Talk:List of implied species

Pokemon

Would it be worth putting implied Pokemon in this list? I'm talking about guys like Charmeleon and Wartortle, who are mentioned in trophy descriptions of Pokemon that exist in the Smash Bros. series. -- Booster

That information should be on the Wiki, like you said. Either be here or on the Pokemon page would probably work. Depending on the amount of information we're talking about, a single section on this page would probably work. Otherwise, what we could do is have an "Implied Pokemon" section on this page and link to the future section in the Pokemon article about implied Pokemon. Does that sound good? Stumpers! 21:13, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Sounds good. I suppose it should go on this page, since they're still only implied, but under a seperate heading or something. Maybe put a link near the bottom of the main Pokemon page or something. -- Booster (talk)

It's really a matter of personal opinion, and since you're taking on the task, I think you should be the one to make the call. Stumpers! 23:35, 28 January 2009 (EST)

I'll just go ahead and use this page. Thanks for your imput! -- Booster (talk)

I didn't realize how many implied Pokemon there were! Maybe this page isn't the place for them. -- Booster (talk)

Yeah, there are quite a few! Stumpers! 16:05, 29 January 2009 (EST)

Burpin' Beetle

Really? I mean, come on, I really doubt that Nintendo wanted to apply it as a species and it's just a bettle that burped. Just because it burps, it makes it a new species? It's like if a Shy Guy danced, he'd create the "Dancing Shy Guy" species. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Mmhgrm: Dancing Spear Guy... Yeah, I agree with you. I would have removed it myself, but I haven't played TTYD so I wasn't sure if it was stated as "Burpin' Beetle" or "Are there burpin' Beetles around?" Remove if necessary. Redstar 18:14, 17 December 2009 (EST)

He says: "Just a little burpin' beetle". No capital on "burpin'" so I'll go delete it. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

and i disagree with your conclusion grubba says calls it Just a little burpin' beetle" he doesnt call them a beetle that burps so it implies there a separate species Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

He means it's just a beetle that burps. There's no proof whatsoever that burpin' beetles are separate species, considering that all species' names are capitalized, and neither the "b" in burpin' or beetle was capitalized, thus they are not species, implied or not. --Reversinator 10:23, 23 June 2011 (EDT)

there's also no proof that they aren't a separate species beetles don't burp in either the Mario series or the real world therefore the fact that they can burp implies that they are a species also he calls it a burpin beetle not a beetle that burps Goomba's Shoe15 (talk)

Pokémon - Needed?

Seriously, why do we need virtually meaningless information on dozens of ìmplied Pokémon at Super Mario Wiki? No offense, but this is like adding every character and anything briefly mentioned in a trophy description of something that is of no relevance for the wiki, other than that it is found in Smash Bros. --Grandy02 12:45, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

Yeah, why do we?--Starman125 12:50, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

I say we delete it. Hello, I'm Time Turner.

Can we make short section about how other species like Pokémon and things from other games are metioned in the SSB series? I really would rather know that than what type a Bayleef is. (grass, duh) ;) Bowser's luma 21:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Isn't that rather obvious? I'm not sure if even that would be needed. --Grandy02 10:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

This sort of topic has come up frequently. All we do is give information as it relates to the Mario series. That includes SSB. We add all pertinent info on a character's trophy. No more. Implied pokemon could probably go with whatever trophy mentions it. e.g. Gulpin. Give info based on its role in SSBB. If necessary, what it evolves into. Only a brief description, though. This is a Mario wiki, after all. GG445 "...?" 22:50, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

dream team spieces mentions

Throughout Mount Pajamaja, various statues of apparent famed heroes doing the one thing each of them were known for. By each statue, a stone slab rests, with information about them on it. on two of the statues, people are mentioned, i'm talking about Vegebrodies and Dark Cholesterarians
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Implied Pokémon

This talk page proposal has already been settled. Please do not edit any of the sections in the proposal. If you wish to discuss the article, do so in a new header below the proposal.

passed delete the implied Pokémon 9-1-0
Why do we have a section for Pokémon that are mentioned in passing in SSB trophy descriptions, and not such sections for any other SSB franchise?

Proposer: RickTommy (talk)
Deadline: 11 October, 2016, 23:59 GMT

Remove the "List of implied Pokémon" section

1. Yoshi the Space Station Manager (talk) This article can be created instead. My best option is "Pokémon mentioned in Super Smash Bros. Series" Even though it will be removed, it will have a link. A proposal not that long ago allows for this. But the question is, are they special enough to deserve their own article? Please, feel free to comment whether a 100% complete removal of this is needed or just moved somewhere else. To make things clear, the vote must be clear on this. I honestly don't care if they are removed or stayed so this vote is just mentioning a decision based on the fact that it will be moved instead of removed. I say that it should be deleted. Not relevant enough to the Mario franchise to make a separate article or add other franchises.
2. Bazooka Mario (talk) Just remove them. This treads on coverage creep. Confine the scope of implied species to Mario / Donkey Kong / Yoshi and so on and just create interwiki links like we do for everything else that falls well outside the scope of Mario Wiki. Yoshi the Space Station Manager's idea, I do not recommend.
3. Time Turner (talk) The list we have now is near-useless and unnecessary, and anything more would extend deep into coverage creep. Per Mario.
4. Baby Luigi (talk) Per proposal.
5. BabyLuigi64 (talk) Per proposal.
6. Quizmelon (talk) Per all.
7. AfternoonLight (talk) Remove it and per all.
8. Alex95 (talk) Per all. It's not Mario-related, so we don't need it.
9. Luigi 64DD (talk) Per all. Covering this is going way too far in Smash Bros. coverage.

Add relevant sections for every other franchise

1. RickTommy (talk)

Comments

The split from implied can be discussed here as well, it just means that there will be more to it than just moving the article. It would mean that all become individual articles or a group article (The best I can come up with is "Franchise Mentions in Super Smash Bros. Series"). I'm not voting here yet because I want to hear from other people first. Make sure you are specific here too. Make sure you vote in the space above this until I vote here. If I don't ever vote here, this will just be a message that you can vote here and still have all franchises mention. Yoshi the Space Station Manager (talk) I don't care what happens.

@RickTommy: Please clarify the first option, because either YtSSM misunderstood it or it's improperly worded. Did you intent for it to call for a complete removal or the list or to split it into its own article? --™ The 'Shroom 23:42, 28 September 2016 (EDT)

I don't know about what he meant, but since this is part of "List of implied ..." and it is a proposal, I put my thought into the proposal. I haven't heard anything from him since. Unless he says that he doesn't want it there, I am keeping it there. I also want to hear from others about the decision. For some reason, it hasn't gotten anything extra since it was put up. Yoshi the SSM (talk) 00:12, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

Some Implied Species That Should Be Added Or Not

I have a list of implied species and I was wondering if they should be added or not

Wolverines: A Monty Mole in Mario Golf: Super Rush mentions wolverines so I was wondering if wolverines should be mentioned here since no characters in Mario are wolverines?

Real Life Moles: The Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga Nintendo Power guidebook briefly mentions how they wish real life moles should be more like the Presenters seen in that game. This is the only mention of real life moles from my knowledge so should it be added?

Morty Wrench: In the files of the Nintendo website shows a image of Rocky Wrench that says Morty Wrench. It could be a possible mix between Morty Moles and Rocky Wrenches so I am wondering if this should get added? Super Mario Broth also talked about it here: https://twitter.com/mariobrothblog/status/1270816053636083715.

Those are the implied species I wanted to suggest for now. MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 21:29, November 29, 2021 (EST)

Real life moles is definitely not one to add; that is just a comparison between the Presenters and moles in reality. Morty Wrench seems to be an unused species and doesn't qualify for coverage on this page. Nightwicked Bowser 22:05, November 29, 2021 (EST)

Oh ok, what about the wolverines then since you never mentioned wether to include those or not? Also, should Morty Wrench be on the trivia page for Rocky Wrench or Morty Mole’s page since it might be something unused (even if the thing mentioning it was the official website and not anything 3D Land related)? MontyMoleLoreMaster (talk) 22:22, November 29, 2021 (EST)

Ancient Stickerish and Soakit

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There are two entries in this list I think should probably be removed:

• Ancient Stickerish - this isn't a species, but a language.
• Soakit - this is just a character making a pun, it's as much an "implied species" as "Leston" is an implied character.

Blinker (talk) 12:14, June 6, 2024 (EDT)