Talk:Elite Dry Bones

These creatures actually have a name different from Dry Bones. However, I can't tell what name, as I've only played the German version of the game. - Cobold

They're just called "Dry Bones" in the Western version, despite their different stats and whatnot. Should this page be moved to Dry Bones (Garon) or something, making note of the naming difference in only certain versions, or should it even exist at all? YELLOWYOSHI398

I think you misunderstood. I never heard of the name "Garon". They are called Staubtrocken (Dry (as) Dust) in the German version, in analogy to Knochentrocken (Dry Bones). I do not know where the name Garon comes from. - Cobold

then why don't we just move it to the Dry Bones page? InfectedShroom. 13:59, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Yea, that sounds like a good idea. Super-Yoshi^{Talk? C???}

Splitting ML:SS enemy articles

Since Garon now has its own article (again?), are the other enemy articles like Pestnut and Chuck Guy going to be split into their two varieties as well?--vellidragon 10:51, 10 January 2010 (EST)

I think yes, since they have different names in the original and other languages, but I'd prefer the article naming as explained below rather than using the Japanese name. --Grandy02 11:02, 10 January 2010 (EST)

Article title

Since it is called Dry Bones in the English version, maybe the former title "Dry Bones (Garon)" would be better? Anyway, that isn't the only translation mistake. For example, Pale Piranha in Paper Mario 2 is actually just a Piranha Plant with different colouring (the German version also reflects that), while the enemies labeled "Piranha Plant" in the English version are actually called Killer Packun rather than Packun Flower in Japanese. We have already merged and split several articles in accordance to original naming in Japanese (including Garon), but there are still some left. --Grandy02 10:56, 10 January 2010 (EST)

Another suggestion for the title, what about "Dry Bones (Teehee Valley)"? --Grandy02 11:01, 10 January 2010 (EST)

Dry Bones (Teehee Valley) sounds good. Also, what did we do to the Killer Piranhas? - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:14, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Okay. In case of the Piranha Plant, we did nothing as of now. But the Piranha Plant article does at least mention the naming issue. For being consistent, we should merge Pale Piranha with Piranha Plant while the other "Piranha Plant" gets a separate article under the name "Piranha Plant (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door)". --Grandy02 11:21, 17 January 2010 (EST)

I support that. - Cobold (talk · contribs) 11:24, 17 January 2010 (EST)

Merge

Why isn't this merge with the original Dry Bones article? They're basically the same enemy. The RPG Gamer (talk) (edits) 00:32, 17 July 2016 (EDT)

They're technically different enemies and even have different names in the Japanese version. We keep Piranha Plant and a subspecies with the same English name seperate, so why not leave this the way it is? Mr.C (talk) 20:21, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

For another example, see Boomerang Bro (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga). It's me, Mario! (Talk / Stalk) 22:08, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

See Gritty Goomba. Basically put, if everything about them is different besides the name, there's no reason to merge them. Hello, I'm Time Turner. 22:13, 5 August 2016 (EDT)

Troopea variant?

Where has it been expectedly confirmed that Elite Dry Bones are Troopeas? 51.183.19.94 15:10, May 5, 2026 (UTC)

They had the same body shape in the original GBA version, though the similarity was lost when Troopeas got redesigned in the 3DS remaster to resemble ordinary Koopa Troopas... Despite the Dry Bones not being redesigned to resemble ordinary Dry Bones with them. ~Camwoodstock ( talk ☯ contribs ) 18:16, May 5, 2026 (UTC)

These ones also do the "shell-knock" thing, unlike the "normal" Dry Bones in the game. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 19:20, May 5, 2026 (UTC)

Well, both Troopeas and Elite Dry Bones have a "shell-knock" thing. On the Elite Dry Bones page, Wandering Poplin removed Troopea from the "variant of" section on the infobox. 51.183.19.94 16:24, May 6, 2026 (UTC)

To be fair, aside from the weird shell knock thing, until the release of the remake, there was never any reason to assume these were anything except off-model normal Dry Bones. Thusly, these could have just as easily been Koopa Troopa variants, rather than specifically Troopeas. I'd rather we have a bit more evidence supporting the matter before we make any direct claims about this enemy and its relation to Troopeas.

It may also be worth noting that neither this enemy nor its base counterparts reference Troopeas, beans, or laughter much in their naming schemes or designs, unlike most "Beanbean variant" enemies in this game, as well as the fact that the "standard design" for Dry Bones had not been finalized when this game was released. At this point in time, their appearances tended to swap between their SMB3 designs (Which appears to be the basis for their designs in this game.) and their SMW designs, (Which was frequently seen in the Paper Mario games released in the 2000s.) depending on the game. Wandering Poplin (talk) 17:37, May 6, 2026 (UTC)