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:::::My pleasure :) I love template work. - {{User|Walkazo}}
:::::My pleasure :) I love template work. - {{User|Walkazo}}
::::::Should this be archived? {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
::::::Should this be archived? {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
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===L Block===
===L Block===
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Hey, ROB128 - I've noticed that everyone on the Wiki hates my opinions no matter what I say. I feel even more worthless now. But seriously, BLOCKS. What could be less interesting? I wouldn't truly consider deleting the block articles - but maybe merging them all into a Blocks article - but since everyone hates my ideas - there was no point in saying that. '''Oh, and Super-Yoshi - are you calling ''me'' ugly?''' Oh yeah, and ROB - I don't exactly have any powers to be stripped of - I'm a useless contributor with no special rank like Sysop or anything. I probably never will be due to life circumstances.  {{User|Dom}}
Hey, ROB128 - I've noticed that everyone on the Wiki hates my opinions no matter what I say. I feel even more worthless now. But seriously, BLOCKS. What could be less interesting? I wouldn't truly consider deleting the block articles - but maybe merging them all into a Blocks article - but since everyone hates my ideas - there was no point in saying that. '''Oh, and Super-Yoshi - are you calling ''me'' ugly?''' Oh yeah, and ROB - I don't exactly have any powers to be stripped of - I'm a useless contributor with no special rank like Sysop or anything. I probably never will be due to life circumstances.  {{User|Dom}}
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===Mame Block and Bagubagutchi===
===Mame Block and Bagubagutchi===
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:...You do realize that proposals are about what other users think about the idea. I've been here longer than you, don't call me a hypocrite. If you don't like us, then we aren't forcing you to stay. All I said was Per All, because I thought everyone was correct on the merge side. {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
:...You do realize that proposals are about what other users think about the idea. I've been here longer than you, don't call me a hypocrite. If you don't like us, then we aren't forcing you to stay. All I said was Per All, because I thought everyone was correct on the merge side. {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
::Oh I just realizzed that was my old proposal, lol. {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
::Oh I just realizzed that was my old proposal, lol. {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
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===Sightings: Change to References?===
===Sightings: Change to References?===
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PhailureMonster: thanks for confirming that a print dictionary agrees.  Those are usually considered to be more reliable! {{User|Stumpers}}
PhailureMonster: thanks for confirming that a print dictionary agrees.  Those are usually considered to be more reliable! {{User|Stumpers}}
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===PM: Minor Items===
===PM: Minor Items===
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:I was actually talking about all the recipes and recovery items and whatnot, not key items. I think [[Yakkey]] counts as a key item. :P {{User|Gyroid X}}
:I was actually talking about all the recipes and recovery items and whatnot, not key items. I think [[Yakkey]] counts as a key item. :P {{User|Gyroid X}}
::Tell you what - why don't you rewrite this proposal and be very specific about which pages you want to merge.  Then, you can retry this proposal, since many users were against this proposal because it had too much gray area, perhaps you'll have better luck.  If you want, you can take down this proposal before it passes and start fresh right now. {{User|Stumpers}}
::Tell you what - why don't you rewrite this proposal and be very specific about which pages you want to merge.  Then, you can retry this proposal, since many users were against this proposal because it had too much gray area, perhaps you'll have better luck.  If you want, you can take down this proposal before it passes and start fresh right now. {{User|Stumpers}}
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===Rating Companies===
===Rating Companies===
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::::I was referring to that, actually. :)  Yes, there is a point to individual articles: it increases the emphasis on the subject and allows us to completely expand on the topic more easily.  It's like when Wikipedia splits... say banana into "banana" and "history of banana".  They do that because they feel the subject is so important that it deserves more than one article.  Merging means that the subject is so ''un''important that it doesn't even deserve one whole article.  It's all about the amount of info we can say on the subject without overstepping the boundaries of what we cover. {{User|Stumpers}}
::::I was referring to that, actually. :)  Yes, there is a point to individual articles: it increases the emphasis on the subject and allows us to completely expand on the topic more easily.  It's like when Wikipedia splits... say banana into "banana" and "history of banana".  They do that because they feel the subject is so important that it deserves more than one article.  Merging means that the subject is so ''un''important that it doesn't even deserve one whole article.  It's all about the amount of info we can say on the subject without overstepping the boundaries of what we cover. {{User|Stumpers}}
:::::Thanks for the informative comment there! LOL at the banana example - quite random. {{User|Dom}}
:::::Thanks for the informative comment there! LOL at the banana example - quite random. {{User|Dom}}
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===Article Organization Standard===
===Article Organization Standard===
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:::::Okay, [[User:Stumpers/Test2|here's the mock-up]].  You'll notice two changes if you're very familiar with the article that weren't outlined in my proposal.  I moved some text that didn't call on a particular game, such as relatives, implied birth, etc. to the top of the page.  If you guys wanted to use the introduction to give an overview of the character which could connect games, etc. together in MarioWiki:Chronology order, I don't think anyone would mind.  We need more information up there anyway, and that would allow you to talk about anything that is lost through this layout rather than the chronological one (such as Peach's birth).  The second change is that I removed an image that was making the article look messy with the new headers... not much of a change, but I still felt obligated to note it.  And Walkazo: you're absolutely right.  We should adopt that (proposal time?). {{User|Stumpers}}
:::::Okay, [[User:Stumpers/Test2|here's the mock-up]].  You'll notice two changes if you're very familiar with the article that weren't outlined in my proposal.  I moved some text that didn't call on a particular game, such as relatives, implied birth, etc. to the top of the page.  If you guys wanted to use the introduction to give an overview of the character which could connect games, etc. together in MarioWiki:Chronology order, I don't think anyone would mind.  We need more information up there anyway, and that would allow you to talk about anything that is lost through this layout rather than the chronological one (such as Peach's birth).  The second change is that I removed an image that was making the article look messy with the new headers... not much of a change, but I still felt obligated to note it.  And Walkazo: you're absolutely right.  We should adopt that (proposal time?). {{User|Stumpers}}


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===Featured Lists===
===Featured Lists===
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::::Yea, awesome idea. {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
::::Yea, awesome idea. {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
:::::Thanks! - {{User|Walkazo}}
:::::Thanks! - {{User|Walkazo}}
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===Kirby's forms===
===Kirby's forms===
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{{User|Storm Warrior}} Dom, I'm not saying I'm giving every form a separate page, but rather 1 page. And I'm not saying It's long, it's just longer than SSB contestant pages like Falco and Ganondorf.
{{User|Storm Warrior}} Dom, I'm not saying I'm giving every form a separate page, but rather 1 page. And I'm not saying It's long, it's just longer than SSB contestant pages like Falco and Ganondorf.
::Well, Point 2 of mine is what really matters, and Stumpers also mentioned that. So, I doubt this proposal will be successful. {{User|Dom}}
::Well, Point 2 of mine is what really matters, and Stumpers also mentioned that. So, I doubt this proposal will be successful. {{User|Dom}}
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===Youtube Poop===
===Youtube Poop===
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Will you stop putting randrap in the comments, Moleman9000. It's not going to change our minds. YouTube Poop is... well poop, and we're not going to put crao like that in this wiki. {{User|Nerdy Guy}}
Will you stop putting randrap in the comments, Moleman9000. It's not going to change our minds. YouTube Poop is... well poop, and we're not going to put crao like that in this wiki. {{User|Nerdy Guy}}
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===Mario Calendar===
===Mario Calendar===
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:K, it's been a week. I guess it's time to add it to the Main Page? Steve said he'd do it himself, so I'll just wait. {{User|Paper Jorge}}
:K, it's been a week. I guess it's time to add it to the Main Page? Steve said he'd do it himself, so I'll just wait. {{User|Paper Jorge}}
::No Lee D: {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
::No Lee D: {{User|Super-Yoshi}}
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===[[Captain Rainbow]]===
===[[Captain Rainbow]]===
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:Hm, if ''Captain Rainbow'' and the other articles I named are allowed, then I think there is even no proposal needed. {{User|Grandy02}} 17:41, 7 November 2008 (EST)
:Hm, if ''Captain Rainbow'' and the other articles I named are allowed, then I think there is even no proposal needed. {{User|Grandy02}} 17:41, 7 November 2008 (EST)
::Agreed. It seems like it would be pretty redundant. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
::Agreed. It seems like it would be pretty redundant. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
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===Add a Pipe Plaza link===
===Add a Pipe Plaza link===
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I think it's time for a proposal to "restart" the Pipe Plaza, just as what we did with the Trouble Center. {{User|Arend}}
I think it's time for a proposal to "restart" the Pipe Plaza, just as what we did with the Trouble Center. {{User|Arend}}
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===Crystal Stars===
===Crystal Stars===
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:Exactly my point.  When we merged the special moves from ''Smash Bros.'', we did so because we wanted to reduce our focus on it, not because the articles were too short (remember the Final Smashes?  Longer than some Mario series moves).  These articles are definitely not to short and are part of what we want to focus on. Let me see if I can't clarify my vote. {{User|Stumpers}}
:Exactly my point.  When we merged the special moves from ''Smash Bros.'', we did so because we wanted to reduce our focus on it, not because the articles were too short (remember the Final Smashes?  Longer than some Mario series moves).  These articles are definitely not to short and are part of what we want to focus on. Let me see if I can't clarify my vote. {{User|Stumpers}}
:Oh okay. {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
:Oh okay. {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
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===Add a Superstar Link===
===Add a Superstar Link===
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:Yeah, you might wanna make your proposal more specific. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
:Yeah, you might wanna make your proposal more specific. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
::I  believe the article in question is [[Super Star]], though ''all'' the "Superstar"/"Super Star" articles could use some sorting-out, actually. - {{User|Walkazo}}
::I  believe the article in question is [[Super Star]], though ''all'' the "Superstar"/"Super Star" articles could use some sorting-out, actually. - {{User|Walkazo}}
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===Using Cheat Sites as References===
===Using Cheat Sites as References===
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:::Si! I know but you said cheat were hard to pull off? {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
:::Si! I know but you said cheat were hard to pull off? {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
::::Yes, sometimes they can be. Like in ''Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour'', there's a cheat in [[Peach's Castle Grounds]] where you can get a hole in one on a PAR 5 course, but it's very hard to do. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
::::Yes, sometimes they can be. Like in ''Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour'', there's a cheat in [[Peach's Castle Grounds]] where you can get a hole in one on a PAR 5 course, but it's very hard to do. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
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===User Page of the Month===
===User Page of the Month===
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::::That's exactly what it is. That's why it says "Featured Article", and not "Featured User" or "User of the Month". We're trying our best to avoid being biased, while trying to improve features on our site. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
::::That's exactly what it is. That's why it says "Featured Article", and not "Featured User" or "User of the Month". We're trying our best to avoid being biased, while trying to improve features on our site. {{User|Stooben Rooben}}
:Yeah thats what I meant. {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
:Yeah thats what I meant. {{User|Princess Grapes Butterfly}}
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===[[Mario and Luigi's Parents]]===
===[[Mario and Luigi's Parents]]===
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::'''To Stumpers''': Thanks! '''To Master Hand''': good point - it can't redirect to ''both'' articles, and redirecting to one would be wrong. The best course of action would be making it a disambig. page right off the bat and then going through and changing all the links to the appropriate parent for our readers' convenience (which I'd be more than happy to help out with). - {{User|Walkazo}}
::'''To Stumpers''': Thanks! '''To Master Hand''': good point - it can't redirect to ''both'' articles, and redirecting to one would be wrong. The best course of action would be making it a disambig. page right off the bat and then going through and changing all the links to the appropriate parent for our readers' convenience (which I'd be more than happy to help out with). - {{User|Walkazo}}
:::That's what I meant to right; thanks for noticing that!  And Walkazo: I'll be right there with you. {{User|Stumpers}}
:::That's what I meant to right; thanks for noticing that!  And Walkazo: I'll be right there with you. {{User|Stumpers}}
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===[[3-in-1 Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet]]===
===[[3-in-1 Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet]]===
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:Cool - just be sure to specify next time! {{User|Stumpers}}
:Cool - just be sure to specify next time! {{User|Stumpers}}
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===Change Count Bleck to Blumiere and Tippi to Lady Timpani===
===Change Count Bleck to Blumiere and Tippi to Lady Timpani===