MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/13

Any proposal decided and past is archived here. Use the scroll box to see votes and comments. This page is protected to maintain the discussion as was. Please add archived proposals to the bottom of the page. Mario Kart Name Changes NO CHANGE 1-12 okay... I have noticed that all the articles on the wii karts all have their european names. Why? What's wrong with the american ones? They used to have american names! and so, I propose we change the article names... Deadline: March 3, 2009, 17:00 Proposer: Dryest bowser (talk) Change them Dryest bowser (talk)- per myself Leave them Son of Suns (talk) - Per the recent proposal that just passed changing the names. Both names are listed at the beginning of the article, and both are even included in the Mario Kart Wii vehicles template. We are simply using the first English title in order to keep consistency and be fair to our international friends. Stumpers (talk) - See below. Paper Yoshi (talk) - Per all. Clyde1998 (talk) - Per the First English Artical Name. Everthing was changed to it's first English Name. So Mario Kart Wii Kart and Bike names changed to its first english name. So Nostalgia 1 was Classic Dragster. Zafum (talk) - I really hate that the European name proposal got through, and I wish we could reverse it, but I have to agree with Stumpers. After 6 months, I hope somebody immediately makes a proposal to reverse it. Walkazo (talk) - Per Zafum. M&SG (talk) - I asked the same question myself. Son of Suns mentioned that the reason for the European names is so that we're fair to the European gamers. Keep note that Mario Kart Wii was released in America AFTER it was released in Europe. If America got the game first, then the American names would be used instead. Yoshario (talk) - Per SoS. Really. We just had this proposal not a short while ago. ToadetteAnime4evur (talk) - per Zafum. R.O.B 128 (talk) - European names > American names at times. Mario5x (talk) - Per all. Arend (talk) - The Mario Kart Wii names we now use on Mario Wiki arn't just used in Europe, but also in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Japan. Comments In accordance with a previous proposal, for six months following a given proposal, no proposals can be made to overturn it. For example, we just had the proposal to use European names for subjects which first appeared in games that were released in Europe first. It passed, and so, for the next six months, we can't make proposals to overturn it. Therefore, this proposal is invalid, but there's no way you could have been expected to know... sorry about this. Stumpers (talk) (Hey Stumpers, have you found a link for that six-month rule? It would be nice if we could point to something in writing.) -- Son of Suns (talk) I can't remember such a rule, to be honest. Time Q (talk) Me neither. It's a pretty good-sounding rule to me, though. Although, 6 months is quite a long time. Bloc Partier (talk) Yeah, we really need to find if such a policy has ever really been established by proposal. And I agree, six months (half a year!) is a long time regardless. -- Son of Suns (talk) We operated on it - I remember several proposals being shot down because of it, but if no one remembers it, and I can't find it, perhaps we should make a proposal about it. :P Stumpers (talk) If we do, however, it should be a shorter time, like 1-3 months. 6 months is too long. ToadetteAnime4evur (talk) I definitely agree with that. -- Son of Suns (talk) As do I. Stumpers (talk) Agreed. 3 months tops. Anyone want to make it? Bloc Partier (talk) Well it was Stumpers' idea. Maybe he wants to make it. ToadetteAnime4evur (talk) Arend: Those aren't the Japanese names. o_O ToadetteAnime4evur (talk) The PAL version uses more names that are identical with the Japanese names or that are closer to them. For example, the B Dasher Mk. 2 has its original name, and the kart "Hot Rally" is known as Rally Romper in the PAL version. The American version removes the namely references to the B Dasher and to the 3D Hot Rally vehicle Monster by calling them "Sprinter" and "Tiny Titan." --Grandy02 (talk) Oicic. That's one of the things I don't like about NoA. ToadetteAnime4evur (talk) Personally, why the hell was it changed anyways? Doesn't that just screw things up for us Americans? :/ --The Blue Dragon (talk) It was decided in a proposal some days ago. Check the archive. Paper Yoshi (talk) I know that, P_Y. But where did the idea come from in the first place? --The Blue Dragon (talk) In the words of proposer Son of Suns, "This should help us curb American cultural imperialism at the wiki while simultaneously fostering a spirit of internationalism." The proposal passed by one vote after a long discussion with many insults against Americans and no insults sent back (unless "go USA" said once is an insult). :P Go figure, right? If it's any consolation, Blue, the proposal only affects a handful of titles, so it's not like it even matters that much to us in the US (lol), but, based on what was said during the proposal it apparently means a lot to people in Europe. Stumpers (talk)