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Edits

Hello, please recall what I said here regarding italics for titles. This applies to games, shows, even books like Super Mario-kun etc. (see MarioWiki:Manual of Style#Italicizing titles).

Also, make sure to make use of punctuation to separate parts of sentences, specifically when using "however" (e.g. "They can also cameo in Absent Minded as one of the characters that can be chosen however they only appear if someone isn’t playing as Monty Mole."). "However" should be preceded with a semicolon and followed by a comma, or at least starting a new sentence: "They can also cameo in Absent Minded as one of the characters that can be chosen. However, they only appear if someone isn’t playing as Monty Mole." Mario JC 00:29, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the advice I also wanted to know if the Small Monty Mole and the Monty Mole and Mega Mole wearing Tuxedos from Super Mario Adventures should have their own pages as characters or variants of Monty Moles
The preceding unsigned comment was added by MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk).

If they were given names, maybe, otherwise they should stay on the general enemy page.

Also, you acknowledged my message but your last edit on Monty Mole completely went against what I said. Mario JC 00:55, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Oh sorry I forgot I’ll probably get used to doing it more
The preceding unsigned comment was added by MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk).

Also the Super Mario Adventures Moles I mentioned never were named, Also I was wondering how I can upload images (especially for when I add manga info later on)
The preceding unsigned comment was added by MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk).

Special:Upload. The summary and license should be filled in, and "{{uncategorized}}" should be replaced with a category link (so for SMK images, you'd replace it with [[Category:Super Mario-kun]]).

Also, remember to end sentences with periods, since a few of your edits were missing them. You also need to sign your talk page comments by typing four tildes at the end: ~~~~ Mario JC 01:23, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Citations

MarioWiki:Citations explains how to properly cite sources. You can see how I did it here. Mario JC 01:30, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

I was wondering do I keep the number stuff when uploading files or no? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:36, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

If you're referring to the "aboutfile" template in the summary, if you're using one of the numbers, replace the part after the equal sign with the appropriate info (e.g. replace "Where you found the image" with the source). If you're not using a number, you can just remove the entire line. Mario JC 01:45, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Also anyway to get my manga scans translated for more accurate info? (Is it also recommended to do only a couple pages from a volume at a time?) MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:51, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not sure what you're asking with the first question, but there's no limit to how much you can upload.

Please remember to categorise your uploads as I mentioned above. {{uncategorized}} needs to be replaced with a category link, like this. Mario JC 02:13, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

The category link is formatted like this: [[Category:Super Mario-kun images]] (square brackets, "Category:" at the start and "images" at the end). Also, any game, book etc. titles mentioned in image captions need to be italicised as well. Mario JC 03:10, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Is there a way to upload multiple images at once so I don’t have to do it all one at a time? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 20:37, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Images can only be uploaded one at a time. Nightwicked Bowser 21:14, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Have I gotten better at editing? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:06, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

I’m good with Monty Mole lore but I do need practice on grammar and editing but I have gotten better overtime MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:14, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

You still forget to italicise some game titles. If you need to do it for a link, you add the apostrophes around the square brackets (''[[Mario Party: The Top 100]]''). You should also make more use of commas (see here), and avoid using informal words like "gonna" and "thing". Other than that, the writing is good. Mario JC 22:22, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

I want to work on the Super Mario-kun section soon and I was wondering how I can show that the page is work in progress? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:40, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Tag the section with {{construction}} by typing {{construction|section=y}}. Mario JC 22:53, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Also which would be better to do first Super Mario-kun or KC Mario? (KC Mario came first by the way if your wondering) MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:57, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

That's up to you. Mario JC 23:11, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

I know but which would you suggest first? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:23, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

I've read neither so I can't suggest one. It doesn't matter which one you do first. Mario JC 23:31, September 28, 2021 (EDT)

Is there also anyway to ask for a section to have translations (if it’s in another language like Japanese) for better names and info? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:23, September 29, 2021 (EDT)

How can I make a proposal? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:33, September 30, 2021 (EDT)

MarioWiki:Proposals covers the rules and layout. If your proposal concerns one or a specific set of pages, it should go on the relevant talk page. Otherwise if it deals with articles on a large scale, add your proposal to this page. Mario JC 00:51, September 30, 2021 (EDT)

Reminder

Please stop forgetting to italicise titles on the Super Mario Wiki. This isn't a warning, and it's possible that you made a mistake by accident or without realizing it; this is simply a reminder for your information. If the action continues, then a warning will be issued. Thanks for reading and keep contributing. If you feel this reminder was undeserved, you may appeal it.

I've reminded you twice already. Even if you're linking to titles with brackets, you still need the apostrophes around them. Mario JC 21:41, October 1, 2021 (EDT)

How do I suggest something from a section? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 09:42, October 2, 2021 (EDT)

Image categories

Image category links should be square brackets, not curly, as I mentioned above: [[Category:Super Mario-kun images]], not {{Category:Super Mario-kun images}} Mario JC 20:27, October 2, 2021 (EDT)

I was wondering if there is anyway to upload files I have since I have nearly every Mario Manga scan with Monty Mole species in my folders and I want to upload them? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 15:27, October 3, 2021 (EDT)

Warioware Twisted being removed from the Rocky Wrench page

The reason why I removed WarioWare: Twisted from the Rocky Wrench page, look at this [1] TheRaoul1992 (talk) 16:30, October 3, 2021 (EDT)

Oh so the sprite sheet didn’t have Rocky Wrench? Well sometimes sprite sheets miss sprites (For example I saw a Yoshi Touch & Go spritehseet that didn’t have Monty Mole or the Metal Mawful Mole sprite sheet missing their standing sprites) so they could have forgotten but it’s possible that Rocky Wrench was only in the Warioware Gold version as a addition. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 16:36, October 3, 2021 (EDT)

After looking at some videos it seems that the Warioware Twisted version only had the Fire Piranha Plants and Bullet Bills and the Warioware Gold version added the airship part which featured Rocky Wrenches. So it seems that your right they only appear in the Warioware Gold version. Thanks for letting me know and fixing this error. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 16:42, October 3, 2021 (EDT)

So uh is there anyway to upload a folder I have here? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:43, October 3, 2021 (EDT)

Yes. TheRaoul1992 (talk) 06:34, October 24, 2021 (EDT)

Section levels

==History==
====''Mario Golf'' series====
===''Mario Golf: Super Rush''===

These are wrong section levels. Sections with more equal signs are sub-sections of those with fewer above them. Since Super Rush is part of the Mario Golf series, which goes under History, it should be:

==History==
===''Mario Golf'' series===
====''Mario Golf: Super Rush''====

Mario JC 08:35, October 4, 2021 (EDT)

I was wondering if volumes of Mario Manga (Like Super Mario-kun) would be like sections (like with the games) or it would be one section? Also is there a way to label a page for translation? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:47, October 5, 2021 (EDT)

Linking

You don't need to link like this [[Mario|Mario]] unless the display text is different from the article title (e.g. [[Mario|Luigi's brother]] --> Luigi's brother). Just link like this [[Mario]]. Mario JC 00:10, October 7, 2021 (EDT)

Well where is a good place to put link to the manga scans of Monty Mole so people know it’s official? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:25, October 7, 2021 (EDT)

We already know the manga is official because we're covering it. Mario JC 00:31, October 7, 2021 (EDT)

So should I not leave red links for future pages? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:43, October 7, 2021 (EDT)

Ghost Monty Mole

The page(s) you recently created (Ghost Monty Mole) has/have been put up for deletion, has been deleted, or turned into a redirect. This may be because it violated at least one of the policies and/or guidelines of the Super Mario Wiki. There are some things you can do to ensure this doesn't happen again. Make sure there is no other article about the same subject with a different title, especially for conjectural articles. Make sure the article has enough information to make it a worthwhile read (i.e. it does more than state the obvious, such as "Luigi's Mansion is a mansion that is owned by Luigi"). Overly short articles are known as stubs and their creation is strongly discouraged; it is better to amass enough information to make a solid article right off the bat instead. Make sure the article is significant enough in the Super Mario franchise to have its own article. If the article has only been tagged to be deleted you can still fix or expand it, but an administrator may delete it at any time, so please act quickly. Thank you for reading, and keep contributing!

Read MarioWiki:Conjectural names and MarioWiki:Minor NPCs - An article should be created if it's significant enough, like Monty Mole Swooper, so just a shot of one (with no role or effect on the story) isn't sufficient. You should make this judgement first before adding links.

A few other things to pay attention to:

• Don't begin a new sentence with "but". Conjunctions aren't used at the start of sentences, so it should be preceded with a comma.
• Phrases in parentheses mid-sentence (like this) should have the first letter in lowercase as I just did (And not like this).
• Use "an" before a word beginning with a vowel, not "a" (e.g. "an undead variant", not "a undead variant").

Finally, please proofread your edits because you're still occasionally missing periods at the end of sentences (your Ghost Monty Mole and Rocky Wrench edits), which should be easily noticeable. Mario JC 06:25, October 8, 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the info but I was wondering if the Monty Mole Stone Spirits can get their own article (They actually do something unlike the ghost Monty Mole). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 18:26, October 8, 2021 (EDT)

I've never read the manga, so use your use your best judgement or ask someone else who has read it if you're not sure. You're also still not using "an" before vowels. Mario JC 00:48, October 9, 2021 (EDT)

Another thing, avoid confusing "its" with "it's" and "their" with "they're". "It's" and "they're" are short for "it is" and "they are", while "its" and "their" are the possessive pronouns (e.g. "uses its kart", not "uses it's kart", and "when they're shrunk", not "when their shrunk"). Contractions should be avoided anyway, so it should be "when they are shrunk". Mario JC 01:25, October 9, 2021 (EDT)

Talk page sections

When you start a new topic in a talk page, make sure you always start a new section rather than just putting your comment straight into the previous one, especially if that section is completely unrelated to what you want to say. Nightwicked Bowser 19:56, October 10, 2021 (EDT)

Reminder

Please stop forgetting to use "an" before vowels on the Super Mario Wiki. This isn't a warning, and it's possible that you made a mistake by accident or without realizing it; this is simply a reminder for your information. If the action continues, then a warning will be issued. Thanks for reading and keep contributing. If you feel this reminder was undeserved, you may appeal it.

This had to be corrected multiple times, please pay more attention to this.

Also, {{conjecture}} is not used for mentions of unofficial names in a section of an article. It's used for the whole article when the article's title itself is conjectural.

I'm not sure what the point of these edits adding/removing the period was as well, but please don't do that as it floods the history page with unnecessary edits. Mario JC 05:06, October 13, 2021 (EDT)

RE: Manga Translations

That link doesn't work.

No, there was no king mentioned from what I read, just one of Bowser's minions addressing him as "King". Mario JC 23:37, October 13, 2021 (EDT)

I have another link here: https://www.marioboards.com/threads/44397/#post-2301092. Its a thread I posted which has the volume 23 scans. Also I will upload some of my physical scans here just for translation purposes. So if you need to translate the name just tell me the translated name from here. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:53, October 13, 2021 (EDT)

The mother's name is「チョロプー子」(Choropūko).

Yes, a Monty Mole mentions a king of theirs that it was going to take Mario and co. to.

I don't see any more names that need to be added. Mario JC 23:55, October 14, 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for the info. I’ll add the implied king for the Monty Moles in the implied characters you can source the dialogue there if you want. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 00:10, October 15, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not that familiar with casual Japanese so the best I can do is pick up names and a few phrases or at least the general meaning of them. Can you also be more specific on which Rocky Wrench creature? If you're referring to the one on the poster in the first scan, it just says "Mario VS Mogera Kong" with no indication of what species it is. The miners don't appear to be named.

The Monty Mole just said「こいつら、大王さまのところへ連れていくだよ。」(Koitsura, daiō-sama no tokoro e tsureteiku da yo.) which means, "We'll take these guys to the great king's place." If it needs to be added to a page, it should be the original quote plus a translation.

Please check that a link works for guest viewers before linking it to someone. This Mega link also doesn't work. Mario JC 04:14, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

Okay, but how do you know that's their name? It's something they shout aloud but I can't be certain that it's what they call themselves.

Re. Mogera Kong, there is not enough info to determine that, but it can be listed on the implied characters page.

Ragumo's page already cites the same passage, which only conjectures that it's related and doesn't confirm it.

BTW it'd also help for others reading the scans if you took them in the correct orientation. Mario JC 21:38, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

The painter's name is Choropū the Picasso (チョロプー・ザ・ピカソ), his muscular cutout is named Macchoropū (マッチョロプー), and the vehicle he uses is the Road Roller (ロードローラー) which is labelled "Nachunaru" (ナチュナル) (don't know what it means but it may just be a name, and probably a pun on "natural" (ナチュラル)). Considering the volume is based on 3D Land, the face on it does seem to be a Morty Mole. As for the ending, it looks more like the Monty Mole Mario was talking to in that panel was actually a cutout, which explains why it's silent (Mario also asks what this place is and demands it to speak up) and looks the same in two panels. The guy at the end says, "「世にも微妙な物語」でした。" which seems to be a reference to the Japanese TV series "世にも奇妙な物語" (Yo ni mo Kimyou na Monogatari, "Tales of the Unusual") with 奇妙 (kimyou, unusual) swapped out for 微妙 (bimyou, subtle), so he's essentially saying, "This was 'Tales of the Subtle.'"

" The writers probably did it to help introduce these characters much easier (since the target demographic is mainly children)." - Fair enough, I suppose I should have at least mentioned what the miners shouted (チョロザイル, "Chorozairu", though I don't know what it means or what the second half is derived from).

"was the Noki talking about those posters that had Mogera Kong being made up movie posters or something?" - I can't tell what he's saying exactly but he doesn't mention their being movie posters.

"Oh also, should the Mogera Kong be in the trivia page for Rocky Wrench or no?" - It can just be mentioned in the SMK section itself. Mario JC 01:31, October 18, 2021 (EDT)

AKG48 (based on AKB48): プー子 (Pūko) the Rocky Wrench, テレちん (Terechin) the Boo, クリみな (Kurimina) the Goomba, ゲソりん (Gesorin) the Blooper, フゲまゆゆ (Fugemayuyu) the Porcupuffer, ハチ子 (Hachiko) the Stingby, バブちゃん (Babu-chan) the Lava Bubble, and ボムりん (Bomurin) the Bob-omb. The festival is called「もぐらまつり」(Mogura Matsuri, Mole Festival) and I don't see a date, only that it takes place "today" once a year. The female Monty Mole is actually Pūko, so she must have taken the appearance of a Rocky Wrench earlier, so yes, this member at least should get an article. The whack-a-mole sign says「もぐらたたき」(mogura tataki, which is just "whack-a-mole"), but Pūko later clarifies it's a「チョロプーがたたくゲーム」(Choropū ga tataku gēmu, a game where Monty Moles whack you, since mogura tataki literally translates to "mole strike" and can be interpreted as the mole being the subject rather than the object). The Monty Mole with glasses running the raffle (where Luigi wins two Statue Leaves) isn't named, and can just go on the Monty Mole page. I don't see any appearances or mentions of knight Monty Moles.

Re. volume 17, no, there was no mention of who or where the jewellery came from. The drink was aojiru. Mario JC 08:33, October 19, 2021 (EDT)

Considering she says "The Monty Moles here are all only good moles" when she introduces the festival (and what she says in my next sentence), I'd say Pūko is a Monty Mole. She just mentions the suit being a "super-metal, invincible power suit handed down for generations in the Monty Mole family".

Again, my casual Japanese isn't good and I wouldn't be able to give an accurate translation of the PMTOK dialogue. The Rocky Wrench's bio says "Appears from the ground and throws spanners. Be careful of suspicious manholes on the field." Mario JC 00:42, October 21, 2021 (EDT)

No, by "family" it means the Monty Mole species, not a specific, literal family. I don't know anyone specifically but you've already posted on the forum, so if someone who can sees it, they'll reply. Mario JC 00:52, October 21, 2021 (EDT)

The mother is just called「チョロプー（母）」(Choropū (Haha), which is just "Monty Mole (Mother)"); similarly, the children are just called「チョロプー（子どもたち）」(Choropū (Kodomo-tachi), "Monty Mole (Children)"). If you're referring to the bottom middle panel on pg. 128, it says "And then, the underground Monty Mole house..." The steak is called「サンタ食うロース」(Santa kuu Rōsu, Sirloin for Santa, and a pun of "Santa Claus"). Re. volume 55, it's literally just a picture of the ghosts so definitely not, and you need to be more specific when you're referencing an entire volume (what page are the ghosts on in volume 4?). I'd count sneak peeks as a first appearance, though I think its full appearance should be dated as well. The Choropū Men'iwa say「にがさんぞ～～!!」(Nigasan zo~~!!, "Don't try to escape~~!!")

4koma strip:

Skyscraper Blues	Careful of Falling Rocks
Mario: Why does this building have a hole?
	Mario: !? Where are these falling from!?
(Big Donut) Big Monty Mole: Gyaaa!? Hot, hot!! Mario: Don't come out!! ↑ Lava	Mario: Aah!? The space is looping!? ↑ Appearing from above
(Block Fort) Big Monty Mole: The hole!! Where's the hole!?	(This is the view from Mario's perspective) Mario: It's endless...

Mario JC 22:20, October 22, 2021 (EDT)

Formal writing

Please pay attention to the tone of your writing and keep it as formal and professional as possible. Words like "gonna" and "sorta" are colloquial and should not be used on articles. Mario JC 04:56, October 15, 2021 (EDT)

SMK

I'd like to know how you're summarising these chapters btw if you don't know Japanese. If you're just basing it off the pictures alone, while it can work most of the time, I'm going to have to ask you to not do this so heavily in the future as it can lead to inaccurately/incorrectly describing the events in the manga (for example, the Choropū (Kodomo-tachi) were not "snarky" and thought Mario was Santa, they thought he was a thief at first). Mario JC 05:15, October 23, 2021 (EDT)

Okay but you didn't answer my post. And you're still forgetting "an" before words beginning with vowel sounds; pay attention to this and proofread your edits, otherwise you'll receive a warning since you've been reminded of this several times already. Mario JC 20:13, October 23, 2021 (EDT)

I'm not translating anything until you stop sidestepping what I asked in my first post. This is something that's important to know before handling these translations. Mario JC 21:19, October 24, 2021 (EDT)

RE:Super Mario-kun

Volume 11 has Wario Land, Donkey Kong '94 and Wario's Woods so... no: no Moles in main chapters nor in the puzzle pages.

I would say the SMkun section is pretty much perfect. Maybe one or two minor appearances are missing, but you got basically all the chapters that mainly focus on Monty Moles.

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 05:50, October 23, 2021 (EDT)

I repeat: safe bet that you mention ALL the chapters that main focus on the Monty Moles. A part MAYBE from minor appearances (like in middle of groups), you got everything in there. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 10:02, October 24, 2021 (EDT)

I need to charge the card, but in the afternoon I can get the last volume. Also, I'm still working on that list you asked me about it. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 07:03, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

Well, between studies and work, it's slow pacing. As for the list, as for now (first 15 volume), I didn't find anything missing. Also, I thought my work paycheck was weekly, but due to the new contract, it's now monthly, so I didn't buy the new volume yet (since I was waiting the work moneys, instead of using directly mine). Maybe tomorrow I can buy it. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 18:29, November 5, 2021 (EDT)

So, the dialogues you linked say (approximately) this:

• "My big brother
  He doesn't want to work
  He jumped out here and got somewhere."
• "He's somewhere
  Selling stuff by knocking.
  [And then I completely gave up with this last sentence, either he's asking what's the name of his brother's job, he's asking if he's ok, or "what he's doing in that garden/gated entrance/tea-garden"]"

More or less, this should be the translation of those dialogues. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 19:41, November 5, 2021 (EDT)

Ok, here's the list so far (reached volume 15 for now). Mega Moles (whose page section is very poor) are also listed here. So, what you didn't mention (or little mistakes to fix, signed with a *) are the follows:

1. In volume 1, chapter 1, Yoshi is the one talking about Bowser's army, not Bowser.*
2. In volume 1, chapter 7, I've seen in some translations on the few mangas' translation sites, that the Mega Mole is considered the parent (possibly the mom) of the Monty Moles burnt by Mario.*
3. In volume 1, chapter 9, the trio meets a coward (and unnamed) Mega Mole (I thought his name was Indy, until I checked that it was the Japanese species name, I'll call him Indy for simplicity): the trio falls on top of Indy while chasing Yoshi, who ate the Underground map. Indy is more scared of them and cowers in fear. Mario and Luigi laughs at the idea of a big enemy being scared and, removing his shades, Indy presents himself and explains he got left behind from all his co-workers. After being saved by Balloon-Frog Mario from drowning, Indy escorts them to the exit. Riding on a Skull Lift, they're attacked by a Blargg, sent to finish the job and kill off Indy too for his betrayal. Inspired by Mario's bravery, even in front of such desperate situation, Indy jumps into the Blargg's mouth, clogging it but falling back into the lava with the monster. Immediately, after, though, it's revealed that he survived, much to his new friends' joy, and the Blargg is still stuck on his head.
4. In volume 1, chapter 15, about the “Super Shades” that transforms Mario into Mole Mario, I'll would add this was (probably) the inspiration for Mole Tank/Mole Yoshi.*
5. In volume 2, chapter 11, it's Bowser and ROY's Summer Festival trap, not Bowser and Morton.*
6. In volume 4, chapter 3, Kamek's balloon is actually a Monty Mole, not just shaped as.*
7. In volume 4, chapter 8, no problems in the chapter himself (you mentioned the ghost of the Mole seen in Hell), but you MAY forgot to mention the puzzle that follows the chapter is a Maze shaped as a Monty Mole.
8. In volume 5, chapter 10, Lemmy creates (poorly-drawn) doodle Koopa Troops soldiers with Mario Paint, including a Mole (not sure if Mega or Monty).
9. In volume 5, chapter 11, the Grudge Rock trows not only the Choropū Men'iwa to the trio, but even other enemies' souls trapped into rocks, but most of them are Monty Moles. (I presume you created the Choropū Men'iwa page, I would suggest making it more generic in order to include the other enemies)*
10. In volume 5, chapter 12, part 2, a Rocky Wrench is squash by Luigi during the Star World battle against Bowser 3.
11. In volume 6, chapter 1, Yoshi doesn't get “reincarnated”: as seen in the previous comic, it's revealed that using that "Yoshi attack", transforms him into "Star Yoshi".*
12. In volume 6, chapter 2, the trio face a Thwomp headed Sphynx, another hybrid with (again) Monty Mole's hands.
13. In volume 6, chapter 4, the trio is attacked by a Mega Mole racer on a icy circuit. He tries to squash Mario after using the Poison Mushroom, his kart is motor-boated, so the ice breaking under his weight isn't a problem, and finally he's defeated with a Lightining Bolt and trapped inside a snowman.
14. In volume 6, chapter 12, the Monty Mole is instructed by Bowser in helping DK Junior with his rematch.*
15. In volume 7, chapter 12, a Mega Mole blocks fat Mario and Yoshi's path but, sick and tired of YET ANOTHER obstacle, Mario lift him and trow him away (à la SMB2), right against Yoshi.

The rest is all fine. I'll check the rest, later. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 11:52, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

Ah, forgot to tell you: tonight I'll see to translate those KC Mario pages. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 12:38, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

Ok, the answers are:

• About the Super Choropū, I see those manga translator make him/her call the Monty Moles "my little ones". About the sex of the character, I'm more inclined to believe it's a she (because in Italian and "Mole" and "Monty Mole" are feminine names in my language, but I have to check for the Japanese version, and it's not that easy).
• The "Grudge Rock" (or "Rock of Envy"), it's that Goomba rock with the ! on the forehead. I think it's some sort of Japanese ghost, but the closest thing I found is the Ikiryo, which is a ghost whose negative emotions make the spirit stay in the living realm, and some myths agree on the fact that it can possess people and things. So I guess all of those rocks with the faces of Goombas, Monty Moles, Rip Van Fish and Charging Chuck are these Ikiryos, and are called "Grudge Rock" by the Eeries and the chapter title. Probably "Choropū Men'iwa" isn't exactly the species name, but a simple description.
• Yes, chapter 4 explicitly states that Mario goes to THE actual Hell (and this is maybe the reason we don't have the Underwhere in the manga, during the SMP arc). Fun fact, I was sure that the bearded Bowser Mario meets in Hell was supposed to be the Japanese version of the Devil/God of Death that, for comedian reasons, has the same face as Bowser, but turns out it's simply the ghost of Bowser's Ancestor.
• The Thwomp Sphinx, simply called “Sphinx”, as the chapter baddie, I agree on the fact that he should have his own page (since we have other pages, I would call it "Sphinx (Super Mario-kun)"). The Blargg Creature, Bookitu says "It's a combined/coalesced/united monster I wanted to make", so let's call him “Combined Monster”. And yes, a page for him too, we'll probably have to make pages for the original transformations (and maybe moves) in the mangas, so why not on the minor original characters? On this note, I would make a page for that friendly Mega Mole of volume 1, chapter 9 (simply called "Mega Mole (character)").
• Finally, yes it's a real Monty Mole, not a balloon shaped as a Mole. It's disguised as a balloon to be in theme with the New Year Japanese tradition (see that Thwomp rolled in a futon in the same chapter).

Yes, I'll do the Sphinx and Monster pages. Yes, the Mole that helps DK Jr. is the same of the beginning of that chapter. And gotta check if Monty-Swoop have a name. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 17:01, November 6, 2021 (EDT)

Ok, so…

• The Monty Mole's stand is "Harajuku air museum". Harajuku is (sort of) a Tokyo neighboorhood. I suppose it's a random reference to the real Tokyo's air museum.
• The Volume 7's scene dialogue are the follow (dialogue semi-adapted, for better reading): Also, here's the scan.

• • MM: "そこまでだ、マリオ!" (That's it, Mario!)
  • M: "インディー!" (A Mega Mole!)
  • MM: "おせいぼは あきらめな。" (Give up on the Oshibo. [NdT: the Oshibo is a packed lunch, most commonly used for funerals and wakes but also as normal bentos.])
  • M: "はーい、あきらめ まーす!" (“Give up”? Very well)
  • Y: "あきらめちゃ いやですよ! せっかく 持って、きたのに‼" (We're not gonna give up! I put all my effort and might into that Oshibo!!)
  • M: "しょうがない、おれの 新しい技を 。見せて やろう。" (It can't be helped, then. I'm gonna resort to my new technique!)
  • MM: "ほ~つ。" (Go on then.)
  • M: "見せて もらおうか。よーし。" (You asked for it! Al-righty then!) "マリオUSA パワー!" (SMB2 POWER!)
  • MM: [various screms]
  • M: "どんな もんだ。" (Hope you liked it!)
  • Y: "わたしに一 ぶつけないで くださいよ。" (Enough with hitting me!)
• No, didn't miss anything in those span of volumes: everything you put was pretty much PERFECT (I swear: I didn't even notice some of those appearance you listed, reason why I made a second check)
• What I would suggest is to change "Choropū Men’iwa" in "Rock of Grudge/Envy Rock" (Romanized in "Urami no iwa", うらみの岩) so that we can include the two Goombas, the Rip Van Fish and the Chuck that appear in the same condition as the Moles too.

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 08:24, November 7, 2021 (EST)

About the Rock of Grudge page... if we have to create a page for each species, we'll have to make a page for the Chargin Chuck rock that appears in ONE pannel? I don't think so: let's open a discussion on Choropū Men’iwa and ask the others.

Also, no: Fishing Boo is the graveyard warden and the creature is, like Frankenstein, a combination of multiple corpse parts. No relation to the rocks.

The KC Mario pages (and eventually the "to be confirmed" facts) will arrive but, again, studies and work and me-time comes first. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 12:08, November 7, 2021 (EST)

No, the fan art at the end of KC Mario I wouldn't write about it. A Gallery is more then enough for it --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 13:45, November 7, 2021 (EST)

Ok, I'm still translating those KC Mario pages, but in the meanwhile I can already tell you some of the stuff you asked:

• the Mega Mole in volume 1 isn't a parent (just the boss of the Monties) nor a female (I see more male pronoum with him like "big guy").
• The Monty Mole-Swooper doesn't have a name.
• The canned Monty Mole, APPARENTLY, is "100% Monty Mole Beetroot" (could be wrong, but is the only food name that text on the can could give me)
• The volume 4 maze's description is "The second super maze uses a Monty Mole as base. While holding a scared Yoshi [NdT: or something like that], let's aim for the goal!"
• Ups, almost forgot the volume 6's Mega Mole:
  • MM: "あいつら、 カートもろとも。ボロボロに一 なっちまったぜ。" (Now both them and their kart are goners.)
  • M: "そうは いくかーっ!" (Is that so?/You wish!)
  • MM: "なにーっ! マ･マント カートか!" (WHAT!? A caped kart!?) [Mario has put his cape on the kart to make it fly]
  • M: "アイテムも バッチリよ!" (The items are perfect!) "逆転だぜ、インディー!" (It's your turn, now, Mega Mole!) "マントカート イナズマ アターック!" (Caped Kart Lightning attack!)
  • MM: "しょ え~っ!" (Oh, my god!) "これじゃ、チョロ プーだぜ。" (Now I'm just a normal Monty Mole!) "たのも、大きく、してくれ。" (Please, make me bigger again!)
  • M: "しょうが ないな。" (I have an idea.) "大きく なったろ。" (You're bigger now!)
  • MM: "雪だるまで うめないで" [NdT: I honestly don't know, seems something like "This is not better" or "Get me out of here"]
  • B: "なさけ なーっ" ("That's cold, Mario.")
• The rest will arrive, don't worry

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 06:14, November 8, 2021 (EST)

Ok, let's see:

• The caged Mega Mole doesn't have a name and the map page is basically a "narrated" strategy guide: "Riding the Mega Mole you can walk over the Munchers" "Crouching here I avoided this guy" and so on...
• The cowboy hatted Mole description is saying something I don't fully manage to translate... from what I got it it's like a "bonus drawing".
• In those span of pages (128-132), the Mega Mole are walking towards the heroes. They try to jump over them, but they fail and land on their head and Mario realizes that maybe they don't see well: maybe they weren't even attacking them. The rest, is pretty much understandable: Yoshi eat one of them plus (accidentally) Peach on top of it, Mario's Mole sinks into the swamp and Luigi defeat his with a cape twirl.
• PLOT of SMW-6: The Mushroom Kingdom museum is exposing the Golden Mushroom, but it get stole on live by what it looks to be Bowser: King Toadstool nominates Mario, Luigi and Yoshi as sheriff in order to find the culprit quickly. Mario interrogates a group of Monties that are apparently working on the sewers and states they saw nothing, but in reality they are the actual culprits and framing Bowser with a chariot shaped like him. Bowser is arrested, but of course doesn't know anything of the Mushroom and is also accused of many other things he didn't do, like harassing Peach. The Moles attacks the group into the interrogation cell and wreak havoc with bob-ombs, but one of the Mole doesn't trow his bomb in time and their Bowser-chariot explodes. Panicking, the Moles run to a Wiggler car that Yoshi stops. The Mega Mole (head of the opration) uses a gun to stops Mario, but the sheriff star is an actual star so the bullets do nothing to him and the Mega Mole is defeated and arrested, while Bowser is freed of the accusations.
• The miners have no names. Just generics "pals" and "guys"
• No: no need to page the Mega Mole chief, but I fell like he could deserved more. But it's also true that it doesn't appear for THAT much so... no, no need to page him.
• The volume 7 stuff is still in progress

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 17:04, November 8, 2021 (EST).

• Nah, don't need for a page for the Mole gang. Same reason as for the boss. And also because, if we have to list EVERY manga chapter antagonists as their own, we will DIE before reaching the half way point.
• Nah, it's just a bonus drawing. No need to consider it an implied character.
• The boss gets eaten, the minions are implied to be arrested.

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 04:08, November 9, 2021 (EST)

• The image you just sent me says "Entering underground monster Mega Mole" and it's its name: "地底怪獣 インディー" (Chitei kaijū indī).
  • On this note, here's the plot of volume 7: basically the volume is about kaiju fights that Bowser created. A Ninji has studies some of their enemies strategies and is instructed by Bowser to act. The Ninji, with the Underground monster Mega Mole, attack the heroes who went to Sarasaland. Using the G-force (that makes them bigger), Luigi becomes giant, but it's defeated and trapped in the sea of Birabuto. While Mario and Yoshi rescue him, Peach and Daisy are caught by the Ninji and the Mega Mole kaiju. Luigi is freed and Mario uses the G-force. His attack removes the Mega Mole shades and, since he can't take the sun light, Mario uses his cape like a shuriuken and cut in two the kaiju, freeing the princesses that are taken by Bowser.
• I don't think the dialogue of volume 6 ending have anying useful for the page quotation, but here's anyway:
  • MM: (various grunts and laughs) "オレは キラーけん銃を一 もっている! 丸ごしの刑事なんて こわくはないぜ!" (I have a Bullet Bill gun! I'm not afraid of a fatty detective! [N.d.T: Ok, this one could be a nice quotation for the page, I'll admit it])
  • M: "むつ" [N.d.T.: I have litterally NO idea of the meaning of this. This means "six" but... it doesn't add up in any context in this scene. I suppose maybe it's a "GASP". However I see that it's also a syllable for stuff like intimations so, maybe, it's something like "Wait, stop!"]
  • MM: "死ねや マリオ!" (Die, Mario!) "えっ" (Eh?)
  • M: "このバッジは一 無敵スターで できてるから" (This badge is made of a Super Star.) "かざして いるときは 無敵さ!" (When you're holding up, you're invincible!)
  • MM: "へっ! それじゃあ 手錠なしで どうやって オレをつかま える気だ?" (Oh, my God! So how are you going to handcuff me, then?)
  • M: "代用品が あるよん" (There're other ways.) [NdT: I actually missed this, when you asked me the plot: Yoshi doesn't eat him, but just hold him in his mouth]

Don't worry, I'll continue to check the stuff you asked and still list the Monties. Also, sorry for mistaking the Big Monty for a Mega Mole. Beside the fact they both have the same name in Italian, I keep forgetting it because the Bigs appear later in the games. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 16:16, November 9, 2021 (EST)

Its ok, we all make mistakes sometimes. That is why there is people on this wiki that fix grammar and stuff. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 16:18, November 9, 2021 (EST)

I finally got SMKun volume 57: no Moles in it. You also asked me what the Monty Mole stand said in volume 17 but... it has no name. If you're refering to the market, it's just "Flee Market". --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 12:11, November 10, 2021 (EST)

I can continue to check 'till volume 22, then I have some sparse volume from the site: the complete list of volumes I have are 1-22, 25, 37-40, 50-57. Also, don't worry, I'm still going with the KC Mario stuff. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 18:24, November 10, 2021 (EST)

Just checked and no: no Moles in volume 51 and 52 (excluding the Mukumuku in SMRPG) and no one makes a comparison between the Undergrunts (btw, only Major Burrow appears) and the Monty Moles. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 08:53, November 11, 2021 (EST)

Ok, here's the answers of the KC Mario stuff:

• The miner Mole in "Vol. 13: Mario Open Golf" is defenitly a Mega Mole: it's bigger then the little Mole in the hole.
• The Biker gang has a no name.
• No, it's not a subspecies: they're normal Monty Moles. They look human only because they have longer legs so they can make them visually better while riding a bike.
• I'll go ahead and presume the "Monty Mole fan" are the one from page 48. "あせったって ムダさ プー" (It's a waste of time!) "おまえの カートにや エンジンが ついてないん だプウ~" (Your kart doesn't have an engine)
• Summary: they seemingly just escort Bowser to the race to make him more intimidating. On the starting line, some moles dig below Mario's kart and remove the engine. Mario takes one from the pit stopper. Later, after making Bowser go off-road, Mario and the Pit Stopper reach DK (aka young Cranky) and DKJr.'s kart (btw, some racers are in two on a kart, like in Double Dash). They have a kart crash. Mario's kart is still ok and uses it to take Junior, too injured, to the Dr. Mario's clinic hospital, while DK hops on Bowser's kart towards the finish. On the way to the hospital Mario is obstacled by the Monty Mole gang, but uses the power of a Boo he saved to become transparent and surpasses the gang. Mario then returns to the track, reaches DK-Bowser, who are arguing, and wins the race (however his price money goes to the pit stop team for the engine, to the clinic for Junior's cures, and to the race track team for the damages, but he still keeps the trophy cup that gives to the King to replace the broken vase).
• About the bazooka, Bowser say "it's a new Monty Mole bullet" (チョロプー 弾; Choropū-dan), but doesn't seem to be the weapon, that he uses in the previous chapter with Koopa shells. So it's a normal bazooka.
• Ehm... what Monty Mole miner? In Super Mario Kart 3 I only see Moles with military basque.
• The Monty that tosses the scoprion to Luigi is called by Peach "Mr. Monty Mole" (チョロプーさん, Choropū-san) but defenitly not as a name. Later it's theoriezed that the Monties (not clear if just the "military gang" or the whole species) originate from the underground city. Mario and Peach runs over a Mole that presents himself as the city warden. Then that's it.
• The only blood in the volume comes from Bowser when he stings with a rose, not from the Monties.
• The dialogue of the scorpion trowing Monty is: "オレは マリオカートを じゃまする ためにいるんだ すこしはこわが一 れってんだよォオ" (I've been ordered to get in the way of Mario's kart and I'm scared) "わらっていら れるのは、いまのうちだ!" (It's time to finish you!) "この 猛毒サソリを プレゼントして やるからな!" (Enjoy this deadly venomous scoprion as a gift!)
• The dialogue of the temple warden is: "そうだ! 血清は一番奥の 神殿にある" (Yes! The serum [for the scorpion venom]) is in the inner temple!) "ほしければ 最後の番人である。 オレをたおしてから いけ!" (If you want it, you'll have to pass trough me! I'm the last guard!) [then, this is funny, Mario says: "Very well. (runs over him) Thank you."]
• The underground city is apparently called "Pooh Continent" (probably from the last syllable of Choropu) "プー大陸, Pū tairiku". Also yes: this place does need a page.
• I can't understand what the Mega Mole in Wart's casino is saying, sorry.
• The Tree Zone descrption says nothing interesting just: "If you go under the roots, you will find enemies such as moles in the cavity!!"
• No name, it's just the ghost of a Monty.

DONE. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 07:26, November 12, 2021 (EST)

Don't worry, dude. It's still fun doing this (no matter the numerous questions). So:

• I repeat, the Monty bikers aren't another species, they look strange because they have to reach the pedals, but they are normal Monty Moles. And their role isn't that big, having a very tamed role even for ONE chapter standars.
• They don't say anything to Bowser. The only thing they say is a jeer to Mario when they sabotage his kart (see above), then, when they surround Mario the lead biker say:
  • MM: "この先は通さんプ" (The destination is off-limits)
  • M: "どけっ! 仲間の命が かかってん だぞ" (No, no! The life of my friend is at stake.)
  • MM: "ゴリラの 命なんて どうでもいいさ" (I don't care for the life of a stupid gorilla)
  • M: Mario uses the Boo
  • MM: "ななんだ?マリオがいなくなったぞ!" (WHAT THE-!? HE'S GONE!)
• The "military Moles" don't have a name. No need for a page, they're simply some monties with a role in the Pooh Continent.
• No: they are diffrent: the Golf one has no cross in the helmet. And ok, they have a name, they can surly have a page: "チョロプー ちかたい 地下部隊" (Choropū Chikatai chika butai) Monty Mole small Underground Unit
• The temple it's just called "inner temple": it has no name.
• I hope the decription is the one at the entrance that Queen opens to Peach and Mario: it's the underground city name: "Pooh continent" (プー大陸, Pū tairiku).
• No, it's a normal Mole the one that sabotages Mario's kart.
• I think they are the same miners but without the helmets.

PS: I got my first paycheck and could afford the rest of the SMKun volumes I don't have, but first I want to be sure to buy the Switch for my cousin for Christmas (so some of the volumes will have to wait) --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 13:00, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Ok then:

• Once again, I don't think: the biker gang has a very VERY minor role in the chapter story to deserve its own page. Same for the Monty soldiers
• Oh, right, I forgot to give you the dialogues of the miners in Super Mario Kart 3 (cause I think I gave you the rest): "はいっこちらチョロプーちかたい地下部隊" (Yes, here Monty Mole small Underground Unit) "工事は予定どおり すんでいます。" (Construction is proceeding as planned.) [NdT: "weren't you supposed to demolish, tho?" They built and empty space and put a giant log as column so, after breaking the log, everything falls. That's what they've been "constructing"] "マリオが 通過する 決行せよ!" (Mario is passing. Go, go, go!)

I'm already working on the translations of those descriptions. Hopefully I got everything I should check. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 17:00, November 14, 2021 (EST)

But I gave you that: both from the scoprion trowing Monty and from the Monty left to guard their underground citizen. --Mariuigi Khed (talk) 17:00, November 14, 2021 (EST)

• Yes: I missed another group (チョロプー 森林隊, Choropū shinrin-tai, Monty Mole Forest Corp) [pagg. 46-48 of Super Mario Kart 3]. Not missing that much on their sentences: "Roger" "We messed up." "Sorry!". If these are the humanoid Moles you were talking (I can't seem to find anything else. If I'm wrong, then I give up: just tell me page and volume), again: they just seems strange because they wear clothes, but are very normal Monty Moles.
• Description of the Pooh Continent: "おおっ 地下都市の 跡だ!" (Oh, it's the ruins of an underground city!) "チョロプーたちは一 このプー大陸の 出身だったの か!" (Did the Monty Moles come from this Pooh Continent?) [NdT: This last sentence it's not clear if it's just their base or their abbandoned birthplace, but judging by the temple, I would the say the second option]
• Yes, they share the same hat, but they have a very clear height diffrence: the "scorpion-er" is tall as Mario, the warden is bigger than his car (that makes him a Mega Mole).

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 09:59, November 15, 2021 (EST)

OK, here's some of the translated descriprion from those manuals. (I translated the Big Montogomery sections, but are nothing more that a battle guides. Nothing interesting for the character itself).

• Origami Rocky Wrench: "Emerges from the ground and throws a spanner. Watch out for suspicious manholes"
• YWW Monty Mole: "It appears from the ground and walls and runs towards me (Yoshi). If you drop your hips while you're underground, you can kill them before they appear."
• YWW Monty Mole Patches: "It appears when the knot of the topography where the picture of Monty Mole was drawn is untied. When it appears, hurry up and jump overhead to find it."
• Monty seller PMTOK: "When you get to Overlook Mountain you can explore and follow the road. There, Monty Mole sells something on the way. This is a green Shell Stone, so wait for it and buy it with 300 coins!"

--Mariuigi Khed (talk) 10:19, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Ah, you're back. Ok, let's see...

• SMKun stuff: last time we covered the first 16 volumes. What you wrote for volume 17, 18, 19 are 100% fine, nothing missing. There are no Moles in volume 20 and 21 (and also neither in 51 and 52).
• So, about that tribe: they are call them "Amazons" (アマゾネス) but in the first KC Mario, a humanized Suu (simply named "Suu-chan") appears with the same appeareance, so the cases are two: or these Amazons are also humanized Suu-s, or Suu-chan simply transformed in one of these Amazons (I'm more inclined to stick with this version, since their clothes are a bit different: Suu-chan has a two pieces bikini-esque dress, the Amazons have a simple one-piece dress). Btw, the queen has no name, so link her as "Amazon Queen". The Amazons' deal is they want back the rain, thinking the Blargg they treat as a god is the reason why it doesn't rain anymore, so they are gonna sacrifice to it the men they captures (Luigi, Bowser and Wario). One Amazon that kidnapped Luigi trips and is left locked out from their kingdom (the neighbooring cave to the Pū tairiku's entrance, the ONLY thing that relates them with the Moles). Mario helps her get in, saves Luigi and starts raining again, killing the Blargg and flooding the jungle. Later, Mario asks the Queen where to find the antidote and she opens the way to Pū tairiku.
• No, only Mario and/or Peach makes the assumption that the Monty Moles came from the Pū tairiku.
• You do a sensable argument, but the two wardens are (again) diffrently sized and are also encountered in two diffrent locations, they can't be the same Mole. Also because, the reason Mario has to go to Pū tairiku is to find the antidote for Luigi (and here he found the big warden), not for the race (were he found the small warden). (also, yes, true about the "there are more giant moles then just Mega Moles", but at the time, only Mega Moles, Monty Moles and Rocky Wrenches existed in the games, so...).
• Ok, I'll do the "Pū tairiku" page later.

-- Mariuigi Khed 07:05, November 30, 2021 (EST)

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Mario JC 21:19, October 24, 2021 (EDT)

Proposal layout

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• Under the section header, you need to put a proposal notice "{{TPP}}".
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Nightwicked Bowser 05:33, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

Last warning

This is your last warning. The next time you break the rules in any way, you will be blocked from editing the Super Mario Wiki. If you feel this last warning was undeserved, you may appeal it.

Either you're choosing not to read anything other than what you requested or you read the advice and refused to follow it because in no instance of using an indefinite article have you used it correctly before a vowel sound since the initial reminder, and it's frustrating for others having to correct the same mistakes you were notified for several times. If you want others to cooperate with you, at the very least start doing the same and take advice seriously and listen to what else others are telling you.

Also, don't make it a habit of always reverting someone else's edit removing something you wrote. If you think it should stay, discuss it first. Mario JC 21:07, October 30, 2021 (EDT)

I am very very sorry for not using an in sentences. I always forget about it and I really don’t want to get banned for it. From now on I will try to use an in my sentences correctly. I will try to do it more often. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:11, October 30, 2021 (EDT)

I know it is minor, but I used an in my last edit if you want to see. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:22, October 30, 2021 (EDT)

RE:Monty Mole Stuff

I don’t have the game—can’t access it since it’s not available in my region—and even if I did, I’m afraid that with the game’s discontinuation currently drawing near, any of my potential efforts would have been hasty and possibly fruitless. The Dr. Mario World pictures I’m uploading originate from the game’s promotional social media accounts, which do not seem to make any allusion to Monty Moles whatsoever. Sorry about that.
As for any sign of talpid depictions in the concept art of Mario + Rabbids, I’ll have to check and I’ll be able to do so at a later time. Thank you for your inquiry! -- KOOPA CON CARNE 16:58, October 31, 2021 (EDT)

Chronological order

See MarioWiki:Manual of Style#History - Pay attention to where you're adding new History subsections, as they should be in chronological order. Badge Arcade did not come out between the first Yoshi-franchise game and the G&W Gallery series, so on the Monty Mole page, it should be placed after Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games and before Dr. Mario World. Mario JC 21:32, October 31, 2021 (EDT)

Make your user page!

I think it is a good idea to make a user page for other people to get to know you. OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

Maybe one day, but not right now. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 12:38, November 8, 2021 (EST)

People don't have to make a userpage if they don't want to. Nightwicked Bowser 14:14, November 8, 2021 (EST)

This has already been resolved. He/she said later and it is set to later. OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

RE: Spritesheet

Well, I found it on images and I had no idea where it was because I scrolled by quickly. I believe it was one of those you said, so it probably was unofficial. OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

Re: Mole Screenshots

I got screenshots of battles in Color Splash and Origami King, but credits stuff is usually harder since it takes a long time to do, so I don't think I'll be able to get that. I'm not sure what you mean by the soccer shop.

The full-body sprites for Sticker Star are technically used in-game, but not visible. I checked in a model viewer and the Rocky Wrench's entire body is drawn and animated, you just can't see past the manhole. Here's an example of what it looks like:

Scrooge200 (talk) 17:50, November 9, 2021 (EST)

Sorry, but I'm not good at piecing together sprites and it's always obscured. Scrooge200 (talk) 18:17, November 9, 2021 (EST)

I don't have a dump of 3D Land, and I'm not very good at model renders. Scrooge200 (talk) 19:36, November 9, 2021 (EST)

I don't own any Mario guidebooks. You could check who's done edits relating to 3D renders and 3D Land, I know some people have but I can't remember their names at the moment. Scrooge200 (talk) 20:14, November 9, 2021 (EST)

RE: Chitei Kaiju Indy

MarioWiki:Japanese#Subjects with Japanese names. It's a name that doesn't originate from Japanese. Mario JC 23:07, November 9, 2021 (EST)

Excessive requests

Hello. I've noticed you've had had a heavy hand pestering people with multitudes of requests. This includes demanding multiple renders and model ripping, demading screenshots, demanding information from difficult to obtain mangas, demanding multiple translations from said mangas, repeatedly from Mario jc, demanding other users to look up guidebook information for you and even demanding myself to rip sprites from games I don't contribute towards to and demanding sprites ripped towards an inactive member. Every single link here links to a different user's talk page, to illustrate how excessive you have been in asking other people to do work for you. This is on top of countless talk pages you created, some questions you can easily find the answer to yourself such as finding out if Monty Moles appear in Mario Party 4, rather than requesting others do the research for you. The sitewite blatant disrespect towards other users' time and effort shown here is not to be tolerated on MarioWiki, and if it's clear that other users are not as interested in the subject matter as you are, I suggest you drop asking multitudes of other people to obtain resources for you. If you want to learn how to rip and render 3D models, learn the craft yourself. Similarily, learn how to obtain the manga and translate it yourself. A little bit of requesting assistance is fine here and there as not everyone has everything at once, but your rate of resource begging is to be curbed. Ray Trace^(T|C) 02:32, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Not to mention that all of those requests are related to one particular subject. You don't suppose you could, I dunno, make non-Monty-related edits? RickTommy (talk) 07:25, November 14, 2021 (EST)

I am sorry for being so demanding, I’ll try and not ask people so much to do stuff for me and instead try and do it myself (though I will still need help with the manga translations if that is ok with you since it would be hard to learn Japanese). I just wanted to know the info so sorry if I was being very demanding. I hope you can understand that I was not trying to harm anyone or make them uneasy. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 11:34, November 14, 2021 (EST)

I would advise you from focusing on articles that do not relate to Monty Moles for a while as well. We all get you are a big fan, but other articles unrelated to them need attention as well. Sdman213 (talk) 12:06, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Understandable, I did do some edits to the moles seen in Super Mario Galaxy which are not related to Monty Moles. But, I am not very good with info for other species, have any suggestions I should do? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 12:09, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Any other topic unrelated to Moles/Rocky Wrenches/Undergrunts/etc. would be helpful Sdman213 (talk) 12:11, November 14, 2021 (EST)

I did do an edit to the Wiggler page, I did use to like researching Wiggler stuff so I could help with that a little but (though my Wiggler knowledge is a little rusty now). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 12:16, November 14, 2021 (EST)

I noticed you seem to have access to certain guidebooks, so information relating to other species from them that we don't have would be a good start, particularly with enemy stats for Origami King. Nightwicked Bowser 12:18, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Oh sure, I can provide scans of the enemy stats (it even also says the exact damage enemy attacks do). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 12:20, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Just to clarify, you're free to edit any subject matter to your heart's content, as there are no rules against laser-focused edits to particular articles. We're all here because of our interests. However, when it comes to a point where your decision making affects other editors who also want to edit the wiki for their reasons and influencing your competency to collaborate with other people, that is when we'll step in. Ray Trace^(T|C) 12:24, November 14, 2021 (EST)

I uploaded those guidebook scans in the talk page for the bestiary. Also, Maruigi is cool if I ask them questions since they are happy to help me (I asked them just to make sure that they didn’t feel overwhelmed by the questions). MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 13:35, November 14, 2021 (EST)

Edit warring

This warning has been overturned by the MarioWiki staff. The original warning can still be viewed.
	This is a warning to stop your inappropriate behavior (edit warring) on the Super Mario Wiki. Please adhere to the rules or you will be blocked from editing this site. If you feel this warning was undeserved, you may appeal it.

You have lately had a habit of trying to force your edits back in a page after it has been reverted, such as with List of implied locations (even I don't agree with having the underground city there for reasons already explained by Mario jc and Sdman123). You already brought it up in the talk page so do not add this back without a general consensus. Nightwicked Bowser 05:04, November 15, 2021 (EST)

One question: what does overturning a warning mean? OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

Simply means that the warning no longer pertains. As the user received a last warning previously, per blocking policy, they would be blocked if they committed a sufficient rule-break. Edit warring is a severe offence regardless of previous infractions, and therefore blocking them was appropriate. Due to this, the recent warning was overturned, for a simple warning was not appropriate in the situation; if we continue to give regular warnings after a "last warning", than the impact of a "last" warning is lost. The patroller above simply made an error. Doomhiker (talk) 11:33, November 15, 2021 (EST)

That’s good to know. Thanks. You also mad a few typos but that’s okay. OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

Wait a second, you didn’t explain clearly what edit warring is. OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

You asked for what "overturning" meant in the context of our warnings. Your question did not pertain to edit warring. If you ever want information on given infractions, go to MarioWiki: Warning Policy or any other policy pages. Nonetheless, an "edit war" is when two users, over a period, initiate an immature argument through edits, repeatedly reverting and re-adding each other's edits. In a situation of conflict, one should engage in legitimate discussion with the other user, not participate in such a petty feud. Doomhiker (talk) 11:58, November 15, 2021 (EST)

Re:Monty Mole species guidebook info

I don't have access to a lot of my books right now, and of the ones that I own, I can't think of many that include Monty Mole. However, I remember that the Super Mario World Shogakukan guide is up on Internet Archive, so I'll compensate with that and the manual.
「チョロプー」 from the Super Mario World instruction booklet:

土の中からいきなり出現するモグラ。地下の世界には、巨大化したやつもいるそうだ。
(A mole that bursts out of the ground. In underground worlds, there are even some that became giant.)

「CHOROPOO チョロプー」 from the Super Mario World Shogakukan guide:

地面の中に隠れていて、マリオが近づくとスポーンと飛び出して追いかけてくる。モグラのくせに地上でも元気いっぱいに、すばしこいのだ。
(It hides in the ground, spawning to spring out and chase Mario when he approaches. Despite being a mole, it's energetic and nimble even on the ground.)

「INDY インディー」 from the Super Mario World Shogakukan guide:

モクラの親玉。上には乗れるけど踏んでも倒せない。挟み打ちにされることが多いので、天井の低い所では注意！　マントで倒せるのは意外。
(Head of the moles. It can be ridden on but stepping on it won't defeat it. Be careful of places with low ceilings, as they tend to pin you down! The Cape can defeat it, surprisingly.)

By the way, I noticed in this edit that you added "basket of apples" then changed it to "Basket of Apples" to reflect the article. Since you seem to have that book, which one is correct? The user who made the article was good but had a habit of unnecessary capitalization, so that's why I ask. Anyway, don't get too discouraged from the temp block. It happens to a number of newer users. Learning to adapt and take things at their own pace usually goes a long way. You've got quite the mole dedication (I'd like to know the story behind that). LinkTheLefty (talk) 20:12, November 17, 2021 (EST)

You’ll probably have to wait a bit for a response because he is blocked. OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

Blocked users can still edit their talk pages, unless a staff member revokes that right as well. Nightwicked Bowser 08:40, November 18, 2021 (EST)

I didn’t know that! OhoJeeOnFire (talk)

I checked and it was lowercase to basket of apples not Basket of Apples. Feel free to change that. Also I do know other guidebooks you could check out for Monty Mole lore. I do not know if I can add stuff to other people’s talk pages so if your interested just tell me here. If you are interested I can show you them so you can help me translate them. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:05, November 22, 2021 (EST)

Taken care of. I presume this also applies to Dinosaur Dilemma's "Scissors" and "Coins"? Anyway, I suppose I can take a look, but I'll be busy so I probably won't get back to you right away. If the description just mentions gameplay mechanics, it won't be necessary for the wiki, so hopefully there's something uniquely interesting. LinkTheLefty (talk) 17:46, November 24, 2021 (EST)

Alright, here are the online scans I know of for Japanese guidebooks, If I missed any I am sorry

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I also have links to some scans here: [2] [3] [4]

There are guidebook scans on random hoo haas here: http://randomhoohaas.flyingomelette.com/ai/scans/guide.html. You can find interesting Monty Mole species stuff there, just find games that have Monty Mole species (this includes Ragumo and Rocky Wrench to). Also what was that text that was said under a picture of Monty Mole taken in a realistic location seen in the Super Mario World Shogakukan Guide (it was in the Valley of Bowser 1 section).

Finally, I uploaded scans of several Japanese guidebooks and manga on the Mario Boards here: https://www.marioboards.com/threads/44397/. So far it is the Origami King and Yoshi’s Woolly World guidebooks but more will come soon once I scan more.

Also remember to put the descriptions on my page both English and Japanese. Thanks for the help. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 20:33, November 24, 2021 (EST)

It's a tall order, and most of those are just not mentioning anything that isn't already readily apparent in gameplay or other sources, so I can't really make it a priority. However, let me direct your attention to this oneMedia:SMBD page 60.png.
「チョロプー」 from Super Mario Bros. Daizukan:

土の中でくらしている, 元気なモグラ。
(A peppy mole that lives under the ground.)

Monty Moles living underground isn't something that comes up often and is more implied than outright stated, so this statement could be useful to the wiki. The rest just describes how it is encountered as an enemy in gameplay, including the fact that it starts off hiding under the ground, so there simply isn't much else new to glean from that. LinkTheLefty (talk) 14:07, November 30, 2021 (EST)

RE: Emulator Screenshots

The graphics are inaccurate to the original game. This is especially clear from the HUD. Mario JC 08:42, November 30, 2021 (EST)

Re:Super Mario-kun (2)

I wrote down so much stuff in the first section that I just need to make another one to help my grammar-corrector.

Ok, let's see...

• Can (SMKun 7): チョロプー ビーつ 100% (100% Monty Mole Beetroot)
• Stand (SMKun 2): 原宿人気館 (Harajuku Popular Building) [NdT: Harajuku is a Tokyo district]
• Monty Mole Patch (guidebook): チョロプーの絵が描かれ た地形の結び目をほどく と出現する。現れたら急 いで頭上にジャンプして ふみつけよう。 (Appears when the knot of the terrain with the picture of Monty Mole is untied. When it appears, hurry up and jump overhead to find it.)
• Flyer (SMKun 6): 地獄の サーキット場完成!! - 命の保障は いたしません。これるもんならきてみやがれ!! "かなやしかけもいっぱい" (Infernal circuit field completed! [NdT: it's SNES Donut Plains 1] - We aren't responsible for your life. Come and see it anyway!! "It's wonderful")
• Virtual Boy (SMKun 13): VBをつけたマリオの目には このように 敵がおそい かかってくるように見えて いるのだ。 (The Virtual Boy on Mario's eyes will let him think he's getting attacked by the enemies he sees)
• Still working on those 4-komas
• I'll create that page after I finish the SMKun 6 page.

- Mariuigi Khed

Vol. 1, Pagg. 14-15

• おやつ (Snack)
  • P: "くやしいから おやつに しよう!" (I'm hungry, let's have a snack.)
  • T: "姫さま! たべものは 毒味をして からですよ." (Princess! We need to taste if they are poisonous, first!) [chomping sound, I presume: they say "ぼくが" (which means "I"/"Me"), but... ehmm... something isn't right, unless they say "I take this [one]"]
  • P: (cries)
• 男のなみだ
  • NDT: I just DON'T get this one: Peach says she thinks she has a stomachache so the Mario Bros. ask her which one should check her, and Peach says that Mario is the only doctor, so he checks her, saddening Luigi. Now, the problem is THE TITLE: apparently is translated in "A man's name" but, again... something isn't right and I JUST can't figure it out WHAT IS. There's clearly some hidden/double meaning in this, but I don't know what.
• ピーチの名の由来 (The origin of Peach's name)
  • DrM: "ところでピーチ姫って無名まえのの由来は?" (By the way, Princess Peach, What is the origin behind your name?)
  • P: "きまってる じゃない! 桃のように 水々しい 女の子に育ち ますよう にって" (I'm not sure! Maybe so that I could grow up to be sweet as a peach.)
  • K: "ちがうぞよ 桃のような デッカイおしりの 女の子に育つ ようにと 名づけたのじゃ" (Not really: I gave her that name so that she'd grow up to be a girl with a big ass like a peach.)
  • P: "ジャンピングヒップアタマック" (Jumping hips attack) [NDT: Something tells me Sakurai was inspired by this scene for Peach moveset (and could be: he takes inspirations from other medias too)]
• 7人の王さま (7 Kings)
  • DrM: "お父さんに乱暴するなんて…" (You shouldn't be violent with your dad...)
  • P: "えっこれがパパ?" (But is he my dad?) "スーマリ3には一によ おう七人も王さまが出てくるからどれがほんものかわからないのよ" (In SMB3 there are 7 Kings so, who knows which one is my father.)
  • DrM: "いえてる..." (What the...)
  • P: "でもピーチは このパパが 好き!" (But I like this one to be my daddy.) [World 3's]
  • Dialogue box: "何者だったん でしょうねこの人..." (I wonder who's the father...)

Pagg. 48-51

• GO! GO! マリオペイント ~その③~ (Mario Paint part 3) [NDT: BTW, forget the lyrics of the karaoke. They aren't that important, anyway]
  • T: "曲もへんだけどネコやイヌの 声が出るのが かわいいしね" (The song is awkward, but the voices of cats and dogs are cute.)
  • MoM: "バックボーカルはおんちでへただけど" (The backing vocals are crazy)
  • MeM: "かえって自分に自信がもてるぜ" (On the contrary, I feel confident in myself [to sing it])
  • T: "そして内容と関係 ないこの アニメが またいいのよね~~っ" (And this anime, which has nothing to do with the content, is good anyway)
  • M&L: "なんだ アレ?" (What is that?)
  • Yoshi's sign: "だいせいこう" (big success)
• Cover
  • B: "恐竜は、恐竜どうし仲良くしましょう" (For Dinosaurs race, let's get along)
• Story
  • M: "ピーチ姫あそびにきたよ~" (Princess Peach, I'm here to play.)
  • P: "きょうはいそがしいの" (Today I'm busy)
  • M: "おかしいなァ デイジーもレディも なんだ" (It's funny, even Daisy and Lady are busy too)
  • M,L,B,T: "そうか!あしたはバレンタインデーなのか!!" (Of course! Is it Valentine's Day, tomorrow!!)
  • L: "てもいつも 兄さんのほうが大きいんだよね" (But my brother's [chocolate box] is always bigger, right?) [NdT: Oh, right: Lui-sy wasn't a thing yet]
  • T: "デイジーから もらいたい" (I want one from Daisy)
  • B: "ほしいけど 悪のいげんが" (I want it, but I need to satisfy my evil spirit)
  • M: "毎年 虫歯に こたえてんだょね! そうだ!マリオ ペイントで お面をつくろう!" (Every year, my chocolate present send me to the dentist with a toothache. I know! I'll make a mask with Mario Paint!)
  • Dialogue box: "そしてバレンタインデーがやってきた!!" (And then Valentine Day came)
  • D: "どういう ことです。の~" (What is this? No...)
  • P: "どれが ほんものの マリオか わかんな~い" (I don't know who's the real Mario.)

Pag 116-117

• ジャンプ② (Jump 2)
  • [NdT: Yeah, let's forget of this one. I don't get the context nor anything but the last panel]
• 武器 (Item/Weapon)
  • M: "くそーっ武器がひとつもなくなってしまった。" (Damn, I've run out of items!) "あと一台抜ければ、勝てるのに!" (If I had one more item, I can win!)
• キノコ (Mushroom)
  • M: "よしそろそろ キノコでパワー アップするぞ!" (It's time to power up with mushrooms!) "よし! パワーアップ!" (Alright! POWER-UP!)
• マリオ地底へ (Mario To the Center of the Earth)
  • M "うわっ!" (Wow) "こ... こいつは...!?" (I-Is this guy...?) "そうか" (Oh, I see!) "地下にもぐれるアイテムにちがいない!" (It must be an item that takes you underground)

- Mariuigi Khed

Ah, ok, only the Mole stuff. Fine (thank you)

• pag. 54 - ビデオ発売中 (Movie now on sale)
  • M: "マリオ役から、日本語で メッセージ" (Message in Japanese from Mario's actor)
  • BH: "「スーパーマリオ」見にきてくださ~い。" (Come and see me in "Super Mario Bros.")
  • L: "ルイージ役から" (From Luigi's actor)
  • JL: "「スーパーマリオ」見にきてくださ~い。" (Come and see me in "Super Mario Bros.")
  • B: "クッパ役から" (From Bowser's actor)
  • AH: "「スーパーマリオ」... 見にきて クマさ~~ん" ("Super Mario Bros.", come and see me, you bears) [NdT: I suppose it's a cute nickname]
  • M: "モグラはダメ?" (Moles aren't good?)
• pag. 56

The three Moles with one character above them have "もぐら" (Mole) written above them. And... nah, no need to have a "implied character" section. Too generic to be considered as characters.

• And now the last page
• ララ~ラララララ~ラ~ (Lala, lalalalala, la)
  • Dialogue box: "ヘクレーンゲームで いっぱいとった" (Got a lot of Moles from the crane games)
  • Y: "マリオさんはボクより インディーが一好きなんだ" (Mario loves Moles more then me) "なんだい!インディーなんてただのまぬけモグラじゃないか!" (What the hell! Mega Moles are just stupid moles!)
  • dialogue box: "インデイーなんて" (disguising as Mega Mole) [cries]
  • M: "ヨッシー" (Yoshi?)
• 花をめしませ♡ (Let's give flowers)
  • M: "ヨッシー いつものせて くれるお礼だよ" (Thank you for your support!)
  • Dialogue box: "花束" (Boquet)
  • Y: "え~?" (EH?!) "マリオさん!" (Oh, Mario!) "やいインディーマリオさんから一 花束もらったんだぞ" (I got a bouquet from Mario, Mega Mole.) "いいだろう!" (All right!)
  • Dialogue box: "インディーん江 マリオ" (From Mario to Mega Mole)
• もぐら (Mole)
  • M: "ヨッシー 今日から一 きみにはのらない ことにしたよ" (Yoshi, I decided I'll not ride you for this race)
  • Y: "え~?" (EH?!)
  • M: "インディーと なかよくなったから" (Because I've become friend with Mega Mole!) "これからは のせて もらうことに したんだ" (From now on, I decided to ride on him.) "わあ!インディー 土にもぐる 気か?" (WOAH! It's not the moment to go underground!) "やめろ~!" (Stop it!)

Ok, let's start the Khoma Teathre:

• Description: "地面の中に隠れていて、マリオが近づくとポーンと飛び出してくる。チョロチョロとすばしっこく、モグラのくせに地上でもやたらと元気がいい。地下の世界には巨大化したやつもいる。" (It hides in the ground, and when Mario approaches, it pops out. He is very cheerful, and even though he is a mole, he is very energetic even above the ground. There are also huge ones in the underground world.)
• Pag. 50: "ひそかなよろこび" (secret pleasure) [NdT: Ok, this time I know the double meaning of what the Koopa is saying but I can't translate it: is saying "I wonder if Monty Mole is a notebook ("notebook" 帳面 being composed by the words "curtain" and "surface", so it's sounds like "if he can mask from the surface" or something like that)"]
• Pag. 101: "チョロプー登場" (Monty Mole appears)
• Pag. 102: "チョロプーの逆襲" (Monty Mole strikes back); "チョロプー最後の聖戦" (Monty Mole last Crusade)
• Pag. 105: "たえまない努力" (Constant effort)
  • MM: "なんでェありゃ" (Why not?) [NdT: I thought there was some hidden context in the Eeries' song, but it's just hummed singing]
• Pag. 107: "消える魔法2" (Disappearing trick 2)
  • MM: "なにィ消える魔法おぼえたから見てくれって?" (What? I remember the magic that disappears, so wanna look?)
  • DR: "こ" (Yes.)
  • MM: "チビライタどこいったんだ? 消えちまったじゃねェか!" (Where's Dino Rhino? He's Gone?) "バーカ" (Fool/Idiot)
• Pag. 109:
  • "空とぶ方法" (How to fly in the sky)
    • MM: "空とぶ 方法が わかったからガヶからとびおりる?" (I know how to fly: you just jump with wings) "ハネも ねェのに どォする気だ?" (We don't have those, so what can you do about it?) "なんでェ この 紙キレは?" (What's this? Cut paper?) "んな かたちに切り..." (In the shape of two...) "ちょっと 待て工" "WAIT A MINUTE!"
  • "あんただれ?" (Who are you?)
    • MM: "おまえどっかで 会ったこと あるよな" (Have we met before?)
    • FG: "なにトボケ てんねん" (Why are you asking?)
    • MM: "だれ だっけ" (Who are you?)
    • FG: "ワイや パタクリボー やァ" (I'm Flying Goomba!)
    • MM: "え?" (What?)
    • FG: "おまえの 穴に はまっ たんや!さっさと助けんか" (I got stuck in your hole! Can you help me, now?)
• Pag. 110: "参加することに異議がある" (I have objections in participating/I have question about the participant)
  • MM: "あのバカ なんにでも キョーミ もちやがって" (what that idiot is up to, now?)
• Pag. 112: "笑うカにン" (Laughing)
  • DB: "ねェねェ おもしろい笑い話してあげるよ!" (Ehi, ehi! Wanna hear a funny joke?) "電話を かけたら だれも でんわ!" (NdT: untranslatable joke about "calling"). "おっかしいだろォ?" (Isn't it funny?) "もう１コもう１コあるんだ!" (Another one! I have another one!)
• Pag. 114
  • "のお宅拝見チョロプー" (Monty Mole's home visit)
    • Sign: "カメックのヘや" (Kamek's house)
    • MM: "よォカメック" (Yo, Kamek!) "元気かケ?" (How are you?)
    • K: "入るな!" (Don't come in!) "魔法の 練習 してるときにイ..." (I was practicing magic, when...)
    • MM: "いいから さっさと もとに もどせ!" (It's ok, now just turn me back to normal!)
  • "空とぶ魔法" (Sky flying magic)
    • K: "なに空とぶ 魔法?" (You want to learn to fly through magic?)
    • DR: "こ" (Yes.)
    • K: "あれは むずかし いん だよな…" (That will be difficult...)
    • MM: "やめとけ やめとけ オレ この前 ブロックに かえられ たんだぜ…" (Don't cry: I was turn into a block, the other day.)
    • K: "一度 だれかで ためせると いいん だけどな…" (If only I had a test subject on which to practice first...)
    • DB: "ホント? ホントに カメックさん ボクの 笑い話 聞きたいって?" (Really? Mr. Kamek wants to hear my funny jokes?)
    • MM: "ああ" (Yes...)
• Pag. 115
  • "人の悪い人々" (Bad people)
    • K: "いいのかァ~" (Will he be alright?)
    • MM: "パーッと おもしろい もんに かえて くれよ" (Please, just change him into a more interesting thing)
    • DB: "なにから 話そう なく、" (I'm so excited!)
    • K: "この前 みたいに一 ブロック とか…" (I can go for a block, like the other day)
    • MM: "イマイチ" (No...)
    • DB: "じゃアいくね!" (Let's go!)
    • K: "あとは、ミミズ とか…" (Then a earthworm...)
    • MM: "それだ!それ!" (Oh, that's it!)
  • "ミもフタもないかと。" (I wonder if there is a lid)
    • MM: "だからよ~~ あやまってるじゃねェか" (So... What's wrong?)
    • DB: "なにも ミミズ なんかに かえること ないじゃ ないか!" (You really didn't have anyone else to turn into a worm?) "その次は ナメクジで…" (Next it's a slug...)
    • MM: "お前の笑 い話より よっぽど 笑えたん だけどな…" (That would be funnier than your jokes...)
• Pag. 116
  • "命をかけた芸" (Life-threatening art)
    • DB: [The same joke in page 112]
    • MM: "おまえなァ いいかげんに しねェと 命落とすぞ…" (You're going to die, one of these days...)
    • DB: "ヒ〜ン" (either a "sigh" or a "Hey [I heard that]!")
  • "しょうがねえ" (It can not be helped)
    • MM: "なにィ? ブンブンに やられたァ?" (What? Boom Boom beated you up?) "そりゃおまえらが マヌケなせいだょ!" (That's because you're all idiots) "しょうが ねェなァ..." (I'm sorry.../It can't be helped, then...)
• Pag. 117
  • "対決の時" (Time for a confrontation)
    • BB: "仕返しだとオ?" (So you want to avenge your friends?) "オレはウデ まわしてるだけだぜ! 当たったら お前のせいだからな!" (We will fight by swining our arms! If you're hit, I'll take everything you have!) "なっ" (Get it?)
    • MM: "オレは 石持ってる だけだぜ!" (I just jave a stone)
  • "一発狙い" (One shot)
    • BB: "くそオなかなか、やるなァ!" (Damn it! It's not over yet!) "や...やるなア" (D-Don't move!)
    • MM: "ムダな動きの多いやつだな…" (This guy knows how to waste stamina...)
• Pag. 118: "舞いあがるカ口ン" (Soaring mosquitos)
  • DB: "あ やア あ?" (Ah! Oh... Eh?) "大丈夫?笑い話聞く?" (Are you ok? Wanna hear a joke?)
• Final page: "とりあえず大団円" (For the time being)
  • G: "こっちは準備ええで" (Are you ready?)
  • K: "じやここに乗って" (The Dino is on the basket)
  • MM: "よ〜し 出発!" (Alright! DEPARTURE!) "ったく…世話のかかるやっ…" (Just... take care...)
  • End sentence: "ようこそワンダーランドへ……おわり" (Welcome to Wonderland...The End)
• Title: ようこそワンダーランドへ (Welcome to Wonderland) [Ok, I wanted to check if the ending quote was just like the opening one. It is.]

- Mariuigi Khed

Ok (still translating the last pages to perfection, so I need less "NdT"s annotations, but I can answer the other questions).

• No, no need to paging the Monty Mole. It has a personality, like the rest of the characters (Boom Boom is a bully, Dry Bone a joker, Dino Torch a dreamer) but... at the same time you could say that for the Super Mario-kun enemies, but they are just "the enemy/ies" and, unless they distinguish themselves with at least a name and/or a new power, I don't think there's the need to paging him.
• Oh, yes, definitly a good trivia to point out.
• I want to check something for the title, so please wait for that

- Mariuigi Khed

• Nah: I would say both the camouflaging Monty Mole and the snarky Monty Mole are clearly two diffrent individuals, but a part mentioning them in the Monty Mole page, I wouldn't create a page for each (I think the camouflage is a nod to how the ground and the Mole in the hole on the wall can actually respawn under particular circumstances).
• So, SMKun's Magikoopa is definitly a proto-Kamek due to his "closeness" with Bowser, same for the one in Super Mario Adventures. I think though this one is just a normal Magikoopa, UNLESS previous or next pages confirms he's treated by Bowser as an adviser (or the fact that there are more Magikoopas in the same place). Also, let's not forget that, at the time, only Magikoopa existed.
  • Also, little PS: I will call this Magikoopa individual "Kamek" since that is the species Japanese name, but I will specify, in the future, if there's questioning if the Magikoopa is or isn't THE Kamek (or a proto-Kamek).

- Mariuigi Khed

Oh, just that of Volume 2? Ok, I can do it quickly, then:

• Pag. 21: "解体屋プー" (Dismantling Rocky Wrench)
  • L: (hopping sounds) "ん?" (What?) "もう少し ここで ねばって みるか" (Should I stay to see how this is gonna end?)
  • WR: "早く 和る物 よこせよ" (Give me something to trow, quickly!)
• Pag. 57: "トレーニング" (Training)
  • MM: "おーいノコノコマラソンしょーぜ" (Hey, Koopa Troopa, wanna race?)
  • KT: "よーし やるか" (Ok.)
  • MM: "けけけっ ノコノコは 足が 遅ぇなァ" (Koopa Troopa's legs are slow) "しかたねえ 追いつくまで 待ってて やるか……" (I'll wait for him to catch up...)
  • KT: "く 自分で言っといて サボって寝ちまう んだからな…" (He fell asleep, I'll carrying him)
• Pag. 101: "こんなんじゃあ~" (He's like this...)
  • PP & MM: (Shrieks)
  • Dialogue box: "その後彼は二度と地上に 出なかった…" (After that, he never went to the surface again)
• Pag. 104: "大男総身に知恵が回りかね" [NdT: I think it's a way of saying, anyway, it means "The bigger the man, the harder for the blood to get up to the brain.")
  • MeM: "よおチョロプー" (Hey, Monty Mole.)
  • MoM: "あっ インディのだんな!" (Oh, Mr. Mega Mole.)
  • MeM: "何してるんだ?" (What are you doing)
  • MoM: "マリオが 来るの 待ってん でやす (来たら飛び出すんでやす…)" (Waiting for Mario... (When he comes, I'll jump at him))
  • MeM: "そうか.…まあ がんばれ" (I see. Well, good luck.)
  • MoM: "いいなあ…あっしと同じ 種族なのに でっかくて 迫力あって…" (How Lucky... he's the same species as me, but he's more powerful and bigger.) "…その分、にぶいんでやすね…" (but unfortunately, that's also his weakness.)

- Mariuigi Khed

Ok, I'll do the translations after lunch (I have the afternoon work turn, today), but I can already say of the page for the volumes: I would go like the SMKun pages: each 4-koma gets its own section in the volume page. I would go with something like
==Contents==
===Chapter 1===
Title of the chapter (translation)
====1: Title of the first 4-koma (translation)====
description
====2: Title of the second 4-koma (translation)====
description
[...]
====Gallery====
<gallery>
4-koma 1 image|Translated title
4-koma 2 image|Translated title
[...]
</gallery>
===Chapter 2===
[repeat]
- Mariuigi Khed

Ok, I'll keep an eye open on the missing 4-komas. Also, nah: it's just one of Kamek's powers: if there is a section about Kamek/Magikoopa's powers, just add "In "Mario 4-koma theatre" and "Super Mario-kun" he's/they're capable of trasforming in other species, such as Monty Moles, Yoshis and Mushrooms..." - Mariuigi Khed

• Wario does explicitly say this in volume 7, but I would go and say this is also implied in Volume 6, since it's part of the game plot (in volume 6, when Mario returns home, he friendly greets two Flying Goomba that says "we're on Wario's side now, scram", so it's definitly implied): "この国の住人も、草や木も花も、魔法をかけて み~~んな おれの手下にした!" (The inhabitants of this country, the grass, the trees, and the flowers have been magically made into my minions!).
• No Monty Moles appear between volume 37 and 40. Only Mole present is Major Burrows, whose design is just Super Mario-kun-esque. I would call it chibi, but it's definitly not "chibi", I don't know how to call this style... "Doraemon-esque" [They did make a paragon in volume 3]?

- Mariuigi Khed

Yeah, Mario does call it "Wario's subordinate" in Volume 6, but, as you say, the fact that a Ragumo is with Luigi, Heavy Zed and the de-hypnotized enemies in volume 10, it's definitly confirmed he was previously hypnotized. However, Volume 6 events of SML2, aren't canon in the manga, since those are anticipations, but are ignored in the next chapter. However, reflect: let's pretend that Bowser hypnotized the Toads into working for him, you would call them "Bowser's subordinates", even if they are obligated to fight on his side, like you can call the hypnotized Koopalings and the Elite Trio "Fawful's subordinates". Also, yeah, in the other Super Mario-kun the Ragumo isn't hypnotized, but that doesn't mean anything, it's another thing (at this point, let's point out how Captain Syrup has a Goom for assistant in SMKun but a Demon Bat in KC Deluxe: that will change everything for these two species). I say, in both occasion, Ragumo is hypnotized to work for Wario and stop Mario (again: it's the plot of the game, of the manga arc, he cheers for Mario in the final battle... Ragumo was hypnotized). - Mariuigi Khed

Alrighty then: ok, I'll translate this stuff (Volume 3), then I'll do a check up of the (possible) missing Monty Mole komas:

• Pag. 11: 帰りたいけど (I want to go home)
  • Nothing special, just Peach homesick, but then feels bad for hurting her captors' feelings.
• Pag. 13: 人助け (Helping)
  • Just clanking sounds
• Pag. 14: "ハッピーバースデー・マリオ" (Happy birthday, Mario)
  • L: "きょうは 誕生日だね兄さん" (Today is your birthday, brother!)
  • M: "ルイージょ…" (Luigi...) "ピーチ姫を一 助け出すまで…俺たちに 誕生日など 滅う余裕は ないのだ.…" (Until we rescue Peach... we can't afford to die on our birthdays...) [NdT: I think he meant it as "we can't lower our guard by celebrating a birthday"]
  • L: "に…兄さん" (But... Mario/Brother...) "…ところで きょうは敵が一 出ないね?" (By the way, have you noticed there are no enemies around?)
  • M: "そう だな?" (Really?) "何よりの プレゼント だよ" (Well, seems I got a gift.) トットット (laugh)
  • L: "よかったね兄さん!" (Good for you, brother)
• Pag. 55: ガーン (Shock SFX; like "BWOOM")
  • Ninji wanted to give a flower to Peach as a Birthday gift, but Monty Mole beat him to it. Simple dialogues, such as "Happy Birthday, Peach", "Thank you", names.
• Pag. 78:
  • だからチョロプー (So, Monty Mole...)
    • M: GASP!
    • MM: "ホントの これがチョロプー" (This is the real Monty Mole!) "な〜んちゃって!" (Naughty!) "わは…?" (Woah!)
  • されどチョロプー (But Monty Mole...)
    • MM: "ちくしようマり才の奴! コクッパ様に言いつけてやる~~っ!" (I'm a talented guy! I'll show it to Miss Koopa) "あつ ウェンデ様あ~つ。" (Miss Wendy!)
    • W: "ん?" (Yes?) "何?" (What is it?)
    • MM: "プ~ツ" (Pfff) [preparing the same "joke" he played on Mario]
    • W: "念入りにね..." (Good riddance)
    • MM: "これ がホントの..." (This is really...) "...くそ" (...sh*t)
• We can skip Pag. 84-85 (title is: "暗いのが好き - 新山たかし" (I like darkness - Takashi Ninji))
• Pag. 89: 人生いろいろ (Life variety)
  • MM: "おッマリオがきたな…" (Oh, Mario is here...) "土の中で 待つこと3年" (I'm waiting in the dirt for 3 year [what?]) "ようやくこの暗闇とも おさらばだ" (Finally I can say goodbye to this darkness) "いくぞマリオ! あれ?" (I got you, Mario! WHAT!?) "オレの 人性つて一体..." (What is my life...)

[Ok, I'll translate Fawful express and the Hide and Seek match later] - Mariuigi Khed

Ok, let's continue with volume 3

• Pag. 92:
  • 一発屋 (One hit attack)
    • I really don't understand what Mario is saying. I think it's another way of saying/moral.
  • にこ2 (Smile 2)
    • Dialogue boxes: "肉類" (Meat) "生野菜" (Raw vegetables) "魚類" (Fish)
    • M: "みんなも ヨッシーをみならって好ききらいをなくそう!" (Let's all imitate Yoshi and let's eat even what we dislike!)
    • L: "約束だぞ" (Very well)
• Pag. 104 ワンダーランドふたたび (Wonderland again)
  • MM: "ヒマだァ" (Free time) "なんか 面白いこと ねェかなァ" (I wonder if there's something interesting going on)
  • DB: "チョロプー" (Monty Mole)
  • MM: "なんでェ カロンか" (What's up Dry Bones?)
  • DB: "ケッサク なんだ今カメックが" (Have you heard of Kamek? He...) [BONK] "...なんだっけ? 今のショックで 忘れた…" (...what was it, again? I think I forgot it from the shock/bonk...)
  • MM: "思い出せェ" (REMEMBER IT!) "オレはヒマなん" (I have too much free time/I'm bored from this free time)
  • DB: "ゆらさないで 記憶が とんじゃうよー" (Stop shaking me! This won't help me gaining back my memory!)
• Pag. 105
  • 見守る4人 (4 people watching over)
    • FG: "カメック WAND なくしたん やて?" (Kamek, did you lost your wand?)
    • K: "そう 困ってんだ" (Yes, and this is bad.)
    • MM: "カロンに 聞いたけど つえなくしたん だって?" (Dry Bones told me you lost your wand, Kamek.)
    • K: "そーなんだチョロプー" (That's right, Monty Mole)
    • FG: "大変 やなァ…" (That's a problem...)
    • MM: "かわい そォに" (Poor guy...) "見てても つまんねェな" (How boring, tho)
    • FG: "あっちで遊ぼ" (Let's play over there)
    • K: "一緒に さがして くれんじゃ ないの かよ!" (SHOULDN'T YOU HELP ME FIND IT!?)
  • 正座オニゴッコとは (What is Seiza*) *kneeling with the tops of the feet flat on the floor, and sitting on the soles
    • MM: "そろそろ いいんやねエか?" (Almost there... Are you ok?)
    • FG: "そ... そやな" (Y-yes...)
    • DB: "チビライアは せいさ 正座 しないの?" (Why Dino Torch is sitting straight?)
    • MM: "そいつはトロいからいいんだよ" (He's quadrupedal, it's fine.)
    • Dialogue box: "正座30分後のオニごっこ…" (After playing Seiza for 30 minutes...) "チョロプーの 考えた一 アソビである" (Monty Mole agreed this was a bad idea)
    • FG: "す足が" (My feet)
    • MM: "カか 入らん" (Never again)
• Pag. 106: 吹く (Squirt)
• Pag. 107
  • 冒険野郎 (Adventurers)
    • MM: "ヒマに まァたなっちまった フ" (Finally some free time)
    • DB: "そーっとそーっと" (Careful... careful...)
    • FG: "のんきな奴っちやで" (What a carefree guy)
  • カづく (apparently is "covering")
    • FG: "ヒマやからかくれんばするてか?" (So you wanna have fun in your free time?)
    • MM: "ああ" (Yep)
    • FG: "それやったら人集めな" (And to do that you want to gather people)
    • MM: "ああ" (Yep) "かくれんぼやるから仲間に入れ" (I'm gonna play hide and seek, wanna join?)
    • DB: "ヒ〜ン" (Ok)
• Pag. 108
  • ルール (Rules)
    • MM: "これから 超ウルトラ かくれんぼ大会を 始める" (We're about to start a mega hide-and-seek match)
    • Everyone: "ンな大げさな" (Agreement)
    • MM: "そこの カメック魔法で消えんなよ" (Kamek, you can't use magic to disappear)
    • K: "ははは" (Eh, eh, eh)
    • NP: "ダメだそオ" (basically a "yeah it would be OP/unfair")
    • FG: "そーやそーや" (Fair, fair)
    • MM: "そこの 二人空に隠れんな。" (You two, you can't hide in the sky)
    • FG: "なんで あかんのや" (Yeah, that seems fair)
    • K: "とーぜん 地面の下も ダメだよな" (And of course, you can't hide underground)
    • MM: "エ?" (Eh?)
  • 達人 (Smart)
    • MM: [countdown] "よーし見つけ… ン?" (Ready or not, here I... Hmm?) "おォ?" (Oh?) "まさかな..." (I wonder...)
• Pag. 109
  • スリル満点 (Thrilling)
    • MM: "オ" (Oh.) "バ〜カ. 水の中に 隠れて やがるな…。" (You fool. You shouldn't have hidden in the water) "なんだ違うのか" (I got it wrong...)
    • KT: "やらなくてよかったア" (Thank godness I didn't hid in there)
  • さもありなん (What wrong?)
    • MM: "よォ カロン" (Found you, Dry Bones.)
    • DB: "やア見つかっ ちゃった。" (Damn, I've been found)
    • MM: "危ねェトコ 隠れ てんなァ" (That's a dangeroud hiding spot)
    • DB: "これくらい やんなくちゃ" (It wasn't easy to reach/Was it easy to find?)
    • MM: "本当は 落ちたん だろ" (I think you actually fell)
    • DB: "うんはや 早く たす 助けて" (Yeah, please help me quickly.)
• Pag. 110
  • 私はだれ? (Who are you?/Who am I?)
    • K: "姿消すのは、ダメだって いうし… どうしよう。" (If I can't disappear... what should I do?) "よーし! これに 変身しよう" (Right! I can transform into this!) "オニ役 ごくろうさん" (Ehi bro [he say oni-san, but he say it in a way that is basically the "hey bro [as best friend]"])
    • MM: "よォ" (Yo) "だれに 化けてるつもりだカメック!?" (What's with that masquerade, Kamek!?)
    • DB: "ま?ま?" (Woah, woah)
    • K: "オ オレ チョロプー だよ" (Oh, it's [that] Monty Mole)
  • やる気充分 (Enough motivation)
    • MM: "八ナちゃん見つけた" (Found you, Wiggler) "なめてんのか チビライタ" (That's it, Dino Torch?)
• Pag. 111: それでは皆さんお別れしましょ (Well then everyone, let's say goodbye)
  • MM: "ょ〜し これでみんな見つけたな" (Yeah, I found everyone)
  • K: "だれか一人忘れてないか?" (Aren't we forgetting someone?)
  • DB: "うまく 隠れ てるなァ" (He's hiding very well)
  • KT: "もオ出てもいいかな" (May I come out, now?)
  • MM: "ノコノコか" (Koopa Troopa)
  • DB: "これで全員だね" (That's everyone)
  • FG: "ホナ帰ろうか" (Let's go home)
  • K: "あ〜あ泣いちゃった" (Aw, he's crying)
  • MM: "ジョーダン だよテレサウルス" (It's Eerie)
  • Group 1: "じゃーな一" (See you, guys)
  • Group 2: "また、遊ぼォなー" (Let's play again, sometimes)
• ワンダーランドふたたび..…おわり (Wonderland again - End)

[Fawful express later] Mariuigi Khed

So, I made my researches and... the case are two: either Sawada's "pre-SMKun" had just three volumes (all based off SMB:TLL) and never realized the SMB3 part, or the SMB3 part is simply UNFOUNDABLE. The only stuff I can find is about the SMBTLL's three volumes. There's also a third option that could be that maybe the manga is called "Super Mario Bros. 2 (the Lost Levels)" but does contain a SMB3 part, but I can only find covers, the three volume stack and NOTHING ELSE. I can't even buy it, 'cause it's sold out. Mariuigi Khed

Re: Spanish Dialogue

I did all the Toad Town dialogue, but there wasn't much different. I decided to only include the lines that had important differences afterwards. I've always been over Breezy Tunnel and the different stuff there is on that page.

Toad Town

English	Spanish	Spanish translation
Ehh? It's not ready yet! Come back later!	Eh... Todavía no tengo todo listo. Mejor vuelve en otro momento.	Uh... I still don't have everything ready. Better come back another time.
It's ready. Are YOU ready? I got Collectible Treasures! Keep it a secret, eh?	Está todo listo. ¿Y tú estás listo para oír lo que te voy a revelar? Tengo miniaturas... Pero no se lo digas a nadie, ¿eh?	Everything is ready. And are you ready to hear what I'm going to reveal to you? I have miniatures... But don't tell anyone, eh?
I'm workin' on somethin' else. Come back later.	Estoy trabajando en algo nuevo. Regresa más tarde.	I'm working on something new. Come back later.
I'm out of stuff.	Se me acabó la mercancía.	I ran out of merchandise.
O-O-O-OK.	Bueno, nos vemos...	Good, see you later...
You want the [item]? That's [price] coins. We got a deal?	¿[item]? Serían [price] monedas. ¿Compras?	[item]? That's [price] coins. Are you buying?
Thanks, pal.	Gracias, amigo.	Thanks, friend.
You tryin' to pull a fast one? You ain't got the coins!	¿A quién crees que engañas? No te alcanzan las monedas.	Who do you think you're kidding? You don't have enough coins.
That's it! I'm outta treasures. Thanks, pal. You've been my best customer. I'll never forget ya.	Pues no hay más. Se me acabaron los tesoros. Gracias, amigo. Siempre fuiste mi mejor cliente. ¡Nunca te olvidaré!	Well, there's no more. I ran out of treasures. Thanks, friend. You were always my best client. I'll never forget you!

Overlook Mountain

English	Spanish	Spanish translation
Oh boy. I was hopin' it wouldn't come to this. The bank's gonna send me a letter...	¡Uy, señor! Esto ya es demasiado. Nunca había perdido tanto...	Ah, sir! This is too much! I've never lost so much...
Sold! To three crafty Koopas who just put this old mole in the poor house. Hoo boy...	¡Vendida a los 3 Koopas aquí presentes que casi me llevan a la ruina! ¡Ay, señor!	Sold to the 3 Koopas here who almost brought me to ruin! Oh, sir!

Breezy Tunnel

English	Spanish	Spanish translation
Hey, you from aboveground? My big bro couldn't shovel it anymore down here so he moved up there. Last I heard he was sellin' trinkets on the roadside. You see him, you tell him he stinks! And I love him.	Ey, ¿tú vienes de la superficie? Mi hermano mayor se independizó de la madriguera y se fue para allá. Ahora vende baratijas por ahí. Si lo ves, dile que no lo soporto. Y que lo extraño mucho.	Hey, you come from the surface? My older brother became independent from the burrow and went there. He now he sells trinkets out there. If you see him, tell him I can't stand it. And that I miss him a lot.

Description

English	Spanish	Spanish translation
They live underground and pop up only to throw spinner wrenches at folks...especially folks named Mario.	Vive bajo tierra y solo se asoma para lanzar llaves. Cuando veas una tapa sospechosa, ¡prepárate para lo peor!	He lives underground and only pokes out to throw wrenches. When you see a suspicious lid, prepare for the worst! (This one uses "he" instead of "they" due to the conjugation; "vive" is singular, "viven" is plural.)

Scrooge200 (talk) 02:22, December 4, 2021 (EST)

I already told you, the stuff I didn't go over is mundane and pretty much the same. It'd be a waste of time to translate all of it. I rip this dialogue directly from the game files, using my own personal dump of the game. Scrooge200 (talk) 22:55, December 5, 2021 (EST)

Mega Monty

In regards to this: like I mentioned before, proposals aren't "polls" exactly, but also, I've noticed that the lines between Mega Moles and big Monty Moles are blurred when it comes to manga. It seems more and more like Mega Moles were supposed to be big Monty Moles at the time. I'm probably going to make a discussion or proposal on it sometime next month, so keep an eye out for it. LinkTheLefty (talk) 09:40, December 4, 2021 (EST)

Usage of {{talk}}

Hello, I've been noticing that you've been using {{talk}} throughout multiple talk pages. The questions you are asking do not require the template; the template is saved for more pressing concerns that require attention, not regarding niche material or edits that concern about minor trivia points. Ray Trace^(T|C) 02:26, December 7, 2021 (EST)

Ban Appeal

I am so sorry, I just wanted to make my sister have a Mario Wiki account. I did ask her about the proposal and she did agree. I did not know that it was bad to do so and would result in a ban. Hopefully I can be unblocked cause I was not trying to cause any harm since 3 months is way to extreme. Please just give me one more chance because I regret my actions. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 09:03, December 15, 2021 (EST)

How do I ban appeal anyways since I feel like being banned for 3 months for giving my sister an account is pretty harsh? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 17:54, December 16, 2021 (EST)

At best you were fishing for votes if you are telling the truth, at worst you made a sockpuppet account to try and affect the outcome of a proposal. Whether you're telling the truth about this or not, you broke rules, after already being blocked previously for other violations. I can tell you right now that any appeal you would make wouldn't be successful. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 18:16, December 16, 2021 (EST)

Indefnite block

Hello, your account has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppeting as TheSniveLife (talk) while you were banned. If you feel you were unfairly blocked, then please explain the situation to us via email. Ray Trace^(T|C) 13:05, December 30, 2021 (EST)

That wasn’t my sock puppet, I believe that was just an entirely different user. I do not think being blocked forever is a fair punishment so is there anything I can do to get unbanned? I am a good user and great at editing so I still want to help improve the wiki. Also I am sorry for responding so late. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:39, January 10, 2022 (EST)

I think it's worth mentioning that this user appears to have created an account on TCRF under the same name to ask questions. Scrooge200 (talk) 22:37, January 10, 2022 (EST)

I think they are the same, since the TCRF questions is very similar to the one asked here: https://www.mariowiki.com/Talk:Paper_Mistake_Buzzy_Beetle Sdman213 (talk) 23:33, January 10, 2022 (EST)

I don’t think that user should automatically be considered my sock puppet just because they were curious about a question I asked. Other people might be interested in the subject so I don’t think it is the best idea to falsely accuse people like this. Also no offense to you Sdman213, but you removed a ton of vital info from the manga sections on the Monty Mole species pages. I would recommend undoing what you did and only remove minor puzzle cameos or useless info. I hope you understand and can improve. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 23:39, January 10, 2022 (EST)

There was too much in common between the two accounts for it to be a coincidence. The wiki staff recieved a claim that you blackmailed TheSniveLife to edit the wiki in your place, which I struggle to believe. Even if that is true, it's proof the accounts were connected in some way and the indefinite block is deserved. Nightwicked Bowser 05:25, January 11, 2022 (EST)

So your basically saying that I deserve to be indefinitely blocked just because another account asked for some sprites? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 17:51, January 11, 2022 (EST)

Read beyond the second sentence of my previous comment. The e-mail recieved to the staff from the user TheSniveLife stated you (written as "the guy who was banned") kept annoying and blackmailing them to make edits for you. Nightwicked Bowser 18:34, January 11, 2022 (EST)

Well I never tried to annoy or blackmail them and if I did I probably did it without knowing. I am actually sorry for what I did and I do want to correct my mistakes. Is there anyway I can improve my actions and become a better user, or will I have to be banned forever? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 19:09, January 11, 2022 (EST)

If you can demonstrate improvement in the future, you can send an appeal at the link Ray Trace gave you. -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 20:36, January 11, 2022 (EST)

Keep in mind that "indefinite" does not mean "permanent", it simply means that there is no set date for you to get automatically unbanned. You can try to send an appeal through the email I linked you and we'll discuss in the staff channel. If you feel like a mistake has been made, make sure you thoroughly explain everything to us. Ray Trace^(T|C) 20:50, January 11, 2022 (EST)

Oh, I thought it meant forever, sorry for thinking that and getting angry. I will send a ban appeal soon explaining why I did the things I did and hopefully I can get unbanned and not sock puppet anymore cause I like editing on the wiki and I want to make the wiki the best it can be. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 02:00, January 12, 2022 (EST)

Also I wrote my ban appeal now so if you want to respond just leave the message here. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 01:14, January 13, 2022 (EST)

Sorry for being impatient but I am still waiting for a response to my ban appeal. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 17:00, January 14, 2022 (EST)

This has been brought up between the staff and discussion is still ongoing. You will recieve an email once a consensus is reached. Nightwicked Bowser 17:02, January 14, 2022 (EST)

Oh ok, makes sense that it would take time. I will just be patient for now. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 17:20, January 14, 2022 (EST)

Also, I prefer if the consensus is on my talk page as well but if it is only on email then I can be flexible. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 15:47, January 16, 2022 (EST)

We primarily discuss the ban on the staff forums on Marioboards. Ray Trace^(T|C) 15:50, January 16, 2022 (EST)

Oh ok, so I will get the email after you guys finish discussing it? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 16:32, January 16, 2022 (EST)

We'll email to you once discussion has been finished. Ray Trace^(T|C) 16:34, January 16, 2022 (EST)

A Message for Sdman213 and Mariugi Khed

Although I am banned, I do have some things to tell you guys. First of all, for Sdman213, I saw what you did for the manga sections in the Monty Mole species pages and they looked terrible. You removed vital info and entire volumes for no reason (like volumes 10 and 13 of Super Mario-kun and removing the gattai monster info), as well as dumbing down stuff for no reason (like referring to Super Choropū as a generic enlarged Monty Mole when their name was fully confirmed. And considering a Monty Mole in volume 6 that was helping Donkey Kong Jr. win a race as two different Monty Moles when they return to sabotage the race), and finally, you removed anything about design changes for no reason despite mentioning design changes in manga being important. There are many other problems I have with what you did so I do suggest that you revert the all of the manga section edits back to what they were originally (before I got the being banned forever thing) and I hope you understand my problems and I hope you can improve and not do stuff like this again so that the page isn’t messy and bad. For Mariugi Khed, since I am banned, I would like you to help add info for the 4koma manga (starting with 4koma Manga Theater and then 4koma Manga Kingdom) since your really good at helping get info. You can always look at the scans to see any thing you missed. If you do something wrong or anything I can always help tell you what to improve. I hope your down with helping me and both of you can understand and help. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 18:04, January 25, 2022 (EST)

I just want to tell you that the MarioWiki policy says to not cover every little thing story-wise(because it often makes flowery and/or grimdark writing), Sdman was just summarizing. Somethingone (talk) 18:17, January 25, 2022 (EST)