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{{Welcome2|Prince Ludwig|}}
==Signature==
Everytime you post something on talk page, put "~&#126;~~" at the end. I'm tired on signing your comments. {{User:SWFlash/Sig}}

== "Latest Game Appearance" clarification ==

Hey there, Prince Ludwig -- about the edit you did on the Birdo article -- the "Latest Game Appearance" part of the character infobox was meant to give folks information on what recent '''major''' Mario series (or branched, under Nintendo, of course) installment he or she appeared in (when the game itself in question has just been released). The ''Super Mario All-Stars - 25th Anniversary Edition'' installment is considered to be minor because it's a compilation of remakes from previous installments of the Mario series (SMB, SMB2, SMB3, SMB: LLz) hence why that "appearance" doesn't count in this case. Thanks for understanding. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 15:48, 4 May 2011 (EDT)

==Reminder==
{{reminder|2=Adding speculative info}}
there is no official source that has Yoshi's and Wart meeting so unless you have one don't put it in
{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

==Warning==
{{warning|2=constantly re-adding speculative information}}

The information that you added to the [[Wart]] article is unfounded, and is therefore speculative. You need to stop putting it back in after it has been removed.

{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 13:08, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Re:Speculation?==
"He '''''may''''' have knowledge on the Yoshis." But see, that's just it right there; anytime there is a situation where you have to use words like "may," "maybe," "might," "possibly," etc., that implies speculative information, which is not appropriate to add to articles under any circumstances. However, the legitimacy of the information that you added to the article was not the main concern. You were involved in an edit war, and the next time a situation like that arises (if information you add to an article is called into question by other users), you should bring your concerns up on the talk page of an administrator, as opposed to continually reverting others' edits, as doing so is counterproductive to the wiki.

{{User:Phoenix/sig}} 04:21, 7 May 2011 (EDT)

==Mega Mole==

Official artwork cause it look to blurry to be official artwork {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

Also where did you get that picture from {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

your gonna want to talk to this guy about images http://www.mariowiki.com/User:Coincollector {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

==your edits==

where are you getting your info cause a lot appears to be speculation like calling Birdo, Warts favorite minion where did you get that or is that your own opinion {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

:It's still speculation and they all risked their lives for Wart also the 8-bit club only applies to the Shy Guys, Snifits, and Beezo {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

::I think the 8-bits are like mercenaries and i think it's mentioned somewhere in the original manual that the 8 bit club consists of shy guys, snifits, and beezos, and about birdo your probably right but it's not official so it's prolly best not to mention it in the article {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

== Let's discuss ==

I've added some of my reasons [[Talk: Wart|here]] {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

on the one hand you are right with the images, on the other hand the info placed here is unnecessary. It makes inconsistensy respect to the other articles, the other artciles I've seen has a Cameos section on their histories that only talk their appearances and a brief description of their role in the other series. This one goes too far... {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

Your comment has no explanation. How can you know he moved from Subcon to another Dream, has Wart ever said he lived in another place? No, you can't because you invented it. That's a point of view and speculation of yours, so stop undoing what I've done there because you're wrong. {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

Even so you're wrong... In your text it says he was exiled and went to koholint yadda-yadda... where have you taken that? even the Mamu's page of Zeldawiki doesn't tell something like this. And last, the rest of your info after this was taken from the zeldawiki... that's stealing. Now leave me alone... {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

==Last Warning==
{{lastwarn}}
:For edit warring. {{User:Xzelion/sig}}

==Answer==

First off i hope Xzelion doesnt mind but i'll take a crack at answering this one, it's because you keep inserting edits from unconfirmed soucres despite being told not to do that no one is targeting you just listend to the admins and don't put any more speculative info in articles {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:Because you undid a good faith by an admin, one you swiftly undid. Coincollector had his reasons, reason which followed MarioWiki protocol and policy, you undid it with no real reason other than speculation. Goomba's Shoe15 was only doing what any good users would've done in reverting your edits, and don't pretend you're innocent. This isn't the first time we've had to warn you for edit warring and adding speculative information. I had hoped you would have learned your lesson after last time, but no, you remain unreformed in this department. And '''that''' is why you were warned, not because I'm "picking on you" or because I don't like you, it's because you remain hard-headed in this matter. If someone undoes your edit, talk it to the talk page instead of starting an edit war. The part of it that's worst is in an edit summary you said "Let's not make edit war" so you knew what you were doing was wrong, and you did it anyway. {{User:Xzelion/sig}}
::I don't give a crap who started it, it's ending, one way or another. You weren't "targeted" I gave you the warning per the reason I stated above, and ignorance doesn't excuse your actions. Did I say you were "evil"? No. I said that what Goomba's Shoe did a handful of other users would've done in this case, heck I would've undone your edits if he hadn't already. And just because you were right on one subject, does not make you right on every matter. Also if you're not hard-headed, if you have learned your lesson, then why do you continue this path of action? You can say you've learned your lesson, but until you put those words in action, you're not fooling anyone. {{User:Xzelion/sig}}
:::Do you just stay up at night hunting for articles with speculation in it? And not do anything about? Just so you can hanging over our heads when we warn you about adding speculation? If you find speculation about a subject, bring it up on the blasted talk page or if it's outright speculation remove it. "So now I'm fooling anyone?" What the hell are you talking about? You claimed that you had learned your lesson about edit warring, yet you still continue to do it, and until you stop your constant edit warring... and I said "You're not fooling anyone", as in  no-one is going to believe that you've reformed. And Goomba's Shoe15, did nothing wrong. If a troll vandalizes an article and an user reverts that edit, and they go on and on and on, is that user edit warring? The same standard applies here, your edit is in conflict with our policies, Goomba's Shoe15 did his best to keep the Wiki inline with our policies. {{User:Xzelion/sig}}
::::Look, this is the last time I'm going to respond to you on this subject, we're not getting any where and you just don't seem to understand what I'm saying half the time. "And you know what it means vandalisme?" I'm going to assume that you were trying to ask if I knew what vandalism meant, I hope you know I've been a frequent member of this Wiki Admin team. And that I've block my share of vandals and reverted my share of vandalism in my day. Second of all, did you even read what I said? I never said you were a vandal or that you were vandalizing the wiki, I used that as an example of why Goomba's Shoe15 shouldn't and will not receive a warning for his actions, because he was acting on behalf of the Wiki's policies. When I saw the edit war happen, I decided to warn you because of the reasons I've listed above, and I decided not to warn Goomba's Soe15, once again, because of my reasons above. I stand by those decisions, and it will not change.
::::And stop saying you've "changed" or "learned your lesson", I don't care how many times you say it, you still edit warred again, that itself says enough by your claims. Stop saying you learned your lesson, and show me by your actions that you've changed. {{User:Xzelion/sig}}

==Proof==

the opening cut scene shows Mario being thanked for saving the land of subcon by the king of subcon with the golden statues of mario that is proof that is proof enough that the game took place after Super Mario Bros. 2
{{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

==Block==
Well, I told you, by not paying attention to us the administrators and the discussions overall, you have deserved this. Consider this as time to think about your behavior in these last days, and when you come back, I hope, and the rest of the admins, you become a different and more responsible user. {{User:Coincollector/sig}}

==Subcon King's name?==

Is it Subcon King or is he called Unknown I cause thats the name the trivia implies is correct {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:Where did the name Unknown I come from and where does the name Subcon King come from {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::Than the name needs to be Unknown I if thats the official name {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:::No we make it Unknown I because that is his official name where does his japanese name come from anyway {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::::Is the name Uknown 1 or Unknown I {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:::::No but i assume he has a name in Japan and that it was translated onto the Sprite Sheet but since i have no idea if the sprite sheet is official i asked an admin {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}} {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:::::::I sent a message to Knife so it would help if you could show him the sprite sheet and explain where you got the name from {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::::::::I always liked Super Mario Bros. 2 but does that mean the events of Super Mario Bros. 2 happened since it has a sequal {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

==Mario Kart Wii==

do you own it and if you do, want to play? {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:oh ok {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

==Horse article==

I just thought i'd let you know that ive raised the issue over whether or not the horse article is valid on the horse talk page please go there to discuss {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

==Hey==
I don't really think we need a Luigi series page. It's really just part of the Mario series. {{User:Yoshiwaker/sig}}
:You're forgetting the fact that the Luigi series has all the same characters as the Mario series and therefore, the two are very close together. {{User:Yoshiwaker/sig}}

The admins discussed it, and I'm afraid we all agreed that ''Mario is Missing!'' is not related to the ''Luigi's Mansion'' games. They have completely different plotlines, developers, gameplay and even the genres themselves are different; the fact that Luigi stars in both is NOT a close enough connection to call them all one series. Therefore, we had to remove all your "''Luigi'' series" content. Sorry about that. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 19:59, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

==Admins==

I'm going to point out that MeritC is an admin {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:What do you mean by supportive user oh and heres a list of all the admins on this site [http://userpedia.adriels.com/wiki/Template:MW_Wiki] {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::Its' because i believe the admins are always doing whats best for the site when they make a ruling or an edit. And what do you mean by "when you are not an admin. I think you kinda doing this quite well to me though" {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:::Of course i do whats best for the wiki and if that means trusting an admins judgments than so be it {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::::It's not bad it's the best thing you can do for the wiki is trust the admins an their judgment because they do what they do for the best of the wiki {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

== M&SG ==

===Behavior===
*I don't know what your problem is, but if an admin tells you what not to do, obey him/her.  Opposing admins is considered to be a strong offense, which will lead to a last warning being issued.  Anyway, just know that based on your current actions, you'll find yourself in hot water if you don't shape up. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 18:54, 13 September 2011 (EDT)
*Yes I'm one of the Mario Wiki Patrollers.  I'm only giving you some advice for the future, because if someone reverts your edits for a good reason, don't start an edit war. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 19:03, 13 September 2011 (EDT)
*Saying that you will wait is not going to cut it.  Only your actions will determine if you're going by your word.  Walkazo told me this herself. {{User:M&amp;SG/sig}} 19:10, 13 September 2011 (EDT)

== Hey ==

Nice job on that Big Boo page. [[User:Dr.Wario|Dr.Wario &#39;&#39;In a big country, dreams leave you.&#39;&#39;]] 09:51, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

== Inserting Info About Soon To Be Release Game Installments ==

Hey there, Prince Ludwig, as others might have stated, you were jumping the gun in putting in info on character articles relating to Mario game installments that have yet to be released. It's best that we put that info about related characters in their respective articles <i>after</i> the games themselves officially hit store shelves (which obviously include <i>Super Mario 3D Land</i> and <i>Mario Kart 7</i>), because by then we'll have better ideas on how those characters were involved in those respective games. Thanks for your cooperation, and kind regards. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 10:44, 14 September 2011 (EDT)

==The Big Boo==
Just thought i'd let you know that unless you can provide a source saying that all of the Big Boos outside of Super Mario World are the BIg Boo i'm going to revert everything not related to Super Mario World {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
:That is speculation the fact of the matter is that only the One from Super Mario World is called The Big Boo and all of the others are called just Big Boo until you find a source that calls the other Big Boos by the name of The Big Boo the infomation will be left out {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::Prince Ludwig, you can't just add that all Big Boos are The Big Boo. [[User:Mario Bros.!|Mario Bros.!]] 16:12, 19 September 2011 (EDT)
:::We have 4 names 2 of them are the same those being the Japanese name and the French name. The English name only applies to the Big Boo from Super Mario World while the super mario 64 big boo is called Big Boo in America and Boss Boo in Japan those combine that with the Italian name and you have 3 different characters.  I would also like to know where you got the Italian name from {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}
::::Well actually we have something much more confusing the Mario Mania guide calls the big boo boss from SMW The Big Boo so that makes it a seperate character. However the japanese version simply calls it Atomic Boo thus meaning that in the Japanese version they are the same this goes for the French Version as well. Than you add in the Italian name which calls it The King Boo in both SMW and SM64 thus implying that the Big Boo from SMW and SM64 are the same. However this contradicts the English Version of SM64 which simply calls it Big Boo thus meaning that it is no the same character as The Big Boo this is further supported by the Japanese version as well as the other dubs which simply call it a Big Boo. {{User|Goomba's Shoe15}}

== Stop ==

Stop changing "it" to "he". {{User:Mario & Luigi/sig|PLEASE...!}}

I meant on [[the Big Boo (boss)]].[[User:Mario &amp; Luigi|Mario &amp; Luigi]]

== RE:The heck?  ==

Those arts you uploaded were used and has the same appearance as the ones we already have on the MKW gallery, unless they are render arts from MK7, we don't need duplicates.

I am observing them at moment.

Hmm... the brightness quality of the two arts do seem to have different appearances.

After viewing both arts, you may now have my permission to insert them back in their previous positions.
{{User:Lindsay151/sig}}

== [[Donpyon]] ==

Show me a source that says these guys are Whomps. {{User:Mario & Luigi/sig}}
:Ludwig if your the one adding info your the one that needs to find a source {{User|Raven Effect}}
::I'm not on anyone's side because there are no sides i told Mario & Luigi to provide a source that says thos things are thwomps because he wanted you to find a source saying there whomps. And i'm telling you that you can't add un sourced info than tell other people to find the sources {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::Yes i am Goomba's Shoe15, and let me ask you this is it fair to put info into an article than tell other users to find the source for it {{User|Raven Effect}}
::::I'm NOT Goomba's Shoe15... [[User:Mario &amp; Luigi|Mario &amp; Luigi]] 20:12, 6 November 2011 (EST)

== "Minor" edits ==

I've seen that your edits are minor yet are marked as major. Please use the minor edit checkbox when you edit pages, unless you are doing something like expanding sections or talking on a user's talkpage. {{User:Mario & Luigi/sig}}

{{reminder|2=not marking minor edits as minor}}
I told you once, yet you continue to mark minor edits as major. It says that this is a legit reminder in the [[MW:WP|warning policy]]. {{User:Mario & Luigi/sig}}

Please listen to this. {{User:Mario & Luigi/sig}}

== Latest Game Appearance for Daisy (MK7 and F.S.) ==

Just to let you know, we are currently having a discussion on the related talk page for the Princess Daisy article regarding how we should approach changing the Latest Game Appearance since MK7 and FS got released on the same day. I'll take care of the change afterwards once enough input has been given on the matter during the course of tomorrow, possibly. All right; take care. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 00:09, 1 December 2011 (EST)

: Well, so far, the input has been to put BOTH Mario Kart 7 and Fortune Street in the "Latest Game Appearance" section since they both were released on the same day. I'm leaning toward that direction as well, but still waiting for more input on the talk pages before proceeding with the change. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 01:18, 1 December 2011 (EST)

== Edit War ==

Please do not continue the edit war with Goomba's Shoe on [[Boom-Boom|this page]]. Go to [[Talk:Boom-Boom|the talk page]] and discuss the edit before it is made. Edit Warring is against the rules and will result in a warning if you continue. Thanks and keep contributing, {{User:Marioguy1/sig}}

==Lakitu==

Their is no evidence that supports the theory that the one in Superstar Saga is the same as the one in Mario Kart 7 so it's speculation {{User|Raven Effect}}
:Prove it show me the guide that says they are and the proposal is about deleting the article not removing speculation {{User|Raven Effect}}
::Speculation of the Speculation of the Speculation until you can find actual proof that they are the same (as in a guide) than the info shall be removed from the article {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::Also you are aware that Knife is an Admin {{User|Raven Effect}}

==Mario Series Page==
The characters and items you added are two minor to be on the page and fall in the same category of Wart, Tatanga, and Foreman Spike who were also removed from the page after a discussion on the talk page {{User|Raven Effect}}

==Checkered Block==

That is an unofficial name the official name is [[White-Green Checkered Block]] redirects have to be official names and articles have to be under there official names {{User|Raven Effect}}
:I'm pretty sure redirects are only supposed to be official names. Although they can be minor misspelling and pluralized for big articles like [[Super Mario Bros]] and [[Goombas]] {{User|Raven Effect}}

==no prank==
The change I made to [[Whomp King]] was NO PRANK! Don't be telling [[User:Super Spike|ME]] I'm a prankster!!!!
:Your both right the Whomp King is a Whomp and a Whomp is a sub-species of Thwomp however in this case it would make more sense to say he's a whomp because that's the predominant species much like how [[Bandy Andy]] is classified as a Big Bandit not a Bandit which is itself a sub-species of Shy Guy {{User|Raven Effect}}

== Friend Request ==

Could we be friends? I could also use a picture of your choice to put in my friend list also, I need a user box if you need help you could ask *Gemeas* or YoshiKong, they should be able to help you.

[[User:Smb1|Paper Smb1]] 16:53, 20 May 2012 (EDT)

==Frogs==

That article would be a partconjecture because no English source has called the bulk of the species (and by that I mean the species itself not specific characters) frogs. {{User|Raven Effect}}

== Artwork ==

If you're looking for good artwork, a few others and myself have been working on a Nintendo artwork database at [http://www.pidgi.net/wiki/ PidgiWiki]. There currently isn't much organization, which I really need to work on, but right now there's a fairly good collection. It's currently lacking in a number of games, but I've got access to five Nintendo press sites that I can get art from. If there's a game that we don't have art uploaded for yet, just ask, and I'll get just about any art you need. Once I get things fully settled over there, I'll be helping here, too, but until then: --[[User:Immewnity|Immewnity]] ([[User talk:Immewnity|talk]]) 20:21, 27 July 2012 (EDT)

== RE: Image "differences" ==

Whoa, no need to be THAT harsh toward me about this said case, Prince Ludwig. In fact, there's currently a discussion amongst the staff about this said case because this is one of those situations that we haven't deal with before. So far, it looks like they're saying that these images in question that you uploaded might be considered as an "exception" even though the way they are posed are the same, and one of the pictures that you uploaded is in a higher resolution that a previous version of said picture. This should get resolved shortly; thanks for your concern on this case. --M. C. - "Mario Gals" Fan! [[User:MeritC|User Page]] | [[User_talk:MeritC|Talk Page]] 22:31, 29 July 2012 (EDT)

== RE: Excuse me  ==

Sorry for not reply soon, anyway I will said i do approve of Bowser Jr.'s art (as i see the modern different). But not 100% up to me to decide whether they should be kept, as the staff is discussing this.

{{User:Lindsay151/sig}}

We have concluded that the pictures you have uploaded are indeed legit. Sorry for the incovenience. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 08:37, 2 August 2012 (EDT)
:Yes. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 07:44, 3 August 2012 (EDT)

== Warning ==

{{warning|2=expressing contempt for another user|overturned=yes}}

On my proposals, it seems you hate my guts!

{{User:Electrical Bowser jr./sig}}

==Removing warnings==

you can't remove warnings now if you wish to appeal said warning you can go here [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Appeals]. {{User|Raven Effect}}
:It's still a violation of the rules only admins can remove warnings. {{User|Raven Effect}}
::Ah yes it's not a problem (I always get confused on how to make them myself) basically what I do is I just copy one from the archives [http://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:Appeals/Archive]. {{User|Raven Effect}}
:::You post the appeal itself on the appeals page and then you post a notice like this [http://www.mariowiki.com/User_talk:Raven_Effect/Archive_1#Appeal_Notice] on his talk page. {{User|Raven Effect}}

== Appeal ==

<del>I advise you to appeal the warning Electrical Bowser jr. gave you. {{User:Master R.O.B/sig}}</del>
:Never mind, I see Shoey already told you about it. {{User:Master R.O.B/sig}}
::You're welcome. {{User:Master R.O.B/sig}}

== [[MarioWiki:Appeals]] ==

As you said on the appeal, I might point out he did not make the "Move Undead Goomba to Skull Goomba" proposal as you said, I did. --{{User:MarioSmasher/sig}} 16:26, 7 August 2012 (EDT)
:No prob, just don't forget it next time. --{{User:MarioSmasher/sig}} 16:34, 7 August 2012 (EDT)

The warning you've appealed has been overturned. However, keep in mind that comments like "Oh, heck, it's you again" and "Can you stop making useless polls?" are unnecessary and that an appeal won't help if you get warned again for something similar. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 12:19, 11 August 2012 (EDT)

That's what I mean! You made me feel stupid.

{{User:Electrical Bowser jr./sig}}