Talk:Donkey Kong Country

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Stub?

There's a stub mark at the bottom at this article, but this article looks big enough not to be a stub. I'll remove it until further notice. --Taj The Genie 17:54, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Yeah, it's fine. 3D, stub'd.

Kingdom of Kong

Did you guys notice that little sentence on the right side of the box? Does that mean that the areas in the game are part of the "Kingdom of Kong" or something? Or is it not canonical? Stumpers! 20:38, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

I don't think it is canonical, since it has not been mentioned again. Or it could be some weird translation error. Who knows?Knife (talk) 21:44, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, or it could have been some of Nintendo of America's promotional additions. I mean, I've never heard of it in any game. ;) Donkey Kong Island works fine right now, anyway. :) Stumpers! 00:00, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Necky's Nutmare (GBC only) bonus areas?

Does anyone know for sure, how many bonus areas are in Necky's Nutmare (4th stage of Chimp Caverns, in the GBC version)? --TheUltimateKoopa 17:14, 18 February 2010 (EST)

References

In the "References in Other Games" section there is three Viva Piñata sections and they all say the same, yet they are three different games. Supermariofan14

Monkey/Ape

I have noticed the article seems to use "monkey" and "ape" interchangably at parts; these two words in fact refer to very different sub-orders of primates. It bugs me a little and makes the article look less professional, and may get confusing as well as Donkey Kong is an ape while Diddy Kong appears to be a monkey, so using either of those terms appears to imply that the sentence in question is talking only about Diddy or Donkey even when it's in fact referring to either (e.g. "the monkey in play" in the Gameplay section). Just seemed like something worth pointing out, especially now that the article may be featured.--vellidragon 23:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll fix all that soon. Thanks for pointing it out. Fawfulfury65

Done. Fawfulfury65

Super Game Boy

Does the GBC version of this game have enhancements on the Super Game Boy? A Link to the Present 19:50, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Probably not because GBC games don't work on the SGB. Fawfulfury65

Yes they do but you are right probably not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Super_Game_Boy_games (sorry if that sounded harsh) A Link to the Present 22:34, 15 February 2011 (EST)

Competition Cartridge

Is [this thing] worthy of a separate article, or would it be better off as a section on this page? --Glowsquid 19:36, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Well, it is mainly just a remake, but we do have an article on Nintendo World Championships, so it would only be consistent to have this in its own article. Fawfulfury65

Sales Speak

I'm Paper Mario Kart and this game's sales are about 9.3 million for the original, 2.19 million for the GBC remake, and 1.92 for the GBA remake. Check out my other Sales Speaks!

DK64: Sequel or not?

Is there a reason why everyone simply refuses to acknowledge that Donkey Kong 64 is a sequel to Donkey Kong Country? Just because "Country" isn't part of the title and the gameplay's a little different doesn't mean it's not a DKC game. Super Mario World's not called Super Mario Bros. 4 (not overseas, anyway), but it's still considered the official sequel to Super Mario Bros. 3.

I know what you are all thinking: Rare could've easily called it "Donkey Kong Country 64" or just "Donkey Kong Country 4" if they wanted to confirm it was a sequel. Well, that's not necessarily the case. There's a lot of sequels in the overall Mario series with titles that don't match. Here's some examples:

Donkey Kong-->Donkey Kong Jr.-->Donkey Kong III

Super Mario World-->Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island-->Yoshi's Story

And Nintendo still flubs on consistently titling their sequels (Super Smash Bros. for Wii U/3DS, anyone?). Since DK64 came out years before Returns or Tropical Freeze were even conceived, this could have been the fourth Donkey Kong Country game when it was out. Let's not forget that DK64 seemed like the last game in that storyline until Returns was released earlier this decade, so it could've been a "grand finale" to the Kremling storyline. It could even still be DKC 4, since the later two games aren't even numbered (unlike the thing with Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic 4).

And if this argument isn't good enough for the game to "count" (even when it clearly carries on after DKC 3) as a sequel, we should at least acknowledge it and its content more widely on this Wiki, instead of pretending it doesn't exist, since I don't recall anyone at Nintendo/Rare ever saying Donkey Kong 64 was non-canon or that it wasn't an official sequel to DKC. 65.29.237.60 22:18, 4 March 2015 (EST)

I'll tackle your examples of other dissenting titles first (I also disagree that Super Mario World is a "sequel" to Super Mario Bros. 3 and argue more like a spiritual successor rather than a true sequel, but it was also referred to as "Super Mario Bros. 4" so it's rather an exception to the rule). Yoshi's Story is not really a true "sequel" to Yoshi's Island; even the article itself states that it's a "spiritual" sequel meaning that yes, it's a follow-up in some sort of way but it's not 100% the case. Donkey Kong III is a sole reference to the first two games, hence why it's called "DK III" there. And Super Mario Bros. technically has TWO sequels to the original game. That is a bit muddled up but not the point of ths argument.

The problem I have with your argument is that you said, "it could have been this" and "it could possibly have been that" and that's veering on speculation. The only evidence for your claims is that it's seemingly the last DK game until Returns. I also have to refute this with further speculation that it may have been possible that Rare may have another DK game planned before it was bought out by Microsoft; they were even developing Donkey Kong Racing at the time. As far as I know, there isn't much evidence to the "it could have been the grand finale to DK" other than maybe some hindsight due to Rare being bought out.

So in my opinion, yes, DK64 is some sort of spiritual successor to DKC like how Yoshi's Story is to Yoshi's Island: they are both very similar games to their precedents but they also have significant key differences that make them stand out on their own. It even mentions in the Donkey Kong 64 article in the beginning as a follow-up to the Donkey Kong Country games, which is precisely what it is. Ray Trace^(T|C) 23:00, 4 March 2015 (EST)

First off, "follow-up" and "sequel" are basically the same thing: a continuation.

Second, the article for DK64 may acknowledge it, but all the other articles scarcely acknowledge its existence unless it was specifically associated with that game. Heck, the Kremling Krew's article didn't even mention what they did in DK64 until I added a couple paragraphs describing it just a few days ago. I mean, did everyone else that actually played the game die or something? I'm aware that the Wiki's editors can't go around checking every game that's been released, but at least a sentence or two would be nice. Donkey Kong 64 is more than 15 years old right now, so it seems silly that only a few articles actually acknowledge its content past a tiny summary at the most.

Bottom line: DK64 deserves more acknowledgment than what it's getting.65.29.237.60 04:45, 5 March 2015 (EST)

While the Donkey Kong arcade example is correct, Super Mario World 2 is a "prequel" to Super Mario World, and Yoshi's Story isn't a sequel to anything; it's its own game. Also, the Super Smash Bros. example doesn't work, since it seems that the games aren't seen as sequels to each other, but rather individual installments in a larger series.

To get on to the main point, while 64 definitely continues on from the SNES Donkey Kong Country games, I wouldn't say it's generally recognized as being an installment in the Country series proper, and to me, to put it there with the others right after saying that DKC is the first installment in the series implies that 64 is a proper installment rather than a standalone title that takes place within the context of the series. Captain Toad is set directly before Super Mario 3D World and it's a spinoff title; while 64 isn't a spinoff I wouldn't say it's directly part of the series. If there were a better way to implement it, or if its fine and I'm just being dumb, then I won't mind.

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