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== Images and policy ==
== Images and policy ==


I know most of your images are screenshots with backgrounds cropped, but {{file link|CoinCoffer SM3DW.png|this}} is not OK. For starters, it's a .jpg to .png conversion, which is outright against our image policy. The only time details should ever be whited out on a .jpg image is if it's like an art scan where another unrelated artwork gets slightly within the borders or a similar situation. This, on the other hand, is akin to attempting to make a .jpg transparent, which is not allowed. Aside from that, it's upscaled and I can see the original pixels with resize-sampling filters over them, which while I'm not sure if it's explicitly forbidden, should still never be done as it looks hideous. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:11, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
I know most of your images are screenshots with backgrounds cropped, but {{media link|CoinCoffer SM3DW.png|this}} is not OK. For starters, it's a .jpg to .png conversion, which is outright against our image policy. The only time details should ever be whited out on a .jpg image is if it's like an art scan where another unrelated artwork gets slightly within the borders or a similar situation. This, on the other hand, is akin to attempting to make a .jpg transparent, which is not allowed. Aside from that, it's upscaled and I can see the original pixels with resize-sampling filters over them, which while I'm not sure if it's explicitly forbidden, should still never be done as it looks hideous. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:11, April 27, 2020 (EDT)
:Alright, I will crop my pictures from other screenshots. Thanks for your warning. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:38, April 28, 2020 (EDT)
:Alright, I will crop my pictures from other screenshots. Thanks for your warning. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:38, April 28, 2020 (EDT)


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{{reminder|2=uploading jpg-converted pngs}}
{{reminder|2=uploading jpg-converted pngs}}
This has happened twice since you were already notified about this. [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/46#Prohibit_Converting_Between_GIF.2C_JPEG.2C_and_PNG_Formats|jpg-png conversion]] [[MarioWiki:Image use policy|is not allowed.]] Don't use [[:File:YCW Group Artwork 01.jpeg|jpgs as]] [[:File:Mega Mario.jpg|source images]] for your images please. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:18, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
This has happened twice since you were already notified about this. [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_46#Prohibit_Converting_Between_GIF.2C_JPEG.2C_and_PNG_Formats|jpg-png conversion]] [[MarioWiki:Image use policy|is not allowed.]] Don't use [[:File:YCW Group Artwork 01.jpeg|jpgs as]] [[:File:Mega Mario.jpg|source images]] for your images please. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 22:18, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
:How can I get the png-quality for images like those? [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 07:57, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
:How can I get the png-quality for images like those? [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 07:57, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
::You literally can't. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:37, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
::You literally can't. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 14:37, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
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{{warning|2=not properly linking image categories}}
{{warning|2=not properly linking image categories}}
Please be mindful of your image category links. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:49, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
Please be mindful of your image category links. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:49, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
:Just a little mistake, I'm trying to pay attention to it. Next uploads will be with the "i" in lower case. :) [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:13, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
::You just need to scroll down to check if the link is working. If it's red, it needs to be fixed. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 04:39, June 5, 2022 (EDT)


== Mr. I ==
== Mr. I ==
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This image has been deleted time and time again for being an inaccurate sprite assembly, not an actual screenshot. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:23, February 21, 2022 (EST)
This image has been deleted time and time again for being an inaccurate sprite assembly, not an actual screenshot. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:23, February 21, 2022 (EST)
:Which Mr. I image do you mean? [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:01, May 16, 2022 (EDT)
:Which Mr. I image do you mean? [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:01, May 16, 2022 (EDT)
== Model uploads ==
Hi, as a courtesy since you've been contributing a lot in this area, I wanted to let you know that we're beginning to work on moving away from in-game model images in favor of model renders. This is mainly being done because in-game model images don't provide anything that ordinary game screenshots don't, while also having additional drawbacks. Taking the model out of its original context can represent it inaccurately, due to issues such as lighting or the environment (i.e. underwater scenes).
I'm not telling you that you have to stop uploading in-game models altogether, but please at least check to make sure that the subject doesn't have a render already uploaded before doing so. And if you're at all interested in helping with model renders, [https://www.models-resource.com/ The Models Resource] has plenty of them. You don't even need to do anything with the models yourself, the previews they have on the website are sufficient. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:26, June 6, 2022 (EDT)
:That's okay, I will look if the subjects doesn't already have a render. Uploading those models is something I do for years, with love and passion. But not every subject has a render or model on The Models Resource, take the enemies in Super Mario Run. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 14:48, June 8, 2022 (EDT)
:Why do you delete them anyway? It is necessary to delete them? Because I did a lot of work in uploading those models, and I saw some of them were deleted. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:39, June 9, 2022 (EDT)
::Right, if it's a case where The Models Resource doesn't have anything on it, then there's not really any harm in uploading an in-game version of the subject in the meantime. The deletions were only done in cases where where we have both a model render and screenshot of the subject in-game, since having those two cover all bases. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 15:48, June 9, 2022 (EDT)
:::Ok, I understand. But the The Models Resource-models look a little square, my models don't. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:52, June 9, 2022 (EDT)
::::If by "square" you mean the low polygon count ([[:File:Sunshine Mario Tourist Model.png|here, for example, you can see the edges of Mario's hat are kind of sharp]]) that's just a consequence of taking them out of the in-game environment and looking closer at them than the developers intended. In more modern games like on Wii U and Switch you won't see that as much, but on older consoles those are often just the limitations that they had to work with. I'll admit that the previews on The Models Resource aren't always perfect, and often the best course of action is for someone who knows what they're doing to render the model themselves with the proper conditions, but not everyone has the ability to do that. If you want to discuss the technical aspects of this further, though, I'd suggest talking to {{User|Ray Trace}} and/or {{User|Bazooka Mario}}, they know a lot more about how models work than me and were supportive of the decision as well. --{{User:Waluigi Time/sig}} 16:05, June 9, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Yes, that's what I mean. At that picture, Mario's hat may be sharp, but his nose is still square. I understand not everyone has the abitlity to upload proper renders, but why do you only want to have the square models if 'my' models have a better quality? [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 14:51, June 10, 2022 (EDT)
== JPG conversion ==
{{warning|2=uploading jpg-converted pngs}}
You did this again with the rotated, transparent-background bubble Goomba png taken from [[:File:Group Artwork NSMBU.jpg]] when you should've known this is not allowed after multiple past-notified instances. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 12:03, July 30, 2022 (EDT)
:I apologize. Could you tell me why this is not allowed? Because the quality of the Goomba picture was good. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:28, July 30, 2022 (EDT)
{{last warning}}
Again you did this with [[:File:MKT BrosTricking.jpg]]. I already linked the [[#Reminder|relevant proposal/policies]] for why this isn't allowed; the conversion quality usually turns out bad and at times is just a similar image but with an unnecessarily bigger file size. Even if there's a chance the quality of the result looking convincing (which wasn't the case here; your image had leftover edge pixels and there was still part of the background inside the steering wheel), there have just been many past instances of this happening on the wiki, usually to poor results, that it was decided it was best to prohibit it entirely. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 07:19, February 24, 2023 (EST)
:My bad. I'll keep a better eye out for it and only take png's from now on. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:52, February 24, 2023 (EST)
== Modified artwork ==
Don't make edits to the actual subject of the image either. That image of a Piranha Plant in a red pipe was edited from [[:File:Get Reel 3.png]] with the bottom-right part of the pipe edited in to remove the flower. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 23:43, March 4, 2023 (EST)
== Image crops ==
Hello, a number of admins and I have noticed the quality of crops you're putting out and decided that you not upload any more "3D model" crops from screenshots in the future. The reason for this is due to the [[:File:PeachSMRPGS.png|amount of]] [[:File:DonkeyKongMP4.png|poor]] [[:File:LuigiM&SATOGT2020.png|crop work]] (parts of the characters being cut off, or bits of the background still being present), which it doesn't seem you have any intention of going back and fixing; but also the general imperfections the edits create like the [[:File:MarioMvsDKS.png|blurry edges]]. While some of them like those without anti-aliasing ''have'' been passable, it seems like you're just uploading whatever you've done without using your best judgement on deciding if they're good or bad, after I said before to avoid uploading an image if it looks poor (you even uploaded [[:File:ShyGuyM&SATL2012OG.png|one]] immediately tagging it with an {{tem|image-quality}} notice); and we shouldn't have to assess every upload for you. The original screenshot already does the job of showing what the character looks like, and if it's not yet on the wiki, just keep the background intact. If we need models, stick with renders of the actual models from the game's files rather than from screenshots. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 10:59, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
:It would be hard for me to stop uploading those pictures, because I do so for more than ten years and it became a part of my life. I'm sorry if I was negligent, I improved that Luigi pic and uploaded a new version of it. I can improve the other ones as well later. I won't be so negligent in the future, I'm sorry for that, I can pay more attention to upload better models. [[User:Yes man|Yes man]] ([[User talk:Yes man|talk]]) 15:30, April 12, 2024 (EDT)
::This is a cease and desist on these types of "models" if that wasn't clear, so there won't be any future ones. I'm sorry you feel that way but the quality of these crops have just not been up to par. I am sure you will find other ways to contribute to the wiki. {{User:Mario jc/sig}} 11:39, April 25, 2024 (EDT)

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