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STATUS: Will mostly just pop on to check recent changes and sometimes edit due to tight personal circumstances.

Current projects:

Creating articles on all archived Saturday Supercade content related to Mario
Creating articles on certain Paper Mario: Sticker Star Scraps (which are technically key items)
Raise Hotel Mario to featured status
Raise Odyssey to featured status

Finished projects:

Created articles on Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker levels
Created articles on Super Mario Maker sample levels
Created articles on Yoshi's Woolly World / Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World main levels
Created articles on Super Mario Sunshine bonus episodes
Helped create articles on Super Mario Galaxy 2 missions
Created articles on Super Mario Run levels
Created articles on Super Mario Maker event courses
Created articles on Super Mario Maker official courses
Created articles on Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze levels
Created articles on Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam missions
Created articles on Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door missions
Created articles on Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle main levels
Created articles on Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle main challenges
Created articles on Minion Quest: The Search For Bowser missions
Created articles on Mario & Luigi: Dream Team key items
Created articles on Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! levels
Created articles on Hotel Mario levels
Improved articles on all Yoshi's Safari levels

Next projects:

Possibly create articles on all remaining WarioWare: D.I.Y. microgames

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^(T|C)

RE: MP9

Quite a few of the minigame modes, like Endurance Valley, or Mini-Game Coaster have articles. I'm not disagreeing with the fact that these can work better merged than as separate article, I'm just saying there are arguments for having them split, and I think this should be done following a discussion rather than just blindly merging them. Yoshi876 (talk)

Ouch

Sorry about the temporary ban, mate. Liked you as a wiki contributor, but I hope you improve your conduct towards others after your ban expires. I'll see you on October 29. Ray Trace^(T|C) 21:51, 15 October 2018 (EDT)

Oh no

You were such a good contributor and I am now depressed because you got temporally banned. I'll see you on October 29th, 2018. Syncro 263892 XL 21:55, 15 October 2018 (EDT)

Uh Oh

I’m sorry about all this... I’m not exactly a high ranking member, so I’m not in on all the details, but I’ll miss seeing your name over and over as I check the recent changes! See you soon...-PianoKing03

Aw man

Dang, sorry that you got blocked. I liked to go to the List of Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story quotes page to check which new quotes you had added. See you in a week! Scrooge200 (talk) 00:02, 16 October 2018 (EDT)

OH MY!!!

I see you have been blocked... See you in a week... -- Fan Of Yoshi 07:49, 17 October 2018 (EDT)

Hi

Hey, welcome back. Hope you had a productive time while you were blocked, like I did. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 02:46, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

^When I said that, I meant "I had a productive time when I was blocked," not sure if I made that clear. XD Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:23, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Soarin' Stu

Because Dark Horse is lazy and now this is technically some tier of "official." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:07, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Re:Yellow Switch

So sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I can't say that I'm fully back to editing yet, but I'll check on the name now. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 19:26, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Oddly enough, the guide doesn't seem to mention the switch at all in the Vim Factory (although incidentally, the block at the end of the tutorial area is called the "Event Block", page 27). If it appears at another point in the game, let me know so I can check that! Hello, I'm Time Turner. 19:57, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Proposals

Why... did you make separate proposals for each game mode when you could have covered it all in one proposal here? -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 19:59, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Oh, ok. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 20:02, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Forgot to say...

Ah! I forgot to say welcome back, since you got unblocked! Welcome back! -- Fan Of Yoshi 09:16, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Redirects

Per MarioWiki:Redirects, If a mainspace article has existed for over a year and is moved for any reason, and unless a new page is created using the old title, then the old page title should remain as a redirect to the new title and protected. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 10:41, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

You went against the rules. What is there to wait for? Hello, I'm Time Turner. 10:59, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

The rule was put in place by administrators. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 11:06, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Some questions

Back in September, I messaged you on the forums about a vandal attack with IPs that shared a range and computer information with you, asking if you knew anything about that. You never responded to that, but the vandal looks to have returned with the recent Green Star edits (not mention attacking my talk page). Five of the IPs in the range share computer information with you, one sharing a direct IP match. Seeing as you're more active on the wiki than you are on the boards, and that you were MIA during the attacks, I'm asking this here. I'd like to know if you've edited from any shared computers, such as those being from school or work? Or if this is a sibling with access to a home computer? This is also a possibility we have to consider: Were you editing anonymously from any of the IPs? 17:27, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Re:T-Rex trampolines

Page 47: "Capture the T-Rex inside the Dinosaur Nest (see Power Moon #12 for location) and carefully step off the far edge of the plateau onto the ledge below. Smash the fossilized rocks on this ledge to uncover a Power Moon. Use the hat trampoline to return to the upper level and grab the Power Moon with the T-Rex."

I know that there's a separate object called the Hat Trampoline, but that's the only reference to any kind of bouncing thing with the T-Rex I can find (and considering the accompanying image for the section is this, it may be relevant). Hello, I'm Time Turner. 00:12, 31 October 2018 (EDT)

Page 203: "Capture a Lava Bubble and swim up the path to find a lava cannon at the top, primed to launch bubble-Mario high up, right into the stew under the patrolling bird boss."

Page 207: "Lava cannons throughout the region can place Lava Bubbles in distant or remote landing spots while offering scenic views along the way."

And so on and so forth. From the look of things, "lava cannon" is used consistently. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 00:01, 1 November 2018 (EDT)

(using the digital guide, don't have the physical guide on me atm, can get the physical pages to you later)

Darker Side: "Duos of moving cog-like platforms line the way up this tower. At several points along the route upward, you have to extend an Uproot’s legs to quickly land on the higher of two moving platforms. This needs to be handled while Burrbo hordes appear on motionless platforms along the way."

I can't find any mention of it anywhere else, and the names here are too generic for an article. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 21:08, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

Yoshi's Island Spring Water

Either way, according to the page's history, it's named that in the game itself by a sign. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:37, 1 November 2018 (EDT)

RE: Lava cannon

Sorry for the late response; the lava cannon image is up, and here's the image for the trampoline. Mario JC 07:57, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

RE: NSMB2 Coin Rush

Policy states levels get separate articles, so yes. They're actually named "First Course," "Second Course" and "Third Course" in-game ("COURSE 1," "COURSE 2" and "COURSE 3" are their Japanese names) so I'd use those as the titles, with the level pack as the identifiers. Mario JC 07:20, 10 November 2018 (EST)

RE: Plunger

Nothing other than the generic stuff that led to it getting deleted. Mario JC 22:32, 11 November 2018 (EST)

Objects and items

How I've seen it, and how it's always been organised on the wiki, is that items are mainly collectibles (except in the context of games like Smash where they're organised by what the game refers to as "items") while objects are part of the environment or things that the player can interact with but doesn't actually collect. Objects like Green Shells and Trampolines have always been categorised as such, so I don't understand what you meant in your summary. Mario JC 22:29, 12 November 2018 (EST)

Mario is Missing

You don't have to edit the template each and every time I make a new page. I'd rather make one large edit at the end that includes all of the links, rather that filling up the history with a bunch of small edits. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate it if you'd let me handle this. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 22:31, 12 November 2018 (EST)

Hamma, Bamma, & Flare

Pretty sure that's the team's name in-game, as such, their official name. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 16:53, 20 November 2018 (EST)

(By which I mean, ampersand is objectively correct.) Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 17:49, 20 November 2018 (EST)

I checked a handy text dump and it does indeed say "Hamma, Bamma, and Flare", so our ampersand was actually wrong. But yeah, if it were "Hammer, Bamma, & Flare", then it should be the same style as it was in the source. The move worked out, though the exact reason was maybe not as fine. LinkTheLefty (talk) 18:00, 20 November 2018 (EST)

Well, I've been wrong before. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:50, 20 November 2018 (EST)

RE: Featured article list

Featured list would make sense. Mario JC 05:46, 26 November 2018 (EST)

RE:Mario vs. Donkey Kong ready to be featured once more?

I've been thinking about this. Unfortunately, the article is still held back by the image template in the "Enemies and obstacles" section and the more-media template in the "Media" section. I intend to upload the remaining sprites and the game's soundtrack at some point to get rid of these colored rectangles of terror. I think a table for the reception would be welcome too. Only after these additions are made, the page will be fit to be featured again!

And thank you for your invitation. -- -- KOOPA CON CARNE 12:57, 30 November 2018 (EST)

RE: Stripe Pointer

If it's an unofficial title and the creator forgot the {{conjecture}} template, probably. You should ask on the talk page or someone who owns the games first. Mario JC 19:19, 3 December 2018 (EST)

Boss Bass

Your comment there doesn't work, because Porcupuffer's original behavior was "swim quickly along the surface and don't jump." Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 12:04, 5 December 2018 (EST)

Wow you responded at like the worst time possible, that was right as I was leaving for today's programming final. Which I crashed and burned in. Good day to you. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2018 (EST)

Feeling better now. Anyways, Ptooie with Stalking Piranha Plant isn't the best example either, as other, unrelated Piranha Plants can walk, and not all Ptooies can walk anyways. The Spikeball is the defining feature with them, and no Ptooies were ever found floating on the surface of water on leaves resembling those of a Jumping Piranha Plant. Additionally, the large red fish in YIDS acts exactly like the one in SMB3, with the only difference being the DS could handle larger sprites than the NES, as well as sprite rotation. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:56, 5 December 2018 (EST)

You additionally never responded to LTL's counterargument on there. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 05:49, 9 December 2018 (EST)

"The move is capitalized in the manual"

That's technically true, but check again under "Shell Mario" on NTSC or PAL page 24: "Press left or right on while holding the dash button to perform a shell dash and go crashing into enemies." Then the move is referred to as "shell dashing" and "shell-dashing" in lowercase. Yes, there is one instance of "Shell Dash", but that is as a header - everything else in the manual page indicates that "Shell dash" should be the name of the article. LinkTheLefty (talk) 11:32, 6 December 2018 (EST)

About Switch Panel

It may technically be more recent, but guides are still lower priority than manuals, which are second only to in-game sourcing. Two manuals that came with the game should qualify it as the "most commonly used English name" over the Prima version as well, so I'm not sure about this one. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:49, 15 December 2018 (EST)

What LinkTheLefty said. You didn't need to bring this up with an admin, MarioWiki:Naming clearly lists instruction manuals as the higher priority source.

Mario JC 23:16, 15 December 2018 (EST)

One-off name changes of established subjects happen all the time in guides - it's precisely why, for example, Crowber (from an older Nintendo Power guide) has never been renamed to Crow or Raven (from newer Prima guides). Admittedly, I think Prima got better about it over time, but still, it's safer to err on the side of caution and stick to Nintendo's original version. LinkTheLefty (talk) 06:17, 16 December 2018 (EST)

Blue Lava Bubble

Hey there! I noticed you provided a scan of the blue Lava Bubble artwork from Super Mario 3D World, does it gives it a specific name, or simply Lava Bubble? The talk page is currently deciding wether we change it to Fire Bubble (one of it internal filenames), or leave it as Lava Bubble (blue). What name does it gives it in the Prima and/or mentions? -- Fan Of Yoshi 11:39, 18 December 2018 (EST)

RE: Trading cards

That's fine. Mario JC 18:58, 7 January 2019 (EST)

Torpedo Ted's launcher

Hey, does the New Super Mario Bros. U Prima Guide make a mention on Launch Pad and Targeting Ted Launch Pad? Or they are generically referred as Torpedo Ted launchers? Or they weren't mentionned at all, and only Torpedo Teds are mentionned? -- Fan Of Yoshi 11:51, 13 January 2019 (EST)

RE: Heart

A lot of those should go, but it shouldn't be deleted outright. Mario JC 20:54, 15 January 2019 (EST)

RE: Bowser Jr. infobox

Alright, thanks! -- Too Bad! Waluigi Time! 19:12, 19 January 2019 (EST)

MarioWiki administrative categories

I see no reason why it should, either, same with the other categories inside it. Mario JC 19:14, 24 January 2019 (EST)

X

Given how little information there is for Bowser's Castle X, do you think it'd be better to compile the bosses into a list? Or perhaps group them with their counterparts? Also, given this, they may not exist at all? 16:29, 25 January 2019 (EST)

According to this video I found, the bosses aren't actually given a name in game, when matches with the removed edit above. The cutscenes are skipped, but all they are is just Bowser growing. Not sure if there's a menu that says their names, though.

16:45, 25 January 2019 (EST)

Crazy Kong

You reversed my reversal regarding the cover of Crazy Kong. That picture is from a Commodore 64 bootleg of CK. CK was only licensed for the arcade in Japan which was terminated in January 1982 when Falcon breached the contract. Nintendo retired the CK name as it outlived its purpose which was to make up for the shortfall in Donkey Kong arcade cabinets. All legitimate ports of DK in non-arcade platforms use the DK name. The Commodore 64 bootleg was made by Interceptor Software which directly competed against Atarisoft's officially licensed DK port for the C64; both released in 1983. Another CK bootleg for the C64 was made by Supersoft also in 1983. Atari's official C64 port was far superior to both CK bootlegs which lacked quality control.--Platform (talk) 00:35, 26 January 2019 (EST)

RE: Rob

No, a lot of people are more likely to search for R.O.B. (being a playable character in MKDS, which in itself is notable) than the minor NPC. Mario JC 08:30, 26 January 2019 (EST)

RE: Dice

Done. Mario JC 20:50, 6 February 2019 (EST)

Mama Luigi quotes

Quick question, which quotes are missing the Mama Luigi page? I am planning to attempt to feature that page once Dan Hennessey and Gordon Masten's pages are made, so knowing which quotes remain would be appreciated. Thanks! Doomhiker (talk) 12:44, 10 February 2019 (EST)

The only thing Bowser says when Yoshi eats his key is "wow" and he then goes on about Yoshi going on a crash diet. This is the video I used for reference. Doomhiker (talk)

13:01, 10 February 2019 (EST)

I decided to nominate Mama Luigi's page so you can vote on it if you want to. Doomhiker (talk)

13:50, 11 February 2019 (EST)