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== Species? ==
== Species? ==
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How is this a species? One may fight Mouser two times, implying that there could be different Mousers, but [[Tryclyde]] is also fought two times, yet he is called a character. There are multiple Mousers in the comics, but the same goes for [[Fryguy]] and [[Clawgrip]] (who are a "non-game species" because of that). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:46, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
How is this a species? One may fight Mouser two times, implying that there could be different Mousers, but [[Tryclyde]] is also fought two times, yet he is called a character. There are multiple Mousers in the comics, but the same goes for [[Fryguy]] and [[Clawgrip]] (who are a "non-game species" because of that). --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 09:46, 9 June 2009 (EDT)
: I'm confused, too. Plus, in Japan, he's Don Churuge (think of it as "Don Mouser"). Why would he give himself a title to precede his name? Plus, Mousers is incorrect since the comics call them "Mice" anyway. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 23:28, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
: I'm confused, too. Plus, in Japan, he's Don Churuge (think of it as "Don Mouser"). Why would he give himself a title to precede his name? Plus, Mousers is incorrect since the comics call them "Mice" anyway. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 23:28, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
:: In my opinion, the individual Mouser from the ''Super Show'' and the comics should be merged into this article, handling them and the SMB2 Mouser as a single character, while the Mice get a separate one (the current [[Mouse]] might be moved to "Mouse (Donkey Kong)"), just like [[Fryguy (species)]]. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:50, 8 January 2010 (EST)
:: In my opinion, the individual Mouser from the ''Super Show'' and the comics should be merged into this article, handling them and the SMB2 Mouser as a single character, while the Mice get a separate one (the current [[Mouse]] might be moved to "Mouse (Donkey Kong)"), just like [[Fryguy (species)]]. --[[User:Grandy02|Grandy02]] 13:50, 8 January 2010 (EST)
: I agree to this.  Plus if it's a species, then why do three/two you fight have the '''exact same''' voice, tactics, and name?  If it was a sepcies, they would have a different name for each of them.  It's like saying that Tryclyde is a species sincer there are two of him in the game. --[[User:Tailikku1|Tailikku1]] ([[User talk:Tailikku1|talk]]) 09:39, 20 December 2014 (EST)


== Image verification ==
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What about the [[Little Mousers]] guys from [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]] and other places? Are they considered related? {{User: Mpeng/Sig}}
What about the [[Little Mousers]] guys from [[New Super Mario Bros. Wii]] and other places? Are they considered related? {{User: Mpeng/Sig}}
:You'll find the answer in the third sentence of the the Little Mousers article. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
:You'll find the answer in the third sentence of the the Little Mousers article. {{User:Mario4Ever/sig}}
== Mouser as a species? ==
Given that the ''Nintendo Comics System'', as well as the Mousersaurus Rex, would it be safe to consider Mouser to be a species on the same realm as [[Fryguy]]? I mean, the Mousersaurus Rex is clearly a variant of Mouser. Part of me wants to change the infobox to be a species one, list mouse as a subject origin and include Mousersaurus Rex as a variant. [[User:TheUndescribableGhost|TheUndescribableGhost]] ([[User talk:TheUndescribableGhost|talk]]) 16:26, November 17, 2023 (EST)
:Considering SMB2 had two separate Mousers with different colors and DDP had ''three'', I don't see the issue with doing that personally. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 16:28, November 17, 2023 (EST)

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Wait... so why should this be merged?Knife (talk)

Cause we have two pages with the same information. -- Son of Suns

Mouser is about the boss, Mousers is about the species. I think they should remain separate. - User:Ultimatetoad

I agree with Ultimatetoad!! But this is confusing with the Little Mousers, Squeeks and Nomadimice things...ugh. Too much Mice. Paper Jorge
But the bosses are the species. They are not a seperate character; they have always been a species. -- Son of Suns

It is reffered to as Mouser in SMB2 not "The Mousers".
The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ultimatetoad (talk).

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Should Mouser, the character from the cartoon and comics, maybe get his own article? Similar to whats been down with Klump (character) and Krusha (character). -- Sir Grodus

Well, is he a distinct character? Is there only one? Does he have a special name?Knife (talk) 18:48, 27 February 2007 (EST)

He has an accent and aided Bowser in his various schemes and was a member of the Koopa Pack. The comics also gave him a distinctive backstory and history. Another Mouser was briefly seen in the cartoon, though it didn't say or do anything and was simply gone a shot later, leading me to believe it may have been an animation mistake or something. Aside from his various aliases, no, he has "The Species Name", like Yoshi, Toad, Birdo and my example characters above.

Also, just to point-out, the comics showed that Mouser's species all look exactly identical to him, only differing in personality. -- Sir Grodus

Yeah, then I can understand how he deserves his own article. Its fine by me but remember that you have to move all character specific info to that article.Knife (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2007 (EST)

I'll get on it, once I get more information, which could take a while. -- Sir Grodus

I don't think you should. Reason being, with Klump and Keusha, they were a species in the games while a character in the show. With Mouser, it's the other way around.The Mouser from the show, and the game Mouser are the same person. -Ultimatetoad 17:48, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

I plan on watching every episode of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! and if more than one Mouser appears, than I may call-off my creation of an article for him. But theres still the question of his Nintendo Comics System version (see "A Mouser in the Houser" for more details), Mousers were never called Mousers in the comics, they were just "mice", with the name Mouser being reserved for a single Mouser, who is implied to be the same one from The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!

Additionally, I think the Mousers in Super Mario Bros. 2 are a species, they look somewhat different, with the second one having green ears and being slightly lighter in color. -- Sir Grodus

I think it's a matter or whether we think the Mouser from the comics is worthy of his own article, or should he just be mentioned in this article. -- Son of Suns

Uh, this is confusing, so far theres:

Mouser: The species of bosses from Super Mario Bros. 2, throws bombs, works for Wart.

Mouser: (various aliases): King Koopa's German accented sidekick/second-in-command/punching bag.

Mouser: Former king of the mice, joined Bowser and tried to destroy the Warp Pipe system, hates cheese.

Then theres the Little Mousers, Squeeks, Nomadimice and not to mention the Mousersaurus Rex. -- Sir Grodus

I think that Mouser from the show should get his own article. For one, there are multiple Mousers like in the comics. The Mouser on the show is unqiue and has his own personal traits. It's like comparing Yoshi and Green Yoshi. -- Booster

Species?[edit]

How is this a species? One may fight Mouser two times, implying that there could be different Mousers, but Tryclyde is also fought two times, yet he is called a character. There are multiple Mousers in the comics, but the same goes for Fryguy and Clawgrip (who are a "non-game species" because of that). --Grandy02 09:46, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

I'm confused, too. Plus, in Japan, he's Don Churuge (think of it as "Don Mouser"). Why would he give himself a title to precede his name? Plus, Mousers is incorrect since the comics call them "Mice" anyway. LinkTheLefty 23:28, 27 August 2009 (EDT)
In my opinion, the individual Mouser from the Super Show and the comics should be merged into this article, handling them and the SMB2 Mouser as a single character, while the Mice get a separate one (the current Mouse might be moved to "Mouse (Donkey Kong)"), just like Fryguy (species). --Grandy02 13:50, 8 January 2010 (EST)
I agree to this. Plus if it's a species, then why do three/two you fight have the exact same voice, tactics, and name? If it was a sepcies, they would have a different name for each of them. It's like saying that Tryclyde is a species sincer there are two of him in the game. --Tailikku1 (talk) 09:39, 20 December 2014 (EST)

Image verification[edit]

So, where does the picture come from? It's not in the manual. In the manual, Mouser is just standing there. Not as exciting, but he sure isn't jumping around. Is it from Advance? It looks somewhat new. I wonder if it's official. LinkTheLefty 12:19, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

Yes, it is from Advance. --Grandy02 16:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

More mousy species[edit]

What about the Little Mousers guys from New Super Mario Bros. Wii and other places? Are they considered related? Bowser and Toad.jpg MPENG · Talk

You'll find the answer in the third sentence of the the Little Mousers article. Mario4Ever (talk)

Mouser as a species?[edit]

Given that the Nintendo Comics System, as well as the Mousersaurus Rex, would it be safe to consider Mouser to be a species on the same realm as Fryguy? I mean, the Mousersaurus Rex is clearly a variant of Mouser. Part of me wants to change the infobox to be a species one, list mouse as a subject origin and include Mousersaurus Rex as a variant. TheUndescribableGhost (talk) 16:26, November 17, 2023 (EST)

Considering SMB2 had two separate Mousers with different colors and DDP had three, I don't see the issue with doing that personally. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:28, November 17, 2023 (EST)