Talk:Mario/Archive 1

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DDRMM

Should DDRMM be in the other spin-offs section? ^{Plumber, darkgreen}

Yeh. 3D, nice sprites.

No, it a canonical adventure.Knife (talk) 23:21, 19 February 2007 (EST)

Agreed, spin-offs should be strict sports games, kart games and party games which don't have real plots. Now I know some of these technically do have plots, but in Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix the plot is a huge part of the game, while for a game like say, Mario Party 6, the plot is more like an added feature while the party aspect is the real flesh of the game. Even sidescrollers have plot injected in the main game, i.e. the only "point" of the game is to save Peach, while party games are there to make you party.

Now, my real problems on this whole spin-off issue are Mario is Missing and Mario's Time Machine. Sure most people look down on these games, but that doesn't mean they're spin-offs: they're plot-driven, not some sport/kart racing/party games, and they shouldn't be included there but in the main timeline. Same with Hotel Mario. - Walkazo

Cameos

Tetris

Qix

Pinball

Punch-Out

Golf

And lots of other games, too http://www.smbhq.com/cameos.htm Should it be in the article? HK

I don't see why not. Make a list of the Cameos right above the external links and then link to the other cameos this way: [http://www.smbhq.com/cameos.htm here]. Wayoshi 12:53, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

Okay. its on my todo list. HK

Mario Superstar Baseball stats.

Batting:7 Pitching:7 Fielding:7 Running:6 --User:PeteyPiranhaLover

His stats don't really matter. His bio does, though.Waluigi Freak 99 19:07, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

Picture

Can somebody find another 3-D Pic? The picture just seems to similiar to the one on Wikipedia.Knife (talk)

Done. Paper Jorge (Talk·Contribs)

He meant the very top picture is exactly the same as Wikipedia. I have a Smash Bros. Brawl render to upload right now. Wa _T^C_@^Y 06:38, 22 November 2006 (EST)

VERY Humble Beginnings

The "Humble Beginnings" section of this article needs work. Not only does it contain bad grammar, but unofficial snippets as well, such as "His pet monkey, Donkey Kong (the currently known senior Cranky Kong) was apparently abused by Mario (Jumpman). In revenge he kidnapped his girlfriend Pauline and climbed building he was constructing." Is this official? Even if it is, it needs work. 3D, {{{1}}}

Well... it was stated so in the instruction manual.Knife (talk)

Headlines

I think that Mario Party series does pretty well as a subheadline to "Other Spin-Offs", as all other games/series listed there do. Why do you change my edits back? --Cobold 13:14, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Brooklyn?

Why couldn't Mario be from Brooklyn? User:Knife/sig1

Okay. I just changed the article with all available sources. According to SMW2 (the game and instruction manual), Mario was born in the Mushroom Kingdom. However, the Official Super Mario 64 Player's Guide (a very low-level canon source) calls Mario a Brooklynite. When these sources are combined, this means that Mario was born in the Mushroom Kingdom, but must have spent some of his life in Brooklyn. As far as this wiki knows, the game Donkey Kong does not take place in Brooklyn. The most canon source is Donkey Kong Land, which indicates that Donkey Kong took place in Big Ape City, an urban region of Donkey Kong Island. Also, this wiki has not found any source to indicate where Mario Bros. takes place. All we know is that is in the sewers. -- Son of Suns

I like to think of "Brooklyn" as another name for Big Ape City, or maybe some part of it (like Earth's Brooklyn is for New York). To me, this fits everything together and makes more sence than Mario and Luigi being from our planet's Brooklyn (did anything even specify it's Brooklyn, New York?). I know it's not exactly canocal, but I just thought I'd put it out there. - Walkazo

Donkey Kong Image

Why was that image I added from Donkey Kong changed back? The orignal was low quality. I put in hours of work into that other, background free image. What's the point in changing it back? - Hyper Mushroom

The new one is very low quality and an unofficial fan image. Background is good. -- Son of Suns

Unofficial?! That was on the cover of billions of ports of that game! See for yourself! If we're just removing images because of quality someone had better sort out that image of the Mario Bros. from Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga. And BACKGROUND?! What's so good about background? - Hyper Mushroom

Did you make the image? All the other images look slightly different. Anyways, the current pic is better; it looks like a person, not a scribbly character. Background establishes setting - I wish Nintendo put characters in a setting more often. The SS image is fine - it is an official image released by Nintendo. -- Son of Suns

C'mon! you can see the lack of quality from a mile off! This is the one I removed the background from (It may look a little bad because I couldn't tell what was the background an what was the outline) and again, it took me HOURS. The only reason it looks scribbly is because he's ducking under a barrel, making him look short and wobbly, but of course that isn't how he REALLY looks. I could always get the same thing with the background so... Oh. That would mean there were no difference between the two. BUT THE ORIGINAL IS SMALL! - Hyper Mushroom

Ooof... you need to get a program to help you with that. Microsoft PhotoDraw is what I use. MS Paint is too finicky. :) --Stumpers

Parent

Mario is the Yoshi Kid's adopted parent, right? ^Plumber

Why do you ask? - Hyper Mushroom

Because if that's the case, Mario should get in major trouble for abandoning the kid to fight in the Glitz Pit after PM:TTYD was over! - Walkazo (in case you didn't notice, that was a joke).

Surname

I understand that the Mario Bros. movie established their surname as "Mario", but the movie isn't considered canon. Is there a canon source which backs this up? (and, if so, what?) -Chinju 19:35, 27 March 2007 (EDT)

Found one! The baby Mario trophy in SSBM:

"The stork delivers two babies to the MARIO household. -Hyper Mushroom

M&L:PiT

Hey, guys. I noticed that there's no reference to the Shroob invation of M&L:PiT in the Early Life section. It is my opinion that regardless of your theory of time travel (that all changes to the past happened before you traveled or that you can change the past), in the present time Mario & Luigi have helped their older selves defeat the Shroobs. Therefore, I would put a paragraph in the Early Life section about it. Please respond. If you want this done, I could put it together for you. --Stumpers

The Early Life section should only be about Baby Mario. Of course, the Shroob invasion should be mentioned, and that Baby Mario met his future self. However, there should be a fuller section in the middle of the biography, stating that the present Mario went back in time to help his past self. The Biographhy section should be written in term's of Mario's life - he fought the Shroobs as a baby, grew up, then went back in time and fought the Shroobs as an adult with his baby self. -- Son of Suns

That was... weid. Wouldn't they know how to beat them if... but wait... huh? Max2 curse time travel.

The babies didn't really remember.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheGreatBlockyBoo (talk).

Wrong Again Blocky Boo... Angry Sun 23:51, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Why is he wrong? Do you remeber abything as a baby? My earliest memories are flashes from when I was hospitalized at age 4. Mind you, the only reason I can remember anything is 'cause it was a traumatic experience, and even then I'm pretty sure the images I "remember" aren't actaully what I went through but skewed images my brain has slapped on my actual degraded memories based on what people've told me about the whole thing afterwards. Long story short, it makes perfect sense that the adult Mario Bors. wouldn't remember the Shroob incident from when they were babies. - Walkazo

SPM Info

Could somebody please put info on Mario in SPM A fan of Yoshi | Here

I don't think you're supposed to ask other people to put in information.
I am Confused 21:51, 14 April 2007 (EDT)

Royalty?

how is he royalty? Xzelion^ETC

Well, I think he was referred to as royalty in a cartoon and he did have his own castle in SML2. But he was never actually proclaimed as a king or a prince, so I'm not sure.Knife (talk) 14:40, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure he was crowned as the ruler of a few places in The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!, but I don't think he ever kept the title. -- Sir Grodus

He was never called king or prince even thought he was ruler of Mario Land. Also like Grodus said he was kinged a few times, mostly in Rap Land because in Rap Land it NEVER shows him being unkinged. Click here to see the universe. SuperLuigi821 Oh you let the hat out of the bag, Big Top!

Plus the show isn't really part of the main storyline. User:Pal101

No edited sections?

How come I can't edit sections on this page? On this huge page, section editing is very important to editors.Knife (talk) 22:27, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Similar Pics

Look at the pictures from the Land of Darkness section and the Flipped section. They're practically the same except that one of them has Tippi in it. One of these pictures does not belong to that appropriate game. Mat_Rix_007

Olympics

Um, for some reason, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, is redirecting to Mario's page.

Last Name

I heard about "Mario Mario" as a full name, but Mario the Greatest (talk) says Nintendo has said neither Mario or Luigi have last names. Confirmation? Wa _T^C_@^Y 21:34, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

I remember seeing this old interview on YouTube with Nintendo of America, back in the early days of Mario. The guy they interviewed said Mario and Luigi didn't have last names. -- Sir Grodus

Confirmation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGFRi_ueq-M ♥♪!? 21:39, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

1988 LOL, ok :P Wa _T^C_@^Y 21:41, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

But... they are the Mario Brothers! The interviwed lies!

User: Mr.Game and Watch

There's more proof up in the Surname section. - Walkazo

What happens?

With the Human and Smash Bros Tables?
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mr.Game and Watch (talk).

Are you refering to {{human}} and {{SSB}}? They are in the scroll box at the bottom of the page, you have to scroll inside the box to see them. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:39, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

Latest Appearance

Wouldn't Mario's latest appearance be Mario Strikers Charged?

Mariofan132

I dunno because there's an flame war going on right now.F g

Mario Strikers Charged was released to the world before Itadaki Street DS was. -- Son of Suns

Biography order

The current order of the biography sections is:

• Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
• Yoshi's Island DS
• Donkey Kong
• Donkey Kong '94
• Donkey Kong Jr.
• Mario Bros.
• Wrecking Crew
• Super Mario Bros.
• Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels
• Super Mario Bros. 2
• Super Mario Bros. 3
• Super Mario World
• Yoshi's Safari
• Super Mario Land
• Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins
• Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
• Super Mario 64
• Super Mario 64 DS
• Wrecking Crew '98
• Paper Mario
• Luigi's Mansion
• Super Mario Sunshine
• Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
• Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
• Mario Pinball Land
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong
• Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis
• Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
• Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix
• Super Princess Peach
• New Super Mario Bros.
• Super Paper Mario

According to MarioWiki: Chronology, SML2 has been set right after SML, because it is the direct sequel. Also, M&L: PiT has been set after M&L: SS. However, I don't think Partners in Time counts as a sequel, afaik it is a completely unrelated story with merely the same control system. Fawful doesn't change it. If it would, then PM:TTYD would be the direct sequel to PM (because of Bow). Also, I'm spektical about Mario vs DK 2 and Wrecking Crew '98. Do they belong where they are? Lastly, I think Mario Pinball Land and DDR: Mario Mix should be moved to the Spinoff section. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 10:35, 7 October 2007 (EDT)

Too many freakin' pictures.

Seriously, I think there's more pictures than words in this article. (okay, not really) But anyway, we better decide on what pictures should be deleted. I already deleted the MPDS one because it overlapped the SSB infobox. NMRodo

Just move them to the screenshots section. ;) My Bloody Valentine

<_< >_> That'll work. NMRodo

Go ahead and delete the images then. I won't stop you and besides there are rarely anything to do here anyway.(Super F22 Pilot 01:42, 20 November 2007 (EST))

pix

I saw this picture File:Mmpicro9.png in Mario bio!!! is this vandalism!! (sorry if i spelled it wrong) I think the user peter-o posted this!!! (I checked the history.) Princess Butterfly 19:48, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Its vandalism. Bye bye, Image! >:D My Bloody Valentine

Toys

I heard of action figures and toys of Mario.(Super F22 Pilot 05:06, 11 January 2008 (EST))

You'll probably find them in the Merchandise section... you can find a link on the main page. Stumpers! 19:12, 31 January 2008 (EST)

vadalism

You know how Mario's page always gets vadalism. I think there a way to stop users from causing vadal. I think it by blocking the edit page for a while. Princess Grapes Butterfly 20:57, 26 January 2008 (EST)

You can block new users from editing (like one who created an account two minutes ago for the purpose of spamming and leaving). This worked pretty well on the Super Smash Bros. Brawl article, btw. Nice to see you again, Ms. Grapes! Stumpers! 02:40, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Really I thought that only Sysop can block the users. Princess Grapes Butterfly 18:34, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Sorry, I meant the general you. You're right: only sysops can do it. PaperJorge blocked the Brawl article I think, so you could ask him. Stumpers! 23:48, 27 January 2008 (EST)

Maybe we should auto-block this too (block it from new users).Knife (talk) 19:34, 28 January 2008 (EST)

Yeah many new users start trouble. If you auto-blocked the most page that get the most vandal. That way you have more time to catch the user that vandal. Princess Grapes Butterfly 15:50, 31 January 2008 (EST)