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Should the game appearances and playable-character roles sections be consolidated? That might make more sense. -Stumpers

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Most FAQs and stuff I've read separate starring roles and non-playable appearances. It makes sense. Waluigi Freak 99 14:15, 4 September 2006 (EDT)

It would be also necessary to have a picture of Princess Daisy on a yellow parasol which was from Mario Party 3. --PeachWoman

Relationships

Shouldn't there be a section under Relationships about Wario. After all, he was the real mastermind behind Daisy's kidnapping, so it would be evident that she dislikes Wario, right? My Bloody Valentine

I don't think there would be much to write about...but meh. Fixitup

Kay-O. Come to think about it, nah, leave it out. It would seem wierd, as it is worthless speculation, that has only happened once. I think the relationship to Waluigi section should be removed, though. That is just wierd. My Bloody Valentine

Well I cut the Waluigi section but apparently someone liked it..so i'm not gonna go there. Fixitup

I am sick of this, guys, it is not needed. I am holding a vote, keep the Waluigi section, or get rid of it. AND DON'T VOTE KEEP IT, JUST COS' YOU LIKE WALUIGI!!! My Bloody Valentine

Get rid of the Waluigi Section

1. My Bloody Valentine

Edition

where are the edition format for each section? the article is too long and i have to change the info chosing the whole article edition. somebody can explain this? ¢oincoll€ctor

Daisy getting a double bogey or worse

If Daisy is yelling "No, no, no, no, no, no, no!! You KLUTZ!!", who is she yelling it to? --PeachWoman

The player messing up. That means Daisy belongs in Category:Characters who break the Fourth Wall. Wa _T^C_@^Y 01:36, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Or she's talking to herself. Depends on your interpretation. Don't you ever yell at yourself when you've really screwed up? ...maybe I'm just weird. Stumpers! 19:23, 29 November 2007 (EST)

That it does...but how are we going to decide? User:Imperialscouts

Well, breaking the forth wall has previously meant mentioning the player for more than that (Lord Crump, for example). I think also the "Get it together..." thing she says is more indication that she is talking to herself, because she's definately not going to go from anger towards us to complete calm. I could see it only if she was talking to herself the whole time. Plus, she doesn't make eye contact with the palyer. Stumpers! 01:41, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Stumpers: I would agree with you on this. I always yell at myself (and the game. =P) when I screw up. Daisy wasn't facing the player when she said that sentence, so she is very likely talking to herself. The only guys who know, are Nintendo and Camelot! >_> My Bloody Valentine I would say take her out of the Category, but, that's my opinion. =|

Poll for main pic

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Use Pic 2

1. Cobold (talk · contribs)
2. Bean
3. Wa _T^C_@^Y – this is easy. Pic 1 has a white background, while Pic 2 is transparent.
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5. Fixitup – Not only does pic 2 have a transparent bg but it has also obviously been made more recently.

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1. My Bloody Valentine Kay-O. This one is better than Pic 1.

Comments

Pic 2 wins, just get this over with! Max2 (talk)

Wha-...what the heck???

Why can't I edit the Daisy page? I can edit othe rpages but not this one...Fixitup

It has been protected due to an edit war. When the above poll it closed, it will be unprotected by a sysop again. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 14:16, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Biased?

Daisy's personality secton seems biased to me. How Daisy's always called beautiful as well as a tomboy. I've only seen her called that in one game and that's Mario Party 3. I deleted it but it's been reverted. The Future secton also has no back up to it, has there been any hint at all for Daisy to be in Mario & Sonic, or SSBB? If there haven't been any hints at all then I don't see how they belong there but it was also reverted.
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by S7ilver (talk).

Sounds like Fixitup is being an unfair jerk, as he always is to this article. Wa _T^C_@^Y 11:27, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

Hey, quit it. Fixitup did a wonderful job with this article, just didn't neutralize it. Maybe we should create a template like on Wikipedia about "This article needs neutrality or something".Knife (talk) 13:44, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

OK, I'll agree I overreacted to the above. A NPOV-fix template is a good idea. However, there's no denying Fixitup is fasincated with Daisy, even obsessed. Wa _T^C_@^Y 16:48, 26 July 2007 (EDT)

WHAT?! I already explained why I said she was often remarked as beautiful. Also, Mario & Sonic at the Olympics is going to have over 20 characters and wouldn't it make sense that if Daisy was in? Why wouldn't it? Also a lot of people have a chance to get into Brawl they don't need hints as long as they are not limited due to something Sakurai has said! Besides some hints are that there was previously a Wario costume and trophy and now he's playable, Daisy had a costume and trophy so well? BTW calling me a jerk was unnecessary I never did any name calling Wayoshi! I may be obsessed about Daisy but I don't make up crap! I've been to various Japanese Mario game websites where I've seen quite a few translations showing Daisy as the beautiful tom-boy and Peach as the smart princess. You know, I think you're just upset because you were not actually improving you were trying to make it your way. You should have came to me about this first instead of acting like calling me out would have everyone jump me! Maybe if you would talk to ME about this on my talk page I could've discussed this with you politely but nooo. Fixitup

Is better edit technichal info or fan opinion info?

¢oincoll€ctor

Although it seems obvious, it's still not confirmed, so it shouldn't go in until it's confirmed. No assumptions. And I said I overreacted to the jerk issue, and no I wasn't trying to improve it first "in my way". Wa _T^C_@^Y 12:14, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

CC I have no clue what you're trying to ask. Fixitup

Whether she's beautiful or not should be determined by how other characters in game react to her... such as the fake Millinium Star. There you go. Problem solved. She's been considered a tomboy forever: Mario Tennis, Super Smash Bros. Melee, and as seen in her actions in Mario Party 3 (punching Bowser out) and her pure energy in her other games. How did this become a huge issue? Oh, right. We also have an indication that she will be in M&S@OG (the flags), but I really don't know how we can be certain she'll be in Brawl yet. I probably just said a lot of stuff that has already been said. Stumpers!

Hey, I agree with Fixup here. In the Mario Kart: Double Dash!! game manual it say that "Daisy is so cute she has become something of an Idol"...I think that counts as beautiful. Also, while I doubt that she will be in Brawl (unfortunatly in my opion) I think there is a good chance that she will appear in the Next Smash Bros. game. Not that it matters...just a thought. User:Imperialscouts

Has Daisy really been confirmed for...

Has Daisy been confirmed for Mario kart wii and Mario and Sonic Olympic Games??? Javier12345

There is reason to believe she will be in Olympic games because a flag of hers is seen there. However, there is no support yet for being in Mario Kart Wii. The only support we have is that she was in Double Dash. However, Donkey Kong Junior will tell you that it doesn't mean a thing to be in an earlier game! :) Stumpers! 21:19, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

Sorry stumpers but I have to laugh at your expense. Donkey Kong Junior is the current DK. Check out the page on Wikipedia. The old DK got, well, old. It's the little hair dohickey you can tell them apart by. User:Imperialscouts

Notable Screenshots

If we really need this section (I didn't see something like that on other pages), I'd say we keep to notable screenshots. That means not screenshots where Daisy is some small figure, like the screenshots of the Mario Party mini-games. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 15:50, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

Maybe we could change it to something else. Those screenshots are good, but they aren't notable. Keep the gallery, but name it something else, not Notable. My Bloody Valentine

Brawl

Actually, even though I hate to admit it, Daisy has a fair chance of NOT being in Brawl. - Luv, Peachluver

What the...? It's up again? Ok, Mr. who-adds-this-all-the-time, once for all, when there's no information about something for Brawl, do NOT add a note. For more information, look at the guidelines set up at the Super Smash Bros. Pipe Project. I would also like to remind you that speculation has no place in an encyclopedia. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 12:07, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Although it's painfully obvious many characters have a fair chance of getting in brawl (including Daisy :P) Cobold's right. If Sakurai didn't mention nothing than we shouldn't. fixitup

I don't know who keeps adding it, but everytime someone does, I think that it is allowed, and I expand the SSBB information. Sorry :( My Bloody Valentine

Played Mario Tennis GBC?, remember she was there?

Until they fix it, this will be an uncomplete article.

If someone has the game and already beated Mario and Peach or just Mario then go to Mario World to verify and tell here she is there.

I don't have the game, so of course I can't play it! My Bloody Valentine

That's not my problem you are not in the list.

Just make some sense, do you really think I actually started making fake screenshots my self just for, as you said? I know she's there because I have it and then, how can you say that Daisy is not in the game if you have not even asked or played or then, is Daisy in Mario is Missing? she is there too but I could just like you say those screenshots are fake, but in fact they are all real. Is it yet THAT HARD?

Three things to tell ya:

1. Don't try to erase another user's opinions
2. Please, sign your comments by now.
3. Someone is against to your proofs about your screenshots?

¢oincoll€ctor

And who else would s/he be? Pokemon DP and this section as I said is mainly for those who have the game.

OK I understood ya, i don't have the game either, but if you have, and you saw that Daisy appears in that game, your info is acceptable, you can write that. Now, I want to know, where did you find that pics, eh? ¢oincoll€ctor

Er, ripped from a ROM, maybe? My Bloody Valentine

then you cant help here to make the article a complete one. or if you belive, can you?

OK, no need to flame and argue about this! If you felt this needed to be put on the article, why didn't you do it yourself? Just put the dang Images on the page. My Bloody Valentine

Alright, then I shall put some previous deleted Daisy's quotes when in the game Nina/Alex and Kate/Harry arrives Mario World in the game.

Done!

You have REALLY got to start signing your comments on these talk pages. My Bloody Valentine Oh, and good job on the article.

Thanks

Main Quote

I think the Main Quote should be something to actually describe her or her character, not just a random exclamation. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 15:23, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

Fine I'll change it to something that shows off her personality a little more. Not like I chose the current quote anyway. Fixitup

If you've checked the history, the current main quote was some "Oohh" and "Aaah" when I posted this. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 17:17, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

Understood. I know where you were coming from. :P Fixitup 17:29, 26 October 2007 (EDT)

that quote you found it fixitup is at Mario Tennis website.

¢oincoll€ctor she doesn't tell this in the game exactly.

Last two MSC Bios sections

Fixitup, just so you know, there is also a US and a European Super Mario Strikers website. Each actually has different character bios. Check both sites, and you'll notice both of the bios is completely different. So, which should we choose? The info that was in the game itself, or both bios'? My Bloody Valentine It is the same case with this. The official site and the game can be interpreted as two different things.

I think we should go with the Info that was in the game itself. User:Imperialscouts

Yeah, so, remove the last two sections on the MSC Bios? My Bloody Valentine

What Art Goes With What Game

As you can see here, [1] , this artwork of Daisy is used for MPDS. Seeing as this is the first game it is used for on its own as newer artwork, and there is no evident MPDS artwork for her, this is what I'm going to refer to as her artwork per that game? Fixitup

Has Daisy really been confirmed to appear in someway in SSBB?

I really hope she is playable, but is it really confirmed that she will appear in some shape or form in SSBB? That would be awsome, no to Daisy as alt. for Peach!

Eh, yes she has. In an official video a sticker of her was shown. I doubt any more characters are going to be confirmed, but she'll make more appearances in the game than that.. BTW Don't forget to leave your name. Fixitup

Maybe she make an appearance as an assist trophy. (Or maybe a playable charater.) Princess Grapes Butterfly 21:37, 1 February 2008 (EST)

Yes, but hasn't the final roster already been confirmed for only 35 characters Daisy is not apart of that roster :( Or is there going to be more? -koolkid123

Well I guess we have to wait untill the games is release. Princess Grapes Butterfly 15:53, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Fake Image

The image used in the gallery to show Daisy's role in Mario is Missing! has been recolored. This fact has been admitted to on the image's page. If you look at the original image, you'll see that our image has a recolored dress. The original is blue. I think this constitutes as, "fanon," and should be replaced with the in-game image. Trsrockin.com features the original image: http://peach.trsrockin.com/images/marioismissing.jpg Stumpers! 21:42, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Your right it orange it instead of blue so it not offical so should we remove it a post the offical image.(Who could of done this!) Princess Grapes Butterfly 21:45, 24 March 2008 (EDT) Wait it a retouch foto from fixup So they been know it a fake!

I've uploaded the right image and replaced it. Stumpers! 21:55, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Cool but it look purple? Princess Grapes Butterfly

Yup. The sprite was modified from Peach's sprite in Super Mario World, and the dress is very reminescent of the USA Golf game, or whatever it was called. In-game, Daisy wore blue and Peach wore green. Stumpers! 22:20, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

Stumpers are you serious! So would that make it a retouch image? Princess Grapes Butterfly 06:22, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Unfortunately, yes. The previous image was an edit. I found out shortly after uploading it, but forgot to look for the original. Hey, I do the best I can, this page is huge now you know! :) Fixitup 23:59, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

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Umm is this real.-> "In Mario Kart Wii Daisy Circuit, there is a giant statue of Luigi and Daisy holding hands.etc" (awwwww!!) Is this true? (I need a pix,source, or a video.) Princess Grapes Butterfly 08:35, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Yes, you can check the page out now for an image. Awesome, right? Fixitup

Very much so. Can you add an "aboutfile" template to the image, though? Stumpers! 02:06, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

This is kinda off topic, but my friend has the players guide to this game and it says Peach and daisy are cousins. should we add this?
— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sonic&Mario Kid (talk).

WHOA! WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA! Proof please. Imagery, IMAGERY! THIS IS POOP MY PANTS INFO!Fixitup

Is the Player's Guide even official? Time Questions 18:24, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Yo, all guides, sites, game booklets, bios, and etc. that are officially made by Nintendo are just as official as info found from Sihgeru Miyamoto's mouth unless said otherwise. Fixitup

Well, I don't know if it was officially made by Nintendo, that's why I was asking. I think there are some Player's Guides which are not official. Time Questions 18:33, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Does is have that offical Nintendo seal. (Would make that offical right?.) Grapes

Not everything released by Nintendo has the official seal, lol. I think you should be able to tell if it's officially Nintendo. Fixitup

Ok, I just checked up on it. The Prima Guide is the official guide from Nintendo(it has the seal). If you can prove to us that it says that, it's up for the add. Fixitup

Well some offical Nintendo books has the seal. So it offical? Or we still need proof. Grapes

I checked online. The front has the seal of Nintendo.Fixitup

A picture of this exact wording would be helpful. — Stooben Rooben 18:56, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Precisely that. Fixitup

Prima has made some pretty crazy claims in the past though. If you accept this you're going to find yourself faced with a lot of other Prima claims. Stumpers! 21:51, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Hm, I think as long as they are licensed by Nintendo guides, anything is acceptable...with proof of course. I will be trying to get my hands on this MKWii guide in the meantime, as the person who brought this topic up seems to not know what is even going on... Fixitup

Yeah I do. the guide also said that Toadette and Toad were brother and sister. But I thought that they were boyfriend and girlfriend. User:Sonic&Mario Kid

No, just no

Wario and Waluigi are both ridiculous. The only basis you have is from the Mario Party and Mario Strikers series, and their "relationships" there are merely gameplay elements, nothing more. Wario has NEVER made any clear contact with Daisy, and nor has Waluigi, really. Though, Waluigi COULD be moved to Trivia. Wario has GOT to go, however. My Bloody Valentine

You are by far poopin' ya pants right now.(lol) I'll probably remove the Wario section.. Also, gameplay elements as well as team names support relationships just as much as anything else would... Why wouldn't they? Also, Green Bros. is a play on words, anyone with can understand that. The proposal was to remove speculative relationships, presenting information from the games, and anywhere else, is not speculation as long as you're not suggesting it means something the source didn't. Players don't have bad chemistry because they MIGHT not like each other, and players don't rival each other because they have no connections between one another. Fixitup

ZOMG, FLAME! *goes to the Sysops Board on the Forums* Bye bye, Fixit. Anyway, team names are irrelevant. Some are pointless names that make no sense. I don't see how a "team name" hints at a relationship, really. Chemistry is a poor assumption as well. Donkey Kong and Petey had good Chemistry, WTF?! Chemistry is irrelevant to this case as well. We CAN'T assume ANYTHING from Gameplay elements; Only the story. Wikipedia does it, so should we. My Bloody Valentine

What? Are you joking? I hope you are, I don't see a flame.. Gameplay elements are used in every relationship section, lol. And if DK and Petey had chemistry, why is that a big deal? It just means Nintendo was building a connection. Just because characters haven't dealt with eachother in the padt, doesn't mean something can't start somewhere. Regardless, I've removed the Wario section, and there is no speculation in the other sections. Fixitup

Also, you can tell why some people have connections because of past info, while some people have nothing to base it off of, that's just how it is. When a character has had past though, that's when it makes sense to mention it. Also, that doesn't mean you start a relationship section from one point of info, that's obviously why what happened to the Baby Daisy page happened. Yeah, some are pointless names, SOME. You're not giving any reasoning not to keep any information from gameplay other than you don't think it makes sense. Wikipedia does it because wikipedia is filled with people that don't allow anything that isn't stated as a complete and utter fact. Gameplay like this isn't the same as if you do something to cause an instance that wouldn't normally happen otherwise. Unless that is the case, then gameplay and team names are just as much as relationship elements as something stated in a storyline. If we based everything off of what only happens in the story line, most pages would los half of their information. Gameplay is where information is derived from. Fixitup

I totally agree with DP. — Stooben Rooben 22:53, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Same here. SJ derp :P

Fixit, N/O, but I think the only reason you're going through all of this is so "your" Baby Daisy article can be full of fanon information; such as her "crush" on Baby Luigi. Um, hello: Babies don't have love lives; they can get along with other babies, but they don't fall in love. =| The proposal pulled through; useless fanon relationships will be removed from the article. Get over it. — Stooben Rooben 23:31, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with the B Daisy page! I just stated that the B Daisy page didn't have such information! Gosh, people can be so blinded by past events. This has nothing to do with fanon, and it had nothing to do with B Daisy until you just tried to go off on me. I am over that, I'm not over this. The proposal was to get rid of speculation, I've gotten rid of speculation here. Just because someone thinks gameplay elements don't mean anything doesn't mean they don't. I have the information to back it up. If someone can give us information that says they have no relationship, then this will stay as non speculative info on this page. Don't try to go off on me about something that wasn't even at hand. Fixitup

Let's see... Three people say Gameplay Elements are a big NO on relationships section... one person says they are fine... Learn to accept other people's opinions, Fixit, it'll do you good later on. My Bloody Valentine

Fixit: Don't take other people's opinions so personal. Besides, majority rules. — Stooben Rooben 23:42, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

Trust me, we don't need to remove gameplay elements. It's straight, dawgs. If you can give me a vital reason to remove the Waluigi section, I promise I will. I know for a fact though, that there is a relationship build up between the two. It's not even my personal favor wither, I could care less about Waluigi, but I know that Daisy info, is good info. Please, just bare with me here. Fixitup

This whole thing with the relationships is so wild. There has to be some better way to work them out other than listing a bunch of assumptions that people will pick over later on. Maybe we should change it to an "Interactions" section, so that only events, voiced opinions, and Nintendo's hints would be listed. For example, instead of "Luigi and Daisy are rumored to have a romantic relationship," a statement that is true but can't be sourced, would change to, "Luigi's first documented interaction with Daisy was in Golf, where she caddied for him as Peach did for Mario. After playing tennis alongside Daisy in the Doubles Turnament in Mario Tennis, Luigi and Daisy have been portayed as a couple on various occassions. For example, they are seen together golfing with Peach and Mario. In the Mario Party series, their team names are (examples here). Perhaps the most telling occurance was in Mario Power Tennis, wherein Daisy called Luigi "sweety" while receiving a trophy. Finally, in Mario Kart Wii, there is a statue on Daisy Circuit that shows the two holding hands together. Nintendo's only official word on this matter came in Super Smash Bros. Melee. Daisy's trophy bio states that (insert quote about Luigi's answer to Mario's Peach here)." Not perfect, no. But, did you notice that it dodges saying that they are "rumored to be" or that they "appear to have" or any "conjecture-hiding phrases" like that? Instead, it lists off when they were portrayed as a couple. See, we shouldn't be putting in our own judgements outright, but we can make "suggestions" in the form of what data we include where, just as Nintendo has. Stumpers! 01:10, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

And now to respond to Fixit's new comment: why don't we just make a "chemistry chart" documenting who Daisy has good chemistry with? It would save room, too. The overall idea of mine here is to present the information that lead you to believe what you do, but then let the readers take the final step in uniting the facts into a personal belief or conclusion. Stumpers! 01:10, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Why do we always get PWNed by you, Stumpers? Great idea! My Bloody Valentine

Oh my gosh, so not fair. You always make the best suggestions. Ok though. I think most of what you said in the rewrite is perfect. I would make it lengthier in my own personal manner however, not ruining it or anything. I would also mention the baseball info.. Is that what you meant by chemistry though? Also, how would you go by changing the Waluigi section? And, what exactly do you mean by "chemistry chart"? Aaand more importantly than anyone else, what would we do about Peach's section? That has to be the most truthful of them all already. Fixitup

So Uhh hmm.....One word.....Pwned. Super-Yoshi^{Talk? C???}

Thanks guys! Glad to help out! Here's what I would cut from the Peach section to make it less conjectural. This isn't a full rewrite, mostly just a strikeout -- meaning that sections like this should be easier for us to write:

"Peach is the most notable relationship Daisy has with any of the Mario characters. (agreed, but an opinion) Daisy has been known (portrayed as) to be a good friends with as a good friend of Peach ever since her big comeback appearance in Mario Tennis for the Nintendo 64. Soon after in Mario Tennis (GBC), Daisy is commonly alongside Peach in any cut-scenes. If something involves partners in the Mario spin-offs the two will usually be a team (GIVE EXAMPLES HERE: Mario Kart Double Dash... Mario Party 7). Naturally, the two of them enjoy a friendly rivalry, but for the most part they enjoy each other's company. (This statement should be backed by events, although it is likely true... if you were thinking of the manga, just remove this and it will be supported by the section on the manga)

Like Luigi, the two share good chemistry in the game Mario Superstar Baseball, and Daisy is Peach's team's co-captain (a member of Peach's team in story mode). By their friendship, one can assume that the Mushroom Kingdom and Sarasaland have very good foreign relations. (conjecture, but a good one). Nintendo's Mario Power Tennis Website says that Daisy is Peach's sister in arms, obviously meaning more of a 'brotherly love' type of relationship than an actual blood relationship. (let the readers interpret that statement as they will -- make it easier on yourself!)

In the Super Mario manga series (Give issue and pg?), when Daisy is introduced to Peach, Peach mistakes a wink from Daisy to Mario as a way of showing affection, as Mario responds in that manner (Instead say what Mario did... did he have hearts in his eyes? Wink back?). Peach confronts Daisy which is where their rivalry originates; this ultimately leads to their lasting friendship." (I'd like more specifics on this last sentense, but it's fine because it gives the facts instead of saying that they are rivals first, then friends... but it just dodges by a bit). Stumpers! 01:34, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

I'd love to do Waluigi right now, but I need to go to sleep. But, what I mean by the relationship chart is this: a two row chart with as many columns as there are characters with whom she has chemistry. Other character's names would be listed across the top, and Daisy's name to the left. In the space to the right of Daisy's name, musical notes or what have you could be placed to show postive or negative chemistry. There are other ways, too of course. Stumpers! 01:34, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

lol, I got pwned by super-yoshi saying pwned b/c of edit conflict. Stumpers! 01:34, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Lol, nice work, Stumpers. I like it a lot. But, wait... There's a Mario Manga?! My Bloody Valentine

I think it would just be (much) easier to mentione the chemistry normally. ForeverDaisy09

Right, but this is just to take care of the cases in which a whole section is written, backed only by the fact that a character has good/bad chemistry, but no reason has been given. For example, we've never seen Daisy and Waluigi exchange a single word if I remember right, but there they are with bad chemistry. It would be conjectural to make a conclusion about that. Stumpers! 17:03, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

It would, but having bad chemistry means they don't have a good relationship... Soo, what part of the Waluigi section is conjectural? ForeverDaisy09

It's not conjectural that they work poorly together, but to say anything beyond that is technically conjecture, like for example why they don't. Stumpers! 22:11, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

So that means that the charaters the don't make contack with Daisy contain no relation ship with her? (So you guys will remove the Wario and Waluigi section.) Princess Strawberry Butterfly 17:09, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

I'm really liking this new "Interactions" idea. Nice rewrite, ForeverDaisy. It's perfect now! :D My Bloody Valentine

Yo, thanks! ForeverDaisy09

Yo, your welcome! My Bloody Valentine :P

Whoa, that's a lot better. Leave it to Stumpers to clear things up. BTW, good job rewriting, FD09. ;) — Stooben Rooben 20:36, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Who stated, that Daisy was Peach's cousin?

OK, when I first saw Daisy in Super Mario land, I also thought she must be Peach's cousin or something, but when was it made offical? Any sources? Any proves? There's not even something like that written in ALL of her Bios and Trophy information! I would say, that's just fan talk and fan talk doesn't belong in here, unlike someone can tell me, where that cousin thing came from. Nenilein 07:10, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Noewhere... Peach = Princess (MK) Daisy = DIFFRENT Princess (SL) Crystal lucario 07:20, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

I know, but did someone put it in the article!! Nenilein 07:30, 24 May 2008 (EDT)