Category talk:Objects

Mutually exclude items and objects

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Current time: Sunday, December 22, 2024, 19:29 GMT

Items go into your inventory. Objects are a part of the environment. Items can be freely and conveniently moved around. Objects, if they can be moved at all, most commonly remain in their local area or must be awkwardly pushed around by the player. Objects also encompasses traps and obstacles, and something is very off if Grinders, Burners, and Lava are all being classified as items. There's a contradiction if MarioWiki:Categories considers both Category:Items and Category:Objects to be "main" categories even though the objects exist as a subcategory of items, and we should really clear this up. Items and objects are completely separate, and there's no reason for us to categorize them like they're connected subjects. If this proposal passes, Category:Items will be removed from the objects category and the terms will likewise be removed from each other's pages (objects will no longer be defined as items).

(I'm aware that other wikis shouldn't affect our wiki, but it's worth mentioning that the Zelda Wiki and the Kirby Wiki already consider items and objects to be separate)

Proposer: Time Turner (talk)
Deadline: October 21, 2017, 23:59 GMT

Support

1. Time Turner (talk) Per proposal.
2. Niiue (talk) This has always bugged me. Per proposal.
3. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) I'd say a better definition is that items are collectibles and powerups while objects are gimmicks, as many relevant games here lack an inventory system.
4. Mario jc (talk) Per proposal.
5. Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per all.
6. MrConcreteDonkey (talk) - Per proposal.
7. TheFlameChomp (talk) Per proposal.
8. Toadette the Achiever (talk) Plus, we ALREADY have notable precedents: Bumper and Tire.

Oppose

#Mario Kart DS Fan (talk) they are objects. they are power-ups. ithink they are the same thing.

Comments

@Mario Kart DS Fan: How are, say, Rotating Panels power-ups? Niiue (talk) 09:56, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

I think it's worth noting that technically, all items are objects, but not all objects are items. Since an object is literally "a thing." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:30, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

That's technically true but completely useless for categorization purposes. Every subject could be classified as an object under that definition. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 18:36, 7 October 2017 (EDT)