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::::They're both platformers (not the entirety of MP10, but the MP10 minigame). The point is that the species was [[Talk:Mega_Goomba_(boss)#Split_Mega_Goomba_.28Species.29_from_Mega_Goomba_.28Character.29|split]] in the first place because of behavioural differences in the first place, so if someone was interested in moving a section from one to another, a name shouldn't be the only thing to look at. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 09:00, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
::::They're both platformers (not the entirety of MP10, but the MP10 minigame). The point is that the species was [[Talk:Mega_Goomba_(boss)#Split_Mega_Goomba_.28Species.29_from_Mega_Goomba_.28Character.29|split]] in the first place because of behavioural differences in the first place, so if someone was interested in moving a section from one to another, a name shouldn't be the only thing to look at. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 09:00, 17 August 2017 (EDT)


== Mega Goomba is Big Goomba ==
==Mega Goomba is Big Goomba==
 
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The current state of the article is erroneous. If you look through the page history, the wiki considered the "Mega Goomba" species to appear in ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' as early as [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mega_Goomba_(boss)&diff=710001&oldid=671892 2010] - however, the Prima guide of that game doesn't mention it at all, so the name seems to be an extrapolation based on the [[Mega Goomba (boss)|previous boss]]. ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' also has different Japanese names for them: 「こでかクリボー」 (145 & 209) ''Kodeka Kuribō'' for what we have as Big Goomba, and 「でかクリボー」 (145 & 210) ''Deka Kuribō'' for what we have as Mega Goomba; however, ''Deka Kuribō'' is the usual name for a Big Goomba, meaning ''Kodeka Kuribō'' is a separate middle size.
The current state of the article is erroneous. If you look through the page history, the wiki considered the "Mega Goomba" species to appear in ''New Super Mario Bros. Wii'' as early as [https://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Mega_Goomba_(boss)&diff=710001&oldid=671892 2010] - however, the Prima guide of that game doesn't mention it at all, so the name seems to be an extrapolation based on the [[Mega Goomba (boss)|previous boss]]. ''Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros.'' also has different Japanese names for them: 「こでかクリボー」 (145 & 209) ''Kodeka Kuribō'' for what we have as Big Goomba, and 「でかクリボー」 (145 & 210) ''Deka Kuribō'' for what we have as Mega Goomba; however, ''Deka Kuribō'' is the usual name for a Big Goomba, meaning ''Kodeka Kuribō'' is a separate middle size. Moreover, we do have an English name that we overlooked for "''Kodeka Kuribō''" - Hefty Goomba, from the ''New Super Mario Bros. U PRIMA Official Game Guide''.
 
Moreover, we do have an English name that we overlooked for "''Kodeka Kuribō''" - Hefty Goomba, from the ''New Super Mario Bros. U PRIMA Official Game Guide''.


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Connections with Grand Goombas

Are Mega Goombas related to Grand Goombas in any special way? Because they are both reletivly the same, both are just bigger Goombas. Sprite of Yoshi's stock icon from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Tails777 Talk to me!Sprite of Daisy's stock icon from Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

You're right; Mega Goombas and Grand Goombas are relatively the same enemy--although Mega Goombas are larger than Grand Goombas. Also note that when stomped, a single Mega Goomba transforms into two Grand Goombas. MimiTheCopycat (talk)

They are SIMILAR, but Grand and Mega Goombas are technically not the same. But you do make a good point. PiranhaBomb

Luigi U

I dont have New Super Luigi U, so I dont know if Mega Goombas appeared in it. Can someone please tell me if they did? Yoshi, in Super Mario Maker (as a Mystery Mushroom character) SuperYoshi1234 Long list of contributions. Get ready to be bored... Reply 14:57, 5 August 2013 (EDT)

Mario Party 10

Wouldn't it make more sense to classify that with the NSMBDS one, since there's only one and it's a boss? I mean, yeah, it's smaller than the one from NSMBDS, but Petey Piranha was the size of a small house in his first appearance, and King Boo's been anywhere from the size of an ordinary Boo to the size of a Big Boo. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 20:58, 16 August 2017 (CT)

No. The NSMB boss has a different Japanese name than the recurring enemy, and the minigame's name in Japanese uses the latter. Dark BonesSig.png 00:37, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
Only looking at the names is bad; it's also necessary to look at the behavior between the two and compare and contrast. With that said, I'm not particularly familiar with either NSMB or MP10. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 00:46, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
I don't see how what you're bringing up is relevant. The Gritty Goombas are a case of two palette-swapped enemies in the same game having the same name, which is not what we're dealing with here. There's not much to say about the two Mega Goomba bosses behavior-wise; they just kinda walk around, and you have to jump (MP10) or Ground Pound (NSMB) on them multiple times to defeat them. In other words, they're giant Goombas that behave like giant Goombas, so that doesn't really help. Furthermore, the behavioral differences argument doesn't really hold up when talking about games in different genres.
Dark BonesSig.png 02:13, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
They're both platformers (not the entirety of MP10, but the MP10 minigame). The point is that the species was split in the first place because of behavioural differences in the first place, so if someone was interested in moving a section from one to another, a name shouldn't be the only thing to look at. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 09:00, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

Mega Goomba is Big Goomba

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The current state of the article is erroneous. If you look through the page history, the wiki considered the "Mega Goomba" species to appear in New Super Mario Bros. Wii as early as 2010 - however, the Prima guide of that game doesn't mention it at all, so the name seems to be an extrapolation based on the previous boss. Encyclopedia Super Mario Bros. also has different Japanese names for them: 「こでかクリボー」 (145 & 209) Kodeka Kuribō for what we have as Big Goomba, and 「でかクリボー」 (145 & 210) Deka Kuribō for what we have as Mega Goomba; however, Deka Kuribō is the usual name for a Big Goomba, meaning Kodeka Kuribō is a separate middle size. Moreover, we do have an English name that we overlooked for "Kodeka Kuribō" - Hefty Goomba, from the New Super Mario Bros. U PRIMA Official Game Guide.

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  • Big Goomba
  • These giant Goombas seem scary, but they can be stomped just like regular Goombas. When you stomp a Big Goomba, though, it splits into two smaller Hefty Goombas! Use fireballs to defeat Big Goombas with less hassle.

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  • Hefty Goomba
  • Hefty Goombas are larger than normal Goombas, but smaller than Big Goombas. Stomp a Big Goomba, and it will split into two Hefty Goombas. Stomp a Hefty Goomba, and it will split into two regular Goombas. Talk about split personalities! You can defeat Hefty Goombas more easily with fireballs and iceballs.

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  • Hungry for 1-Ups? This is a perfect place to rack them up! Simply hold the jump button and bounce off the many Big Goombas here, and just keep bouncing off the Big Goombas as they divide into Hefty Goombas and regular Goombas. Bounce off all of the various Goombas without touching the ground, and you’ll score a ton of 1-Ups!

In other words, Big Goombas are always the biggest size of standard Goomba, and the occasional intermediate phase is known as Hefty Goomba; Mega Goomba is the name of the boss Goomba from the original New Super Mario Bros. as well as the name of the Big Goomba from the Mario Party and Paper Mario series. LinkTheLefty (talk) 22:00, 29 April 2018 (EDT)