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An analysis on the [[Clothing]] items from the [[Mario & Luigi (series)|''Mario & Luigi'' (series)]] to determine the best way to cover them. | An analysis on the [[Clothing]] items from the [[Mario & Luigi (series)|''Mario & Luigi'' (series)]] to determine the best way to cover them. | ||
==Keep the ''Mario & Luigi'' Clothing pages as they are currently== | ==Keep the ''Mario & Luigi'' Clothing pages as they are currently== | ||
Back in 2021, a proposal passed to [[Talk:Clothing#Split everything here|split every single clothing item from the | Back in 2021, a proposal passed to [[Talk:Clothing#Split everything here|split every single clothing item from the ''Mario & Luigi'' series]]. Since then, nobody has implemented this proposal, and I believe it should be overturned for a number of reasons. | ||
# '''Each page's content would be extremely small and repetitive.''' Every page would follow the pattern of "'''Name''' is a type of Clothing in ''Mario & Luigi Game''. It is a ''[type of clothing]'' that can be found at ''[store/drop/etc]'' and has ''[stats]''." Unlike the [[Super_Mario_RPG:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Stars#Armor|Armor]] from ''[[Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)|Super Mario RPG]]'', no article of clothing even gets its own image, instead taking from a set of generic sprites each game. All relevant information can and already is conveyed through the tables from their respective pages. Sure, they are a bit long, but that is the reason these pages are made in the first place. | # '''Each page's content would be extremely small and repetitive.''' Every page would follow the pattern of "'''Name''' is a type of Clothing in ''Mario & Luigi Game''. It is a ''[type of clothing]'' that can be found at ''[store/drop/etc]'' and has ''[stats]''." Unlike the [[Super_Mario_RPG:_Legend_of_the_Seven_Stars#Armor|Armor]] from ''[[Super Mario RPG (Nintendo Switch)|Super Mario RPG]]'', no article of clothing even gets its own image, instead taking from a set of generic sprites each game. All relevant information can and already is conveyed through the tables from their respective pages. Sure, they are a bit long, but that is the reason these pages are made in the first place. | ||
# '''There are literally hundreds of those items.''' in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions]]'', there are already over a hundred items between clothing and badges. Count up to ''[[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]]'' and we have well over five hundred of them. Is it really worth it to have over five hundred stub pages of barely three lines of information and not even a unique icon? | # '''There are literally hundreds of those items.''' in ''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions]]'', there are already over a hundred items between clothing and badges. Count up to ''[[Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam]]'' and we have well over five hundred of them. Is it really worth it to have over five hundred stub pages of barely three lines of information and not even a unique icon? | ||
#'''Missing information can still be added to the table articles.''' From the original proposal, the only piece of information lacking in the current pages is regarding returning gear between games. | #'''Missing information can still be added to the table articles.''' From the original proposal, the only piece of information lacking in the current pages is regarding returning gear between games. That's a vastly low percentage of the total gear in the series. This information can simply be added as notes at the bottom of each page, pointing to the relevant items above. | ||
If the problem with the current list articles is that they are too long, then I suggest a middle ground of splitting the Clothing based on type and game. For example, {{Fake link|List of Boots in ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story''}}, {{Fake link|List of Hammers in ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam''}}, etc. | If the problem with the current list articles is that they are too long, then I suggest a middle ground of splitting the Clothing based on type and game. For example, {{Fake link|List of Boots in ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story''}}, {{Fake link|List of Hammers in ''Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam''}}, etc. |
Latest revision as of 12:42, June 1, 2024
An analysis on the Clothing items from the Mario & Luigi (series) to determine the best way to cover them.
Keep the Mario & Luigi Clothing pages as they are currently
Back in 2021, a proposal passed to split every single clothing item from the Mario & Luigi series. Since then, nobody has implemented this proposal, and I believe it should be overturned for a number of reasons.
- Each page's content would be extremely small and repetitive. Every page would follow the pattern of "Name is a type of Clothing in Mario & Luigi Game. It is a [type of clothing] that can be found at [store/drop/etc] and has [stats]." Unlike the Armor from Super Mario RPG, no article of clothing even gets its own image, instead taking from a set of generic sprites each game. All relevant information can and already is conveyed through the tables from their respective pages. Sure, they are a bit long, but that is the reason these pages are made in the first place.
- There are literally hundreds of those items. in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, there are already over a hundred items between clothing and badges. Count up to Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam and we have well over five hundred of them. Is it really worth it to have over five hundred stub pages of barely three lines of information and not even a unique icon?
- Missing information can still be added to the table articles. From the original proposal, the only piece of information lacking in the current pages is regarding returning gear between games. That's a vastly low percentage of the total gear in the series. This information can simply be added as notes at the bottom of each page, pointing to the relevant items above.
If the problem with the current list articles is that they are too long, then I suggest a middle ground of splitting the Clothing based on type and game. For example, List of Boots in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, List of Hammers in Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam, etc.
Keep the Mario & Luigi Clothing pages as they are
- LadySophie17 (talk) Primary choice.
Split the Mario & Luigi Clothing articles by clothing type and game instead of individually
- LadySophie17 (talk) Secondary choice.
Continue with the 2021 split proposal
Comments
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
Remake-exclusive gear
Overals
- Cosmic Pants
- Daredevil Pants
- Defense Pants
- Flower Pants
- Hoohooros Slacks
- Muddy Jeans
- Rescue Suit
- Revenge Jeans
- Space Suit
- Stealth Suit
- Stone Slacks
- Wellness Wear
Badges
- Bean Master Badge
- Beast Badge
- Bubbles Badge
- Bullet Bill Badge
- Burn Badge
- Burning Love
- Bwaha Badge
- Elite Chuck Guy Badge
- Gravity Jump Badge
- Lightning Badge
- Pokey Flower
- Popple Badge A
- Popple Badge AA
- Queen's Token
- Rookie Emblem A
- Rookie Emblem AA
- Sea Legs Badge
Original-exclusive gear
- Mush Badge
Returning gear
Worth comparing stats and original names.
Overalls
- Heart Jeans & Heart Slacks (PiT, as Heart Pants) (BiS, DT, as Heart Wear)?
- Iron Pants (DT, PJ, as Ironclad Wear)?
- Safety Slacks (DT, as Safety Wear)?
- Shroom Slacks (PiT)
Badges
- Counter Badge (PiT)
- Salvage Badge (PiT)
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time
Returning gear
Worth comparing stats and original names.
- Golden Pants (PJ, as Golden Wear)?
- Heart Pants (BiS, DT, as Heart Wear)?
- Muscle Slacks (BiS, as Muscle Wear)?
- Star Trousers (BiS, DT, PJ as Star Wear)?
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey
The SP Socks and DX SP Socks were renamed to BP Socks and DX BP Socks in the remake.
Remake-exclusive gear
Boots
- Blaze Boots
- Farmer Boots
- Greedy Boots
- Leap Boots
- Mushroom Boots
Socks
- Badge Socks
- Counter Socks
- Excellent Socks
- Fill-up Socks
- Medical Socks
- Mushroom Socks
Overalls
- Barrier Wear
- Bros. Wear
- Excellent Wear
- Medical Wear
- Synchronized Wear
Gloves
- Excellent Gloves
- Gourmet Gloves
- Sharing Gloves
- Special Gloves DX
Accessories
- EX Badge Ring
- Parry Glasses
- Sequel Scarf
- Speed Star
- Surprisal Scarf
- Vengeance Patch
Original-exclusive gear
- Coin Boots
- Gall Socks
- Giant Shell
- Gold Ring
Gear sets
- Coin set (Boots, Socks)
- Excellent set (Socks, Wear, Gloves)
- Heavy set (Boots, Gloves)
- Medical set (Socks, Wear)
- Mushroom set (Boots, Socks, Gloves, Stone)
- Siphon set (Boots, Gloves)
- Special set (Boots, Socks, Gloves)
Returning gear
Worth comparing stats and original names.
- Coin Boots (DT)
- DEF Mush Jam (DT, PJ)
- Fighter Wear (DT, PJ)
- Heart Wear (DT)
- King Wear (DT)
- Koopa Wear (DT, PJ, as Koopa Troopa Wear)
- Master Wear (PJ)
- Mushroom Gloves (DT, PJ)
- Mushroom Stone (DT, PJ as Mushroom Amulet)
- Picnic Wear (DT, PJ)
- POW Gloves (DT, PJ)
- POW Mush Jam (DT, PJ)
- Star Wear (DT, PJ)
- Thin Wear (DT, PJ)
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
Gear Sets
- Action set (Boots, Hammer)
- Angel set (Wear, Bangle)
- Bare set (Boots, Boots DX, Hammer, Hammer DX)
- Birthday set (Boots, Hammer, Wear, Ring)
- Celebrity set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Counter set (Wear, Belt)
- Crystal set (Boots, Hammer)
- Dark set (Boots, Hammer)
- Discount set (Boots, Hammer)
- Elite set (Boots, Hammer)
- Excellent (Boots, Hammer)
- Expert set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Fighter set (Hammer, Wear)
- Glass set (Boots, Hammer)
- Golden set (Hammer, Wear)
- Heart set (Boots, Wear)
- Iron-Ball set (Boots, Hammer)
- Knockout set (Boots, Hammer)
- Master set (Boots, Hammer, Gloves)
- Metal set (Wear, Gloves)
- Mini set (Boots, Hammer, Gloves)
- Mushroom set (Gloves, Amulet)
- Picnic set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Run-Down set (Boots, Hammer)
- So-so set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Star set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Steady set (Boots, Hammer)
- Super set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
Returning gear
Worth comparing stats and original names. Unless stated, they return in PJ only.
Boots
- Anti-air Boots
- Aint-air Boots DX
- Bare Boots
- Bare Boots DX
- Bros. Boots
- Celebrity Boots
- Crystal Boots
- Elite Boots
- Expert Boots
- Farmer Boots/ Wellington Boots (PJ) (BiSDX, as Farmer Boots)
- Glass Boots
- Heart Boots
- Knockout Boots
- Master Boots
- Picnic Boots
- Run-down Boots
- Singular Boots
- So-so Boots
- Star Boots
- Steady Boots
- Super Boots
Hammers
- Blunt Hammer
- Blunt Hammer DX
- Celebrity Hammer
- Dark Hammer
- Elite Hammer
- Expert Hammer
- Fighter Hammer
- Flame Hammer
- Flame Hammer DX
- Golden Hammer
- Iron-Ball Hammer
- Iron-Ball Hammer DX
- Master Hammer
- Picnic Hammer
- Run-Down Hammer
- Singular Hammer
- So-So Hammer
- Spin Hammer
- Steady Hammer
- Super Hammer
Wear
- Angel Wear
- Bros. Wear (PJ, BiSDX)
- Charge Wear
- Counter Wear
- Cozy Wear
- Energy Wear
- Expert Wear
- Fancy Wear
- Fighter Wear
- Golden Wear
- Ironclad Wear
- Koopa Troopa Wear
- Metal Wear
- Payback Wear
- Picnic Wear
- Rally Wear
- Snare Wear
- So-so Wear
- Star Wear
- Super Wear
- Thin Wear
Gloves
- 1-Up Gloves
- Bottomless Gloves
- BP Gloves
- BP Gloves DX
- Charge Gloves
- Charge Gloves DX
- HP Gloves
- HP Gloves DX
- Master Gloves
- Metal Gloves
- Mushroom Gloves
- Rookie Gloves
- Shell Gloves
- Speed Gloves
- Stache Gloves
- Strike Gloves
- Thick Gloves
Accessories
- BP Scarf
- BP Scarf DX
- Bros. Ring
- Counter Belt
- DEF Mush Jams
- Duplex Crown
- Gold Statue
- Healthy Ring
- HP Scarf
- HP Scarf DX
- Mushroom Amulet
- POW Mush Jam
- POW Scarf
- POW Scarf DX
- Rally Belt
- Silver Statue
- Speed Scarf
- Stache Scarf
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam
Gear Sets
- Bros. set (Boots, Wear, Ring)
- Celebrity set (Boots, Hammer)
- Charge set (Wear, Gloves)
- Comet set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Counter set (Wear, Belt)
- Elite set (Boots, Hammer)
- Expert set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Fighter set (Hammer, Wear)
- Flashy set (Hammer, Wear)
- Golden set (Hammer, Wear)
- Lively set (Boots, Hammer)
- Master set (Boots, Hammer, Wear, Gloves)
- Origami set (Boots, Hammer)
- Patchwork set (Boots, Hammer)
- Picnic set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Shocking set (Boots, Hammer)
- Singular set (Boots, Hammer)
- So-so set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Star set (Boots, Hammer, Wear, Brooch)
- Steady set (Boots, Hammer)
- Super set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Stache set (Gloves, Scarf)
- Threadbare set (Boots, Hammer, Wear)
- Woven set (Boots, Hammer)
Returning gear
Worth comparing stats and original names.
Overalls
- Guard Wear (SSDX, as Guard Slacks)?