don't worry about feeling like you're vandalizing, because you're not. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:14, October 15, 2023 (EDT)
::Also, to me when they talk about Super Mario games starring different protagonists as like Wario or Yoshi games, it feels like it complicates matters, so that's why I said Super Mario game gallery if that's okay. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 14:20, October 15, 2023 (EDT)
::I redid the [[Nintendo Monopoly]] page. The previous revision had these awful-looking tables, and I felt that it had to go. I don't think it's a set rule yet but the List of SSB fighter page names are so long and hard to remember that instead of deciding to adjust Samus's link to that page, I instead linked it to Metroid wiki. I just want to make sure I wasn't breaking a rule there either. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 15:52, October 15, 2023 (EDT)
:::Yeah, a lot of these tables are done suboptimally on the wiki. The current table in that page isn't also ideal. I'm not fond of colspan and rowspan in the middle of tables most of the time. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:02, October 15, 2023 (EDT)
::::Okay so I'm still reworking some of the pages. I noticed the Virtual Boy one had considerably more information about the console (including prototypes) over the ''Super Mario'' games for it. May I ask, what's your opinion on small sections in articles? There's small sections of Super Mario appearances of Virtual Boy that have only one or two sentences and it's kind of visually annoying when theres subsections with too little sentences or information. Like I'm not discouraging the use of paragraphs but I don't like to see headers packed so closely together, although I don't think there's any hard rule on it. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 15:06, October 16, 2023 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, it might be a better idea to summarize the sections. If the Virtual Boy appears in three Wario games, for instance, make a paragraph detailing the appearance rather than three one-sentence sections, kind of like how [[History of Mario]] deals with the [[History_of_Mario#WarioWare_series|WarioWare cameos]] in a paragraph rather than broken into sections. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:30, October 16, 2023 (EDT)

==Tables==
Some articles are still over the size limit as outlined in [[MarioWiki:Article size]] (I believe that's why the Mario, Yoshi, Wario articles got split)? For example, ''[[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars]]''. In its [[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars#Objects|Objects]] section i was inspired by the Famicom Grand Prix article to try and sort the stuff by columns but the only problem is that it not only add more bytes to the page size but also that it takes longer to do all those table conversions. the edit was kind of experimental but i think it was bothersome moving my eyes between squished rows, probably for the same reason as reading between sections that are too big. what would be a good solution? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 11:49, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
:If we need to shorten the page, I think the easiest candidates are those enemy and enemy tables. As for the nested tables, I don't recommend using those if a table closer to a list suffices. {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:36, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
::Yeah, it's because of the bestiary pages, correct? Nested tables do seem redundant, but I was going for the approach of organizing the information by columns like I've seen in some of the other game articles like Famicom GP. This makes me wonder if some sort of precedent can be set. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 18:42, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

==''Wonder''ing==
Hey, so as someone who'll be checking out the game later than sooner, quick question: what are Shovas and Gnawsher's internal names? They might just be romanizations, but if they're earlier names, that may help determine if they were meant to be somewhere within the Bros./Chomps.<br>Unrelated: something I've noticed is that some categories tend to "double-up". Like, for example, Category:Sonic the Hedgehog series is a subcategory of Category:Third-party characters. That almost makes sense, except not everything in the former is a character, and the ones that are already have the latter listed. So wouldn't it just make sense to remove the subcategory? [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 08:23, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
:Shova's internal name is "Osukun" at least from the model archive file, and I found that the Gnawsher creature is "Taberukun", probably reference to 食べる (verb of eat). {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:39, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
:As for categories, Sonic should be categorized only as "Category:Sonic the Hedgehog series", so yeah remove the instance of Category:Third-party characters. {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:41, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

== Totaka ==

Whoops, my bad, didn't look closely to see the hidden text added, apologies....

[[User:Sdman213|Sdman213]] ([[User talk:Sdman213|talk]]) 18:18, October 21, 2023 (EDT)

== Wario ==

[[File:Wario MP10.png]][[File:Wario.png|420px]]

"These are for you, my friend." Btw, feel free to send as many Yoshies as you want in my talk page (i don't have any limit) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:44, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
:Well I one time DID send some Yoshi pics to Waluigi Time a while back... so this is just the same idea. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:41, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

== Super Smash Bros. ==

As is known here, ''Super Smash Bros.'' is a gray area, and there's still remaining Smash Bros. coverage on some of the remaining non-''Super Mario'' characters that have appeared in some ''Super Mario'' games. If you check the [[Knuckles]] article, you'll see that I've reorganized the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series ([https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Knuckles&diff=4028716&oldid=4021584 revision]) so that it links to the SmashWiki page and organizes him by role rather than game-specific appearances, but this one was easier to do because Knuckles is not a playable fighter in the game. I still have my reserved doubts about whether the content should be there to begin with, but hopefully this helps the SmashWiki page stand out more. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 10:13, October 28, 2023 (EDT)
:It might take a proposal to reorganize these pages, but I do probably recommend down the line that we prioritize Mario & Sonic and other information from more Mario-involved crossovers over Super Smash Bros. (which probably means we eventually do away with the trophies and spirits that do take undue prominence in many of these pages) {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:43, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

== Caresaway Island's Gone ==
I just wanted some Help. [[User:SMBros]]
:You should start your page on your user sandbox. This way, you can make experimental edits, take your time learning how to edit the wiki, and get pointers on what you need to do, and this is without risking your page getting deleted for being small stubs. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:45, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

== Sections ==

I wanted to ask something else. Is there any rule about condensing sections? I'll go over a bit of my experiences and questions below:

If you check the history of the [[Lava]] page, me another editor briefly talked back and forth in the summaries about how the article would be best presented. But then I think your [[History of Mario]] article (the WarioWare section) showed everything under one section (something you pointed out to me in an earlier section). What I will say is that I definitely don't like when I see sections where two following ones just say like "has the same role in the first game" as it feels redundant to say it twice (like if something in ''Yoshi's Island'' games are the same in all three games). As for the Lava article, I don't really know what Nintendo officially considers ''Yoshi'' or ''Wario'' games, or rather ''Super Mario'' games that have them as the mascot, which would mean something else, so I wanted to for the safe route.

However, when editing the [[Gooble]] article, someone said it works better without a history section because it's only one appearance and a mention. [[Plungelo]]s are similar in this regard, so I felt that I'd match it with the Gooble article.

[[Lemguin]]s only have two game appearances. If you check the article's history, originally I got rid of the History section, but then I added it back because I was uncertain how some of the other editors would feel, though it is true that not everyone agrees on everything while editing. However, the Lemguin article does need manga information, so I'd think two game appearances and manga appearance would definitely mean a History section is needed. Screen size is relative, but if all the information can be read on a single screen without having to scroll (as on the Lemguin article), having a History section seems unnecessary. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 12:39, November 3, 2023 (EDT)
:No, there's no hard and fast rule. If you think information is organized better through a section merge, then go for it.
:I merged pretty much Mario's [https://www.mariowiki.com/History_of_Mario#Mario_Party_series Mario Party appearances] due to repetitive information and plot details not really concerning Mario directly. The same goes for the WarioWare section because one paragraph is better organized than tons of one-liners of minor cameos This also used to be the case for Mario's Mario Kart appearances until I split it again to focus more on Mario-related content of the games rather than Mario's indivudual role. Individual discretion allowed here, and if someone disagrees with how an article is organized, they'll probably adjust it to how they see it and if you don't like it, discuss with them. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:50, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
::Yeah, it's the one-liner sentence sections that bother me, and there's still not an easy solution in circumstances where there's two one- or two-liner sub-sections between larger sub-sections with more paragraphs because of that thing having larger contribution to the game's plot. I stated in a lava edit summary that i tried the tabber template to avoid 5 equal-sign headings. However, it didn't work out as I had hoped, and I realize it was specifically intended for use in infoboxes, not article text, which would've definitely gotten out of hand if that were allowed. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 14:17, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
:::The issue is probably the sections of "Wario franchise" and "Donkey Kong franchise" and whatnot. We may have to just simply merge with the Mario stuff so we have an extra header to spare. After all, we don't have Wario franchise subheaders in Mario's history. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:00, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
::::I hear the ''Yoshi'' platforming games are more complicated because the ''Yoshi's Island''-branded games are very similar to the standard ''Yoshi'' platforming games. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 15:11, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
:::::It's probably better to just sort like we do with the major character history pages, have Super Mario series, then Wario Land, then Mario Party, then WarioWare, etc rather than try to delineate between the umbrella series. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:13, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
::::::What about ''Yoshi's Woolly World'' and ''Yoshi's Crafted World''? Those unfortunately don't have their own ''Yoshi's World'' series, despite a shared similarity in the titles. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 15:15, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
:::::::Depends on the headers remaining. Either they get their own section (which would look disjoint, I get it) or they're grouped under the Yoshi series if you can squeeze all Yoshi games under there comfortably. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:16, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
::::::::I cannot think of any examples at the moment, but it would probably look the most disjoint if there's a large article on something with like 75+ appearances and then there's three equal-sign headings of ''Yoshi'' (puzzle game), ''Yoshi's Cookie'', ''Tetris Attack'', ''Yoshi's Story'', ''Yoshi's Woolly World'', and ''Yoshi's Crafted World'', each having their own sections. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 15:23, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

== Model Renders ==

Hello! I was looking through the ''[[Super Mario Bros. Wonder|SMBWonder]]'' enemies and I just wanna say the renders you made for some of the enemies are REALLY convincing. I got fooled into thinking they were official every time I saw them, that's how good they are.<br>I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I saw them in some random youtuber's video. {{User:MawioMawiolol/sig}} 14:50, November 3, 2023 (EDT)
:That's what more than few people are saying about my renders. It's a slow work in progress but I hope to rendering as many as I can. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:49, November 3, 2023 (EDT)
::I was gonna post about the same subject, but since someone already praised you for it, imma just do it here. I really like the work you put into them. (also side question: This wiki now allows fan-renders?) --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:51, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
:::Thanks! I'm not sure what the extent of fan renders are, but my reasoning was, we already allow t-posed renders, which are already technically fan renders to begin with (just with basic camera work and lighting). But I applied an official animation file to give it a more natural pose (so there's no often-stilted fan posing that usually gives it away) and whatnot and my involvement in the work is mostly camera angling and lighting. I also applied a subdivision to the model but the effect is minor, it just smooths out the shape slightly. I don't think we should be rendering out custom poses but if you can find a model, apply an official animation to it, get a decent angle, get some good lighting, I think it's fine and it's better than a t-posed model, since an animated model tells you more about the subject than a bind pose one.
:::Here are some renders by me by the way
<gallery>
File:Small Mario (render) - Super Mario 3D World.png
File:Small Luigi (render) - Super Mario 3D World.png
File:Small Peach (render) - Super Mario 3D World.png
File:Small Toad (render) - Super Mario 3D World.png
File:Small Rosalina (render) - Super Mario 3D World.png
File:Mario Idle (Super Mario 3D World).webp
File:Conkdor Idle.webp
File:Motor Scooter SMO render.png
File:Jaxi Render SMO.png
File:SMO Jaxi Statue Render.png
File:Little Bird SMO render.png
</gallery>
:::{{User:Mario/sig}} 14:06, November 4, 2023 (EDT)

== Game & Watch ==

Is it okay if we cut down the Game & Watch content to just the Game & Watch Gallery pages and ''Super Mario'' appearances? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 16:48, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
:I believe we have a proposal that dealt with this.[https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/58#Trim_extraneous_Game_.26_Watch_coverage] {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:49, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
::Yeah, I think the consensus was that only the ''Super Mario'' aspects get covered? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 16:51, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
:::I believe so! Just review the proposal before you proceed, but don't be afraid to enact changes! We'll correct it later down the line if there are any mistakes. [[File:WC98 Mario V-sign.png]] {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:13, November 4, 2023 (EDT)
::::Okay, I believe it's done now. Thank you for your help! [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 17:19, November 6, 2023 (EST)
I think it's time to change [[MarioWiki:Navigation templates#Series-wide templates]] to remove the "(which is both console- and series-based)" exception to Game & Watch. That will allow me to split the template into one for the console and another one for the ''Gallery'' series.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 01:03, November 5, 2023 (EDT)
:I did it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:09, November 5, 2023 (EDT)
::You were suppose to delete the words in parentheses.--[[User:Platform|Platform]] ([[User talk:Platform|talk]]) 01:33, November 5, 2023 (EDT)
:::Mama mia. I fixed it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:10, November 5, 2023 (EST)

== [[:File:Morocon model SMBW.png]] ==

Seeing as you're occupied with exporting custom renders from Mario Wonder for the wiki, would you please give this one a fix when you can? The current render meshes the character's separate forms and it's kind of unacceptable to have it around in this state on an encyclopedia. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 19:07, November 5, 2023 (EST)
:Sure. You have to pay me in a dead Wario though. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:17, November 5, 2023 (EST)
::...OK, fine. I asked him to show off some WWE moves [[Chill Bully|over a freezing pond]]. Here's a classified morgue shot. Good enough? <br>[[File:Vampire Wario DM64 icon.png|100px]]{{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 19:32, November 5, 2023 (EST)
:::It's a deal.
:::[[File:Sonic with mario pose 2.png|200px]]
:::{{User:Mario/sig}} 19:35, November 5, 2023 (EST)
::::The deed is done!🍿 Enjoy your renders while I enjoy staring at this Wario in morgue while I eat popcorn. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:43, November 6, 2023 (EST)
:::::Muchas gracias! {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:48, November 6, 2023 (EST)

==Level pages==
So I realized that some of the level pages have an excessive number of tables. If you'd like to take a look, I redid the [[Jungle Hijinxs (Donkey Kong Country)|Jungle Hijinxs]] page, and took inspiration from the [[Smiley Flower]] locations on some of the ''[[Yoshi's New Island]]'' pages. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 17:19, November 6, 2023 (EST)
:MediaWiki galleries are desiged to suit images and need to be flexible to various screen widths, which means they could stretch over long horizontal distances on wider screens. Captions are supposed to complement these images, but don't quite form the focus of a gallery; textual information should otherwise be uniformly conveyed and organized in a vertically-flowing manner, and that's best done through any other MediaWiki function designed around that need, such as a table. I fail to see how the tables on that page are excessive; the same thing can be said about the gallery format, which additionally does a less-than-ideal job at handling relatively great amounts of text. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 17:44, November 6, 2023 (EST)
::IMO tables are better suited for great amount of information that galleries would compress. However, the table isn't best suited for simpler lists. Rule of thumb: if a list or gallery is sufficient to convey information, it's preferred over a table. Advantages include much more straightforward code to construct the information, and the information is easier to edit.. A gallery is much better suited for enemy counts, item counts, and KONG letters since the information is relatively straightforward. The final part of the page should probably be converted to prose; the bonus levels section has no reason to be in a gallery when prose with an accompanying screenshot and separating <nowiki><br clear=all></nowiki> appear sufficient. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:54, November 6, 2023 (EST)
:::Would it be okay to restore the older revision, but with the Bonus Levels made into prose? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 17:58, November 6, 2023 (EST)
::::We will need to come to an agreement with Koopa con Carne or get a consensus from editors. {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:22, November 11, 2023 (EST)
:::::I decided to try something on the [[Bramble Scramble (Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest)]] article, seeing as it's featured, where I converted the enemies, items, and objects (which I separated from items) into a gallery, but as I clarified in the summary, I left the tables with descriptions, like Bonus Area, because I think that's where the disagreement occurred. The items are all together, whether KONG, required, or regular items, because they had previously been scattered. "Secrets," which had previously been the heading, is too subjective of a term. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 12:33, November 24, 2023 (EST)
::::::Yeah, the galleries look better. The tables should be turned into a paragraph or a list, and the accompanying images be part of another gallery. The key items, including KONG letters, should be a list. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:58, November 24, 2023 (EST)
:::::::Okay, I updated it. Did I do it correctly? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 15:12, November 24, 2023 (EST)
::::::::[[File:WC98 Mario V-sign.png]]  This seems like the way to go. {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:15, November 24, 2023 (EST)
I didn't reply because I'm mostly in agreement with LGM on this, though I still prefer the table approach with text-heavy content, like Bonus Area and DK Coin information, albeit only when there are screenshots to accompany each entry. In Bramble Scramble's case, not all such content (i.e. the KONG letters) has accompanying screenshots, so the way Game Gear handled that page is the best it can be for the time being. {{User:Koopa con Carne/Sig}} 14:36, November 29, 2023 (EST)

==Daisy Images==
''continued from [[User_talk:TimonLeslieBerkowitz#Daisy_pngs]]''

I got the images from a twitter thread that pointed out pretty plainly that they were cropped from the same video sourced when I uplaoded them. I don't personally see any alterations outside of the fact they were cropped out of the background of the video. I didn't do the original cropping or editing, but I'm aware the MarioWiki is filled with artwork not available in its original quality that has taken the same steps to make it more presentable. I think whatever changes were made must've been to accomadte for the fact it isn't in an original quality. Whatever alterations are present seem to me to have been done in an effort to provide it in a form more accurate to the original intention. It was also properly tagged with needing the original quality still, so anyone looking at it would know it wasn't a full representation of the uncomprimised original which remains unavailable. I think it should be obvious my uploading of these was done in good faith, and I don't even think anyone would've had a problem with this art had someone else uploaded it. I didn't do anything to this art, but I find the things you've pointed out that whoever cropped it must've done were again to present it as it was intended to be seen and shouldn't be getting scrutinized like this. This also has nothing to do with when I uplaoded previous artwork without a source because these were very openly sourced and do not appear to be tampered with in the degree that is being suggested. I won't bother trying to provide the wiki with new content in this regard because I don't care to carry the burden of unjustified scrutiny and I'm sure it would've ended up on here at some point without such ridiculous levels of policing as a ton of the artwork already on here has. [[User:TimonLeslieBerkowitz|TimonLeslieBerkowitz]] ([[User talk:TimonLeslieBerkowitz|talk]]) 16:17, November 22, 2023 (EST)
:Twitter/X is ''not'' a reliable site to be getting apparent official images due to its high prevalence of misinformation on there, hence why I advise great caution getting any assets from that site that isn't directly from an official account (which can be even more difficult to ascertain because of how easily impersonated accounts are). As I've explained, the image you uploaded is not merely cropped; the colors were changed (her hair is noticeably darker, her shadows are darker, her dress is more saturated; it looks like a histogram change) and there's visible sharpening around the eyes. The scale of the cropped image is also higher scale but still low-resolution. I also noticed a bit a of a squiggle at the hem of the dress which also suggests a paintover. Either way, the image is tampered with, and we recommend to find the original source of the image and get the image from this source rather than any content on Twitter/X besides the official handles. You also need to demonstrate how the Daisy image from the video itself requires the edits prior to uploading. I do not believe there is enough evidence that the coloration in the original video is a mistake. We have dealt with edited Daisy renders for quite some time on this wiki, such as [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:MarioParty8DM.png this case] ([https://www.mariowiki.com/File:MarioParty8DM.png?action=history see edit history]) where the uploader ALSO edited Daisy's face including but not limited to thinning her jaws ([https://www.mariowiki.com/images/archive/d/dc/20100129054747%21MarioParty8DM.png edit]; [https://www.mariowiki.com/images/d/dc/MarioParty8DM.png?04633 actual render]), and we don't want to be a host to these tampered images that are easily mistaken for official art, hence some editors bring up concerns about tampered renders and vector art and whatnot. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:37, November 22, 2023 (EST)

== History of Wario ==

I wanted to say some things about the [[History of Wario]] article (or any History pages, for that matter). Even though it's split, History of Wario is still over the [[MarioWiki:Article size|article size]] limit (100,000 bytes), as well as History of Mario. For one, I removed the ''[[Yoshi's Island DS]]'' section, because it's already covered in the background, and I got rid of the Subspace Emissary subheading. What are some other ways to improve the article? Do the history pages need to be split again? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 09:16, November 25, 2023 (EST)
:In the future we will look at other candidates (Super Mario series may need another split in Mario's case) but I want to dust around this to settle first. Also, Wario's page may have too many images so try to figure out which ones you think illustrate the character's history and which one should probably go. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:53, November 25, 2023 (EST)

== BJAODN article for Junior (II) ==

I just finished a BJAODN article for [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Junior (II)|Junior (II)]]. Could you please add the article to the "Complete 'articles'" section of [[MarioWiki:BJAODN|the main BJAODN page]]? [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 16:16, November 25, 2023 (EST)
:Should be done. End of an era. Please allow me a moment of silence for our fallen comrade.
:[[File:MarioloseMP8.png]]
:{{User:Mario/sig}} 16:36, November 25, 2023 (EST)

== Deletion request ==

Hi Mario! Sorry to bother you, but can you please delete these two images I uploaded? I already asked [[User:BBQ Turtle|BBQ Turtle]] this message on their talk page, but I don't think they got it. Would it be okay for me to delete that message?

Anyway, the images I need deleted are File:MLPFIM Trixie.jpg and File:SMRPG Golden Belome statue.jpg. The first one is a personal image that I accidentally uploaded in JPEG format. I need that deleted so I can upload the image in PNG format for transparency. The second image is a duplicate image of the Golden Belome statue that I had no idea was already uploaded. Thank you! {{User:Sparks/sig}} November 26, 2023, 17:17 (EDT)
:[[File:WC98 Mario V-sign.png]] It's done! Thank you. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:20, November 26, 2023 (EST)
::You're welcome! And thank you for deleting those images. {{User:Sparks/sig}} November 26, 2023, 17:21 (EDT)

== Item tables ==

What's your opinion on item tables? I know you said you like to use tables in minimal circumstances as possible, which I agree with. On the [[Koopa Cruiser]] article, I converted the items table to list form. Come to think of it, I could maybe readd the sprites, but the specific locations were why I didn't do gallery form like with the Donkey Kong level pages. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 12:59, November 28, 2023 (EST)
:I think a table works fine here but I'd personally design tables in a way to avoid colspans/rowspans in the middle of the table all together IMO. {{User:Mario/sig}} 01:18, November 29, 2023 (EST)

== 1-Up DX ==

Good point made about tabber. I think I only added it because the images were already all in the infobox. I settled for the most recent sprite in the infobox and put the rest in a gallery. Also, how do you feel about the "List of appearances" section? Do you like it more as a bullet list or as a table? Since the 1-Up DX is an item in all of its appearance, a "Role" colum in the table would be redundant, so I settled upon a bullet list. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 14:09, November 29, 2023 (EST)
:We usually put list of appearances in a table but we usually don't use appearance tables for smaller articles and the information will be redundant mostly anyway (as you said). I suppose list works fine. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:02, November 29, 2023 (EST)
::I think a List of appearances section would especially benefit cases where a subject has incredibly similar roles throughout the series. For example, the [[Diamond]] page, the main role as "collectible items" were consistent in every ''Wario Land'' games, and I think it could all fit together (especially if the subsections previously had like only one or two sentences). For the [[Big Fuzzy]] page, instead of listing "this thing acts the same as before" in every subsection of the ''Super Mario'' series, rather only name it once and list their individual level appearances. The "List of appearances" will fill in the void when the table of contents used to provide the benefit of subsections. I decided not to go for table, but rather clarify Fuzzies as enemies in the ''New Super Mario Bros.'' games and as obstacles in the ''Mario Party'' games. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 10:51, November 30, 2023 (EST)

== Question about a watch. ==

When I got kidnapped(yes, I got back, the details are on my talk page), I had(and still have as of now) a watch that later I found out was made by you, your previous Mariosonas, Bazooka Mario and LeftyGreenMario, and the main universe version of Mario(the plumber, not you), and it, for some reason, contains "everything". What's the deal with that? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 17:05, December 1, 2023 (CST)
:Everything? It must be just my personal belongings that exist on this wiki. Yes it's all digital so I had to mark it with "everything". {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:20, December 1, 2023 (EST)
::Ok, but what about the other stuff? Like your previous Mariosonas, and the main universe version of Mario(the plumber, not you)? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:34, December 2, 2023 (CST)
:::Ah, they're roommates. We kind of try to live our lives on a lot and pay the bills every now and then. Bazooka Mario is a veteran, knows his bombs and all by the way. I have other Mariosonas hanging out too, but they haven't shown their faces fully yet or at least in ways most people on the wiki are aware of... {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:49, December 2, 2023 (EST)
::::It's been a bit, but you know those games, consoles, timeline charts, etc. that were in the same place that I was when I was kidnapped? Somehow they are with me. Also, those Warios, Waluigis, etc. are gone. I don't know how either of those things happened. Do you have any ideas? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 12:09, December 8, 2023 (CST)
:::::The Mario Party games probably scared off all the Warios and Waluigis I think. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:08, December 8, 2023 (EST)
::::::No, I don't think it was the Mario Party games. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 08:14, December 11, 2023 (CST)

== A Free Splounder ==

Congratulations! You've just won a '''free Splounder'''! You have 2 choices: Either you keep it as a pet, or use it as an ingredient for your next dinner. What would you do? (Oh, and btw, this was on  behalf of Wario, who was casually fishing in Donut Plains) [[File:WarioMK64 win.png]] --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 01:45, December 2, 2023 (EST)[[File:Splounder SM3DW Prima.jpg|thumb|A fish, of which an I.P (which was me) asked for a source for its name, all those years back.]]
:I would never eat that for dinner! Pet it is. I'd definitely save this FROM Wario, it doesn't know better about WHO fished it up after all. Can it talk? Boy, I hope it talks. And speaking of talking I ''did'' respond to you in that talk page it means! {{User:Mario/sig}} 03:04, December 2, 2023 (EST)
::Well, [https://youtu.be/6Q6qHRHTTPg?feature=shared of course it does]! It even spoke to my Yoshi folks the other day. Btw, i DID see your response in ''that'' talk page, which is why i'm telling you specifically about it. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 03:35, December 2, 2023 (EST)
:::By the way, Wario wasn't the only one to have proposed "dinner" as an option for the helpless fish's fate. Wendy and guest star Usapyon agreed on this too! Thankfully enough, me and my Yoshi clan took care of them. While they mostly took "care" of Wario, i went for Wendy and Usapyon (emphasis on Usapyon) out of pure spite. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 05:33, December 2, 2023 (EST)
::::Mama mia! How foul. What did you Yoshis do? Hopefully that'll teach them a lesson on eating those Splounders. Especially that nasty bunny! Bad! {{User:Mario/sig}} 23:44, December 2, 2023 (EST)
:::::Oh, the other Yoshies somehow managed to strap Wario to a tree, and repeatedly beat him with a bat until his grown-ass cried for mommy XD. As for me, i don't wanna mention what i did to Wendy, but i'll say, i was incensed beyond belief while taking care of Usapyon. Although the "eating the Splounder" part did contribute to it, please read the reasons of my hatred of this bunny on FOR2007's talk page. You probably won't take me seriously, but here. XD --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 04:38, December 3, 2023 (EST)

== Re: History section splits ==

Ah, okay. I will stop while the split discussion talk to be resolved. Thank you for the heads up! {{User:Derekblue1/sig}} 01:14, December 3, 2023 (EST)
: To add, I was surprised I did not pay attention to the new policy change that happened while I was splitting histories. That brings up another question, I know now 150kB is a definite split for articles. Take for example, [[Toad (species)]], it is 2kB above 150kB, is it still worth splitting an article with a small difference? {{User:Derekblue1/sig}} 03:22, December 13, 2023 (EST)

== Model/render request ==

Hi there! I'm a big fan of your work here, especially the custom renders you've done! I have a request that I thought might be in your wheelhouse, ''if you are interested and whenever you might have time'', involving Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Being totally unfamiliar with your process for ripping in-game models/renders (really just the process in general), I'm not sure if the tools that you use are applicable for that game or not, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask!

The Rocky Wrenches in MK8D (specifically, the ones that appear in [[Tour Rome Avanti]]) have a model that seems to be brand new and, for the first time since NSMBW, actually resembles the original design from Mario 3. They've got the long white claws, the pointy snout, and even '''the black shell''' (I'm kind of obsessed if you couldn't tell lol)! The problem is, it's really hard to get all these distinct features across via in-game screenshot, especially because Rome has dark lighting and the RWs are only fully visible for a couple seconds at a time. I thought a clean render of the model would, if nothing else, make for a great addition to the gallery section of Rocky Wrench's page, so that these adjustments from the standard modern design made can be better documented on the wiki! I have... no idea how to access that, but I thought, with your previous work on the wiki, you might be able to get one.

Sincere apologies if this comes off as rude, and feel free to ignore if this isn't something you are interested in working on! Or, if you know of any other wiki members/staff who might be interested in this, please let me know. Thank you for your time :)
{{User:Okapi}} 04:48, December 4, 2023 (EST)
:[[File:Club Nintendo Classic SMB2 01.png|70px]]
:Hello, thank you for your positive comment, it's very kind of you. Yes, Switch Toolbox, the program used for extracting Super Mario Bros. Wonder files, is more than capable of extracting files from Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (for the record I have also extracted model and texture assets from Super Mario Odyssey, New Super Mario Bros. Deluxe, Super Mario Party, Mario Party Superstars, and Mario Tennis Aces, and Super Mario 3D World: Bowser's Fury. I haven't extracted from Super Rush yet, but it should be able to. Mario & Sonic Tokyo 2020 can also be extracted, but you need decompile scripts for Sonic games to a useable format. I have also used it to extract Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash too (and I'm sure there are others I haven't touched on). Super Smash Bros. Ultimate afaik requires other means of extraction. I'm not sure about the other games like Luigi's Mansion 3 and Battle League, either I haven't tried to extract it or other people have mixed results (for instance Luigi's Mansion 3 has a broken rig afaik and Battle League has gray textures people weren't figuring out what to do with at the time, but this may be old news). Yes, I expect the files for Rocky Wrench are able to be extracted with a rig and with useable textures and an animation. There are detailed guides on how to extract files actually and they just require reading instructions carefully.

:My only issue right now is that the models are part of an update which I haven't gotten around to installing on my computer (I generally just find these online these days because it's more convenient than updating files and dumping them onto an SD card) but once I do I'll get back. My other issue is that I need to continue rendering enemy images from Super Mario Bros. Wonder; I've done a pause on it due to people bringing up questions on the legitimacy on having these images on the wiki (they can be easily mistaken for official art) and I believe we since have a green light on them. If I take too long on the files you can also try to see if {{user|Rodmjorgeh}}, who rendered a lovely [[Torpedo Ted]] ([[:File:Torpedo Ted - NSMBU (render).png|image]]), is active and message them on this matter. 

:Thank you, and take care! 💖 {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:22, December 4, 2023 (EST)

== Hello! ==

Hi! Just dropping by to say thanks for being so friendly to me. I very much appreciate it. And also, may I be your friend, or is it too early for that? We've had a few interactions and we both feel the same way about Wario, so I thought I'd give it a shot. If you want to be friends, I give you permission to copy my userbox code (posted on my userpage). Either way, thank you so much! 

Also, here's a couple pictures for you (no Warios, I promise):

[[File:Rosalina SSB4 Artwork - WhiteRed.jpg|200px]] [[File:Yoshi (Thank You) - Super Mario Sticker.gif|200px]]

1: Happy holidays from Rosalina!

2: Thank you!!

I hope you have a merry Christmas and a happy New Year! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 13:16, December 9, 2023 (EST)
:Thank you for your kind message. Sure you can be a friend of "Mario" or something. You'll have some more Wario agony pictures coming too! {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:12, December 11, 2023 (EST)
::Okay, thanks so much! I give you permission to copy my userbox code and paste it into your userbox (if you want to, that is). The code can be found on my userpage. I look forward to more Wario agony pictures. Have a great day! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 09:20, December 12, 2023 (EST)
:::Do you have a friend userbox? I forgot to ask you that earlier. If you do, could you provide me with its code so that I may post it in my userbox tower? By the way, I destroyed Wario recently in a Ballon Battle in MK8 Deluxe; he got 11th place (he was tied with Waluigi. They make a lovely couple, don't they?). Just wanted to keep you posted on my Wario-destroying escapades. Thank you for your time! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 15:02, December 17, 2023 (EST)
::::I used to have one but I think I don't really distribute these as much. I'll cook one up and I'll get back. It was really funny you killed Wario in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Did you take advantage of his spawn points and predict when his invincibility frames will expire? {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:17, December 17, 2023 (EST)
:::::Yeah, a couple times. He somehow got 3 points in the last battle despite my best efforts, but I can't be perfect. Please share that userbox code with me whenever it's convenient. Thanks! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 22:35, December 18, 2023 (EST)

== Something that might interest you... ==

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtEPAu8f7Bg I stumbled upon this while scrolling through my Youtube home page recommandations, hope you like it!] <s>(unrelated, go check how the "Yoshi's present" thing got resolved!)</s> --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 09:54, December 10, 2023 (EST)
:Wario saw the [[List of Mario Party: The Top 100 minigames]] page didn't he? {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:55, December 14, 2023 (EST)

== Question about history splits ==

I know now 150kB is a definite split for articles. Take for example, [[Toad (species)]], it is 2kB above 150kB, is it still worth splitting an article with a small difference? {{User:Derekblue1/sig}} 07:01, December 13, 2023 (EST)
:I recommend not relying too much on simple quantity of the article and instead figuring out if the current page is so big it's impacting usability the way Mario and Bowser's pages were. Try to cut down the article first, such as reducing the amount of images, and try to see if the resulting split page is substantial (Mario's and Bowser's were, it might not be the case for Toad (species). {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:54, December 14, 2023 (EST)

== Additions to the non-''Super Mario'' content BJAODN page ==

Currently, you've been doing some work on the BJAODN pages. Since you're an administrator, I'd like for you to retrieve two deleted pages for the [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Non-Super Mario content|Non-''Super Mario'' content]] page: [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=SIRI SIRI] to get the full description rather than just what's shown in the deletion log, and [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&page=Puffy_the_Puffball Puffy the Puffball], if it's funny enough. Thank you. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 22:21, December 14, 2023 (EST)
:[[File:WC98 Mario V-sign.png]] I added it! Well, I made some minor hiccups here and there, so bear with me! The only criteria is really just "a user found it funny", so I added it. Feel free to comment on them. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:31, December 14, 2023 (EST)
::Thank you! And no problem — it was easy enough for me to move them to [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Non-Super Mario content|Non-''Super Mario'' content]]. Are you able to restore the images on Puffy the Puffball, as well? [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 22:36, December 14, 2023 (EST)

== VB question ==

I was issued a reminder on my talk page for removing a section on the Virtual Boy article largely unrelated to ''Super Mario'' (the production section) and was told that not having it would be "unprofessional." I realize the graphics and commercial failure has some connection to ''Super Mario'', but for detailed technical history on Virtual Boy, I'd more expect to read about it on Wikipedia or NintendoWiki. What's your opinion on having the section? [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 18:29, December 15, 2023 (EST)
:I'm not sure if a reminder was apt but when it doubt, do bring up major changes you're willing to make on the article talk page. Here[https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Virtual_Boy&diff=4066293&oldid=4019623] should've been the cue to take it to either the talk page of the article or with the user that's disputing your edits. The content you're removing wasn't ''too'' off-topicy by being excessively detailed IMO so it's fine if it stays. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:27, December 15, 2023 (EST)

== Mario Party gone wrong ==

Remember the time i gave you a free Splounder? Well, this isn't the first time where the Yoshi clan had to reason with Wario. I can't help but recount the instance where he mentioned a specific November challenge in front of [[History of Yoshi#Super Mario World television series|a younger Yoshi]]: [https://imgur.com/C14bXPB CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF!]The older Yoshi was clearly not having it, but Wario reacted with his usual dismissive attitude. Hell, we had to tell the young Yoshi that it was "a game where you can't eat peanuts during a whole month" to salvage the situation... After the game ended, the Yoshi clan had a "friendly" conversation with Wario about the situation. --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 11:52, December 29, 2023 (EST)
:I had no idea Wario also knew what "No Nut November" was. Or any Mario character for that matter. I don't think such a concept would exist in the universe. {{User:Mario/sig}} 00:44, January 2, 2024 (EST)

== number of images in article sections ==

Hello, I remember you took away some images in the [[Goomba]] article due to an overabundance of them, and it made me think of a precedent. When scrolling down, I feel the [[Squawks]] article has a few images too many, so if I spot an overabundance of images, am I allowed to remove them (and relocate to gallery)? I go by the idea of: 1) does the image show or compare any prominent difference than seen earlier? and 2) is it focused on the subject? On Squawks article, the ''Donkey Kong Country: Rumble in the Jungle'' image focuses on three of the Kongs and Squawks, not Squawks solely whilst the ''Club Nintendo'' comic illustrates a particular point of him meeting the Kongs. The DKC3 screenshot has a similar purpose as the DKC2 screenshot, just in a different level setting. One could say he's not carrying Diddy and Dixie, but that's also possible in the original DKC2. Then in the DKC Returns section, it shows Squawks' artwork for said game, something that's already done within the infobox, just with a different artwork. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 14:35, January 2, 2024 (EST)
:I don't think the article has an awful ton of images to the point I'd remove some. I would probably change or remove the art of Squawks holding a lantern but only because the infobox leaves little room for it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:41, January 3, 2024 (EST)

== Luigi in the Mario lookalikes category ==

It was pretty much agreed upon in my proposal that Luigi, Wario and Waluigi shouldn't include the respective lookalikes categories, so I would like to remove it from Luigi's article again. {{User:Swallow/sig}} 06:21, January 3, 2024 (EST)
:I'd claim that Luigi would technically qualify in the proposal's provisions,[https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/64#Rework_the_.22lookalikes.22_categories] that the categories should concern "[...]solely on subjects that are actual copies or clones of these characters such as Dark Bowser or Dreamy Mario." Luigi started out as a clone, albeit a named clone, but from a gameplay perspective, a clone for multiplayer. I'm reviewing what's currently in [[:Category:Mario lookalikes]]. He could be in a similar vein as [[Prince Mushroomkhamen]], where both are, for all intents and purposes, a kind of Mario, but were given names to distinguish themselves. Same goes for [[Giuseppe]], who isn't a cloned/copied Mario and doesn't even exactly look like Mario, just a resemblance to Jumpman. The proposal seems currently in effect, but if not I think you either remove some of these different characters that "happen" to look like Mario, limit them to just direct copies and clones such as Shadow Mario, Cosmic Mario, Metal Mario, and Dreamy Mario, or you include Luigi. It's otherwise not entirely clear to me why Giuseppe but not Luigi, but perhaps there's a good reason. {{User:Mario/sig}} 20:39, January 3, 2024 (EST)
::I do think "second-player palette swap who later diverged into his own character that can't really be considered a lookalike nowadays" and "reference to Mario's original design who talks with Mario's original game voice" are apples and oranges, but if we do exclude Giuseppe, we should exclude [[Red (Super Paper Mario)|Red]] and [[Green]] as well. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 21:59, January 3, 2024 (EST)
:::I know Luigi ''in general'' I wouldn't consider to be a Mario lookalike but in the context of his early appearances, he seems to qualify? If the newer games didn't exist, if Luigi hadn't developed into his own character, if Luigi remained a Green Mario in promotional material, he'd probably be in this category. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:51, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::::That's a good point, but that's not the reality we're living in. If we're counting Luigi as a lookalike based on only ''some'' of his appearances, I don't think he should be in the category at all. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:33, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:::::As a wiki, though, we do appear to take past categorization into consideration. It's why Birdo is classified as a "bird" despite no modern media stating so, Mario was categorized as a villain despite his role being in even less games (before the category was deleted) than Luigi clonery (Mario's categorized under "king" and "pirate" too), or why the Rocky Wrench is a, uh, well, a Koopa and a Mole uh, well... and we got into debate over ''that''. {{User:Mario/sig}} 16:58, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::::::Ah, guess I was thinking too much from Camwoodstock's opinion and Swallow's recent redefinition of the elemental creature categories... :P I know it sounds ridiculous to have a proposal on whether or not a single article should be included in a single category, but it might be something to consider. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 18:39, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:::::::It's okey-dokey. You brought up valid points, which I didn't mind having to think about. I can see your interpretation of it.  {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:23, January 6, 2024 (EST)

== Japanese game covers ==

I was disappointed that the proposer canceled the proposal about showing more than one game cover in the game infobox templates. I saw someone say they think it could be narrowed to Japanese game cover, which makes sense since ''Super Mario'' is a Japanese franchise. I added in Famicom game cover in [[Super Mario Bros.]] (without tabber because that conflicts with the proposal) and explained myself in the edit summary. I hadn't seen any opposition to my decision. Was this okay? I was given an informal reminder that I was changing too much, so I hope this wasn't a violation of that. It's hard to know the fine line between what's changing too much and what isn't, but I'm assuming it's applying a change on a multitude of articles in a set. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 13:00, January 5, 2024 (EST)
:No. We have to be selective in the game infobox templates. You don't need to add more. People who want to see alternate game boxes should view the gallery, which is a more appropriate place for all the separate boxes. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:01, January 5, 2024 (EST)
::Okay, I removed them. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 13:04, January 5, 2024 (EST)

== Your talk page has been invaded by Wario!! ==

[[File:Wario Artwork - Mario Kart Wii.png|150px]]

A Wario from Mario Kart Wii has heard of how you keep destroying his buddies, and he has had enough. I tried to stop him, but he got in here anyway. Shoot him with an item before he wreaks too much havoc and destroys your talk page with a Mega Mushroom! Your choice of items are: Blue Shell (recommended, but it might miss), Green Shell, Red Shell, or a Bob-omb. -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 16:13, January 5, 2024 (EST)
:I'm gonna have to go with Bob-Omb. I have enough confidence it'll work this time, and besides, I might get to hear Wario go OWAAAAHHH or something stupid. Since this is the Mario Kart Wii Wario, I'll likely hear an angry WAAAAHHHH! [[Blue Shell]]s only freeze Wario, and that's no fun! {{User:Mario/sig}} 12:41, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::[[File:MK7 Yoshi.png]] Yoshi to the rescue! This shell is no ordinary red shell, it's actually twice as explosive as a Bob Omb! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:59, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:::Ah, it must be a [[Black Shell]], but Yoshi painted it red to fool the Warios into thinking a simple banana will do the trick. Smart. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:13, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::::Congratulations! You blew this Wario into oblivion! His Mega Mushroom didn't work because of the combined power of the Bob-omb and the disguised Black Shell (and the Wario was too stupid to use his Mega Mushroom after the items hit him). Disaster averted! And as a bonus, Rosalina blew up the entire [[Wario's Gold Mine]] track with a superpowered Blue Shell so that no more Warios could get here until they rebuild the course (if they have enough brainpower to do so). In any case, the Warios won't be able to come back for a while, which was the goal. -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 21:08, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:::::Oh, that made the front news. In honor of the events, I believe the race track is remade. However, it's now called {{fake link|Gold Mine (formerly Wario's Gold Mine)}} and will be open to the public. Killing Wario helps everyone! {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:22, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::::::Ooh, neat! And that means that there will be no more nasty Warios to hog the gold that might be found on and around the track. I might take a lap or two around the new track! See you around! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 12:02, January 7, 2024 (EST)

== Love the username ==

I hadn't said this yet, but I really like your username. It has a simple charm to it and directly states the main character of the ''Super Mario'' franchise: Mario himself. There were a few times where I almost thought you were a bureaucrat here, to be honest. [[User:Super Game Gear|Super Game Gear]] ([[User talk:Super Game Gear|talk]]) 09:16, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:I did go by it several years ago, but this one is like an extended April Fools joke from 2023, but I don't really want to change it even after a year of waiting. Anyhow I think it's amusing that Mario's a sysop on MarioWiki. It's like Master Hand being a sysop on SmashWiki or Kirby being a sysop on WiKirby. I'm not quite a bureaucrat, but I've been active here since like late 2009 so my experience shows. Believe it or not, I haven't gotten patroller until like 2022. {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:02, January 6, 2024 (EST)
::I'd like to chime in: You're perfect enough to become a bureaucrat, if you want my two cents! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:27, January 6, 2024 (EST)
:::Yes... it would be quite the wiki if the namesake was a 'crat of it. {{User:Mario/sig}} 17:25, January 6, 2024 (EST)

== Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: Anti-Wario edition ==

[[File:MK8D Boomerang Flower.gif]]

As if [[Smash and Crab]] wasn't enough, [[Pink Shy Guy]] has made it his mission to further ruin Wario's day! Will Wario ever catch a break with me around?! {{User:Sparks/sig}} 17:32, January 7, 2024 (EDT)
:MEOW! Goes Pink Shy Guy. I've modded my Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. I cannot unhear Wario's WOAH!!!![https://youtu.be/WZerOzOPXKk?si=co3co4rrtqIBEc7k&t=11] every time I see this gif. 😆 Did he lose all his balloons eventually? {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:51, January 8, 2024 (EST)
::At one point he did. I was originally going to do a Green Shell/fireball trick shot behind me from the opposite side of the map, but it was too difficult to pull off. I eventually got the Boomerang Flower and showcased its insane range capabilities. {{User:Sparks/sig}} 13:22, January 9, 2024 (EDT)

== Concerning Sprites. ==

Are you able to make sprites? If not, do you know anyone who does? {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:21, January 9, 2023 (CST)
:I've made a couple of sprites but I don't consider myself a spriter really. {{User:Mario/sig}} 19:41, January 9, 2024 (EST)
::Ok. {{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} 11:24, March 10, 2023 (CST)

== Concerning a userbox ==

I just realized while looking at your userbox tower that you have a userbox that looks just like one of mine! It's the one that says "This user destroys Wario, and enjoys doing so." Did you copy that from my userbox tower? If so, I'm flattered! And it's okay, you can keep it there if you want. I don't mind at all. -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 19:44, January 12, 2024 (EST)
:Yeah I did use it because it was very anti-Wario and goes nicely with the rest of the anti-Wario userboxes I've made over the course of my activity on MarioWiki. {{User:Mario/sig}} 00:56, January 13, 2024 (EST)
::Okay, cool. And I have a question: I added Rosalina's Mario Party Superstars bio to her [[List of Rosalina profiles and statistics#Mario Party Superstars|profiles and statistics page]] today. I didn't know whether I should have tried to add a picture to go along with it, because the Encyclopedia has an image of her on her profile page. Should someone upload that image to add to the page, or is what I put fine on its own? Thanks! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 22:23, January 13, 2024 (EST)
:::If you don't see it, then you should upload it yourself. Remember, be the change you want to see in the wiki. {{User:Mario/sig}} 22:48, January 13, 2024 (EST)
::::Okay, I uploaded an image and added it to the page. Thanks for the advice, and have a great day! -- {{User:FanOfRosalina2007/sig}} 21:32, January 15, 2024 (EST)

== Music score ==

Hello, Mario. I am playing ''Super Princess Peach'' and I saw there is no article for a music score. If you do not mind an article being created, what name do you think should be the official article name? Two names are '''Music score (Super Princess Peach)''' and '''Score (Super Princess Peach)'''. I referenced from two quotes: Perry states ''"Did you know that if you collect a lot of '''music scores''', you'll get more and more members? Yeah!"'', and after collecting a music score, the game refers to it as a '''score'''. {{User:Derekblue1/sig}} 06:38, January 15, 2024 (EST)
:I think "music score" is more descriptive. Simply saying "Score" suggests points and whatnot. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:53, January 15, 2024 (EST)

== BJAODN, part 3 ==

Originally suggested by TheUndescribableGhost, I've launched a [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Fanon|fanon category for BJAODN]]. Could you please add it to the Collections section on [[MarioWiki:BJAODN|the main BJAODN page]], between [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Enemies|Enemies]] and [[MarioWiki:BJAODN/Games|Games]]? Thanks. [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 12:52, January 20, 2024 (EST)
:[[File:Club Nintendo Classic SMB2 01.png|70px]] {{User:Mario/sig}} 13:52, January 20, 2024 (EST)
::Thank you! [[User:SolemnStormcloud|SolemnStormcloud]] ([[User talk:SolemnStormcloud|talk]]) 14:49, January 20, 2024 (EST)

== Status ==

Okay, I've been working on quite a number of developments on the wiki lately.

For one, I'm making effort to get rid of the tabber template outside of the approved cases. I've just finished removing it from all of the DKC levels.

Secondly, I've been creating various templates to display the data more conveniently. The List of Mario profiles and statistics page, for instance, had a lot of outdated markup, particularly in the ''Baseball'' and ''Smash Bros.'' sections. Still has to be sorted by order. I've also created template for conveniently displaying trophy data around a few Super Smash Bros. games. I hated the red and light blue backgrounds all over the Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U tables, and thankfully they're now gone.

Third, a few of the templates I made invoke the use of two languages, particularly {{tem|DK64 German website character}} (for the five playable Kongs in DK64 only) and {{tem|PEGMCE profile}} (for links in ''[[Perfect Edition of the Great Mario Character Encyclopedia]]'').

Fourth, the {{tem|SMG2 boss}} template inspired me to start making quick reference templates for bosses in other games. Like {{tem|DK boss}}, for example. Allows for quick reference, like how many hits the boss takes, which boss comes next in sequential order, and a few parameters that wouldn't fit into {{tem|character infobox}}, like boss level name and world name. I think in general, templates like these could help with issues, like I think a Mario 64 location one needs to made to resolve issues with sections like this: [[Bob-omb Battlefield#Statistics_from_Super_Mario_64]]. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 14:59, January 20, 2024 (EST)
:Seems like you're all over the place. I recommend you focus on a particular area in case you run across disagreements. For instance, your efforts on tabber have been comprised of you and others undoing your work, so you want to avoid committing to big changes that you don't know if the community necessarily agrees to. {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:04, January 22, 2024 (EST)
::Good point, which is why I put a list of them on my user page to help me keep track. I finished the DK64 German website character profiles for the five Kongs, for example. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 11:26, January 23, 2024 (EST)

== another template idea ==

First of all, thank you to you and the staff team for lowering the warning tier. Secondly, may I create a consistent wikitable template for the "List of appearances" sections? It's on many articles, and I've seen some inconsistencies like column width, some columns titled "Release date," others saying something like "Year of release." Then some say "Summary" whilst other column equivalents say "Role." [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:42, February 9, 2024 (EST)
:It's probably beneficial to do that. We do need to standardize the wikitable template. I've personally followed [[Wiggler#List_of_appearances]]. That being said, I'm not sure if we need to list the format the appearance is on. Also, we probably will need to consider appearances in other media, such as cartoons, movies, etc.. While it's a video game centric wiki, we probably need to include appearances on Mario media (we probably should leave out cameos outside of MarioWiki coverage, that'll easily clutter the table). {{User:Mario/sig}} 15:46, February 9, 2024 (EST)
::I was considering separate templates to fulfill such a purpose. I didn't think one could fully integrate the functionality of the Cite template into a single one, for instance, but they managed to prove it's possible (really glad we have that template now, since I wanted professional citation format for a while now). The other media appearances one is tough, and such a section hasn't been standardized. I'm thinking a format like this if a "List of appearances" section has more media:

<pre>
==List of appearances==
===Video games===

===Television and films===

===Manga===
</pre>

[[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 15:56, February 9, 2024 (EST)

:Okay, I've made {{tem|appearances list}}. I decided to add an automatic number parameter since I saw it on Waluigi's List of appearances section. [[User:Super Mario RPG|Super Mario RPG]] ([[User talk:Super Mario RPG|talk]]) 13:06, February 10, 2024 (EST)

== Removal of physical description for the Swordfighter Peach article ==

Hey, I noticed that you removed the physical description section for all the Princess Peach: Showtime transformation articles except the one for Swordfighter Peach, so can you do me a favor and remove that one as well?
[[Special:Contributions/104.28.55.219|104.28.55.219]]
:It's been done. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:08, February 24, 2024 (EST)

==Question regarding unique signature==
Hello. I was just curious how you were able to make a unique signature with that Mario icon and attach your contributions next to where it says talk. I've been trying to figure that out for myself to have a unique looking signature but I don't know where to look --[[User:KevinM|KevinM]] ([[User talk:KevinM|talk]]) 20:53, February 26, 2024 (EST)
:Please refer to [[MarioWiki:Signatures]] for signature tips. If you wanted to attach an image to your signature, make sure to put |x35px]] after the <nowiki>[[File:IMAGE.png</nowiki>. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 23:20, February 26, 2024 (EST)

Thank you {{User:KevinM/sig}} 01:28, February 27, 2024 (EST)
:You can also study the markup I did for [[User:Mario/sig]]. You'll want to look at this line.
<pre><span style="background-color:#ffe6e6"> [[File:SM64DS Mario Lives Icon.png]] It's me, '''[[User:Mario|<span style="color:#970000">Mario</span>]]'''! ([[User talk:Mario|<span style="color:#000dad;font-family:monospace">Talk</span>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Mario|<span style="color:#4c3e0a;font-family:monospace">Stalk</span>]])</span></pre>
:{{User:Mario/sig}} 21:45, March 2, 2024 (EST)

== Wario's not invited for the Leap Year/Day ==

[[File:WarioLoseParty 7.png]]How do you feel about this? --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 13:43, February 29, 2024 (EST)

<span style="color:red; font-size:2em">HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAH</span>

[[File:Club Nintendo Classic SMB 02.png|300px]]<br>

By the way, GO CHOKE ON THAT INVISIBLE SANDWICH, WARIO.

OH WAIT IT'S NOT INVISIBLE. I JUST STOLE IT FROM YOU. 🥪🥪🥪🥪🥪🥪🥪 

[[File:SMFPB2 Pages 21 22.png|500px]]

Free sandwiches for Mario and friends and NOT Wario! {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:31, March 2, 2024 (EST)

== Shhhh... ==

[[File:MP5WarioModel.png|x300px]]

Wario is sleeping standing up... don't wake him up. {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 04:46, March 3, 2024 (EST)

== Apparently, Wario likes throwing baby penguins off cliffs! ==
[[File:WarioMK64_win.png]][[File:Penguin_model_MRSOH.png|100px]]
Can you believe that? [[Kings|The King]] of [[Ice Land]] (whether it's the one from the NES version, the SNES remake, or [[Penguin King|if he's a penguin himself]]) needs to do something about it! We need spread the word, and ensure it reaches the king of Ice Land himself! --{{User:FanOfYoshi/sig}} 10:24, March 4, 2024 (EST)

== Fix ==

<center>https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wreckitralph/images/f/f2/FFJ.png</center>

He's gonna repair most coverage of the Mario and History of Mario and Wario and History of Wario articles. I really wish he could fix his bad sequel movie, too!

This little Marionesian repairman is cuter than that yellow plumber guy Wario. Wario would get jealous of that blue fixer's adorableness and sweetness, it rots his teeth! {{User:PnnyCrygr/sig}} 16:56, March 4, 2024 (EST)