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| === Stop considering reissues to be a reference to the original game and vice versa ===
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| This issue is something that is somewhat bothering me. On the Super Mario Wiki, a reference is when something unique in a previous game returns in a later one. For example, the ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]'' ground theme in later Mario games references that game. We know that because, unlike the ground theme from ''[[Super Mario Bros.|SMB1]]'', it isn't part of a character's theme song or anything. What isn't considered a reference is when something in a previous game appears quite often. For example, [[Yoshi]] appearing in a game isn't a reference to ''[[Super Mario World]]'' because he has become a significant part of the franchise. The same applies to sequels and follow-ups, such as Super ''[[Mario Galaxy 2]]'' not being a reference to ''[[Super Mario Galaxy]]''.
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| Reissues, on the other hand, don't get this exception. On both of the pages that talk about ''[[Super Mario 64]]'' and its [[Super Mario 64 DS|remake]], both articles list the remake and original game, respectively. The same also applies to ''[[Diddy Kong Racing]]'' and its [[Diddy Kong Racing DS|remake]]. Referring to the same game in the article, oddly, does not apply to ''[[Super Mario 3D World]]'' and its [[Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury|rerelease]] nor ''[[NSMBU]]'' with its [[New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe|reissue]]. The thing is, it's pretty evident that a reissue is going to take elements from the game it is copying. We don't need to mention it in the references sections of the articles.
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| What this proposal suggests doing is to stop considering reissues as references, just as much as we don't consider sequels, prequels, or any follow-ups as references because that's what most of these follow-ups do. It's like if we consider the Star Wars Special Edition to be a reference to A New Hope. Also, we should put this in the guidelines for [[MarioWiki:References|for the page regarding references]].
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Wikiboy10}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': July 26, 2022, 23:59 GMT
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| ====Support====
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| #{{User|Wikiboy10}} Per proposal
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| #{{User|Platform}} Per proposal
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| #{{User|Hewer}} Per proposal, for consistency with how sequels are treated.
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| #{{user|7feetunder}} Per proposal.
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| #{{User|Ray Trace}} I swore this was policy already but it apparently isn't. Ah well.
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| #{{User|Swallow}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Mister Wu}} Yeah, no need to state the obvious as if it were a reference.
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| #{{User|Archivist Toadette}} Per all.
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| #{{User|PanchamBro}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Waluigi Time}} Per all.
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| #{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Vivian}} Per all.
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| ====Oppose====
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| I do want to say that DKC2 GBA lampshading how Kerozene wasn't in the original should stay. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 20:59, July 16, 2022 (EDT)
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| :It ''is'' parodying the idea of a remake adding something new for a change, so I think ''that'' would stay at least. {{User:Archivist Toadette/sig}} 21:08, July 16, 2022 (EDT)
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| I mostly agree with the proposal, but I would argue this about Yoshi in ''Super Mario 64 DS''. His appearance is recontextualized such that having him on the castle's roof in the opening sequence (rather than the very end) is a reference to the original game in a new subplot, not content rereleased verbatim. Still, I'm conflicted on whether it's sensible to list such details in references sections. What do you all think? [[User:AgentMuffin|AgentMuffin]] ([[User talk:AgentMuffin|talk]]) 20:27, July 17, 2022 (EDT)
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| :That Yoshi example could be mentioned in the trivia or plot section. In that case, we'd say it in the article, just not in the references section. That is an excellent example to bring up. [[User:Wikiboy10|Wikiboy10]] ([[User talk:Wikiboy10|talk]]) 16:09, July 18, 2022 (EDT)
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