MarioWiki:Proposals
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Tuesday, November 12th, 06:40 GMT |
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Proposals can be new features, the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
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A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.
How to
Rules
- If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
- Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
- Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- Use the {{proposal check}} tool to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
- Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks (at the earliest).
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first six days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal and support/oppose format
This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 14 days after the proposal was created, at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "November 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]
====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".
Talk page proposals
Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
- For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.
Rules
- All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}.
- All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
- The talk page proposal must pertain to the subject page of the talk page it is posted on.
- When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
- Determine what to do with Jamboree Buddy (discuss) Deadline: November 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Split Cursed Mushroom from Poison Mushroom (discuss) Deadline: November 12, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Orbs that share names with pre-existing Mario Party series items with those items (discuss) Deadline: November 14, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Create a number of articles for special buildings in Super Mario Run (discuss) Deadline: November 15, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Consider Deep Cheeps' appearance in the Super Mario Maker series a design cameo rather than a full appearance (without Blurps being affected) (discuss) Deadline: November 15, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Merge Mushroom, Dash Mushroom, and most of Super Mushroom (discuss) Deadline: November 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Expand and rename List of characters by game (discuss) Deadline: November 20, 2024, 23:59 GMT
- Decide whether to create articles for Ashita ni Nattara and Banana Tengoku and/or include them on List of Donkey Kong Country (television series) songs (discuss) Deadline: November 23, 2024, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
| Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024) |
| Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024) |
- ^ NOTE: Not yet integrated for the Super Mario Maker titles, Super Mario Run, and Super Mario Bros. Wonder.
| Create new sections for gallery pages to cover "unused/pre-release/prototype/etc." graphics separate from the ones that appear in the finalized games, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 2, 2024) |
| Add film and television ratings to Template:Ratings, TheUndescribableGhost (ended October 1, 2024) |
| Use the classic and classic-link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024) |
| Split articles for the alternate-named reskins from All Night Nippon: Super Mario Bros., Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 3, 2024) |
| Clarify coverage of the Super Smash Bros. series, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended October 17, 2024) |
| Remove all subpage and redirect links from all navigational templates, JanMisali (ended October 31, 2024) |
| Prioritize MESEN/NEStopia palette for NES sprites and screenshots, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended November 3, 2024) |
| Stop considering reused voice clips as references (usually), Waluigi Time (ended November 8, 2024) |
Talk page proposals
| Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021) |
| Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022) |
| Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024) |
| Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024) |
| Split Banana Peel from Banana, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 18, 2024) |
| Merge Spiked Thwomp with Thwomp, Blinker (ended November 2, 2024) |
List of talk page proposals
Unimplemented proposals
Writing guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
Abolish the No-Signature Policy
The no-signature policy is a policy that has pretty much become pointless nowadays yet it stil exists. Back when it was first established it used to be effective and one used for on various different things including this proposals and the long extinct Pipe Projects and Featured Images. Over the years the amount of pages this policy is used for has decreased massively but now as far as I’m aware this policy is only used in two areas: featured articles nominations and in both cases its useage does not match what the policy states.
In the case of featured articles nominations, there is no enforcement of it whatsoever. Here users just decide to put their regular sig in when they comment and they are not corrected or told off for doing so.
With appeals, it doesn’t even follow the guidelines the no-signature policy lists. No-signature policy recommends people to use {{User|User Name Here}} and forces users to link their user page or talk page when writing a comment. Neither of theses are present when writing appeals.
Therefore because of the reasons I listed above I believe the best thing to do here is to abolish policy altogether. Should this proposal pass these changes will be implemented
1. The deletion of Mariowiki: No-signature policy
2. Mariowiki: Featured Articles and Mariowiki: appeals will no longer mention the no-signature policy.
3. Signatures will now officially be allowed on the comments of featured articles nominations (even though they have be used for awhile anyway)
4. A message will be written on the appeals page asking people not to sign their comments.
If anyone has any amendments they would like to make to this proposal, feel free to suggest in the comments.
Proposer: NSY (talk)
Deadline: July 4, 2020, 23:59 GMT
Support
- NSY (talk) Per Proposal
- PinkYoshiFan (talk) Per proposal.
Oppose
- Alex95 (talk) - I don't see a good enough reason to outright remove this. I believe the reason why it was made in the first place was so signatures do not take up too much space. You can see examples of this in older proposals from the first few years of the wiki. For proposals, feature/unfeature nominations, and appeals, I'd rather use the {{user}} template. Signatures are mainly meant for signing talk comments, but can feel like they are in the way in the case of larger signatures (like mine) if used for anything else. EDIT: Additionally, sometimes they are irrelevant, like (using an example from earlier today) Scrooge200 signed his proposal in the proposal text, which isn't necessary when we also say to list the proposer directly after the proposed changes. I realize that's probably a mistake on Scrooge's part, but you usually sign your comments on pages, so the no-signature policy exists to say that you don't need to sign your comments/votes in specific areas.
- HEROWALUIGI (talk) Same as Alex95.
- FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
- DarkNight (talk) Per Alex95.
Comments
By the "deletion" of the policy, you mean that there should be an {{abandoned}} template at the top of the page? 
(T|C) 10:12, June 27, 2020 (EDT)
correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure that the no-sig policy is unnecessary for proposals at least. if a sig is too big, it leads to a sigfix template. and even the largest of legal sigs wouldn't take up that much space. also, if a signature is coded in such a way that it messes up a good portion of the page it will probably be fixed rather quickly. but appeals makes sense
i'm going to be staying neutral for now. TheDarkStar 
10:25, June 28, 2020 (EDT)
- Yeah, we keep signatures within a size limit, but by "size", I meant more like unnecessary space usage. If you vote with {{user}}, you don't need the signature, because your name is already there, so the signature is just irrelevant.
22:59, June 28, 2020 (EDT)
Changes
None at the moment.
Miscellaneous
Split the Paper Mario: Sticker Star and Paper Mario: Color Splash attacks
This is something that has been bugging me for a long time.
Currently, each attack in Paper Mario: Sticker Star and Paper Mario: Color Splash is merged into a giant list: Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star) and Battle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash). There are many problems with this current arrangement.
- They're all different. Some have different action commands, they all do different amounts of damage, have different strengths and weaknesses, different buy and sell values, different descriptions, different sprites, different animations...
- Each attack from the first two games are split: see Hold Fast, Dizzy Shell, and Fiery Jinx.
- Linking to
Worn-Out Jumpis easier thanBattle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash)#Worn-Out Jump. - Things are special attacks that have different locations, different prices, different descriptions, designs, and animations, hints as to where each one is... A majority of them are required to beat Color Splash.
- Some attacks, like the Hopslipper, appear in both Sticker Star and Color Splash. Thus, the Hopslipper page has links to the two attack lists. It'd be much easier and more efficient to keep them on one page.
- The Hurlhammer is going to return in Paper Mario: The Origami King. What will that page's attack list be? I don't want to end up with an article called "Weapon (Paper Mario: The Origami King)" or "list of attacks in Paper Mario: The Origami King." It'd be flat-out incorrect to treat it as exclusive to The Origami King, too.
If this proposal is passed, the following changes will be made:
- Sticker (Paper Mario: Sticker Star) and Battle Card (Paper Mario: Color Splash) will still exist. We'll just give the attacks present their own pages: each The Thousand-Year Door badge has an article and List of badges in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door exists.
- Every Sticker and Battle Card will receive their own article. If they're the same, like Blazehammer, we cover both the SS and CS info on the same page. In cases like POW Block, we'll include the information on the object's main article and not make a "POW Block (Paper Mario series)" article or anything.
- Every Thing will get its own article.
- Enemy Cards from Color Splash will remain as a list and not get their own articles.
Proposer: Scrooge200 (talk)
Deadline: July 4, 2020, 23:59 GMT
Support
- Scrooge200 (talk) Per nomination.
- Waluigi Time (talk) Per proposal.
- HEROWALUIGI (talk) Per Propsal
- Magolor04726 (talk) I think I was the one who started this thing by asking if there was a list of where to find things. Definitely will help if this passes. (Also, if this isn't how I should post this, I apologize. I'm a super noob at things like this)
- Mister Wu (talk) sounds good to me, if anything I think it’s time to cover the recurring attacks in the new Paper Mario games, especially those that are going to be featured in The Origami King.
- Toadette the Achiever (talk) Yeah, sure. Per all.
- TheFlameChomp (talk) Per all.
- TheDarkStar (talk) - per all
- Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) Recurring items, so obvious yes. This has bugged me for a while, along with the SMRPG lists.
- Niiue (talk) Per all.
- Alex95 (talk) - Per all.
- BBQ Turtle (talk) Per all.
- FanOfYoshi (talk) Per all.
- Duckfan77 (talk) Per all.
- Yoshi the SSM (talk) Per all.
- DarkNight (talk) Per all.
- PinkYoshiFan (talk) Per all.
Oppose
Comments
Would attacks such as Worn-Out Jump ×3 and Worn-Out Hammer ×3 be made into their own articles, or would they just be mentioned on the Worn-Out Jump and Worn-Out Hammer pages, respectively? I am not necessarily against it either way, I am just wondering. --
TheFlameChomp (talk) 22:38, June 27, 2020 (EDT)
- I was wondering about this, and I think now that we'll give them separate pages. They're still unique cards with separate museum slots, plus it'd be easier to say their buy/sell prices and locations. Scrooge200 (talk)
23:42, June 27, 2020 (EDT)
- We have separate pages for triple Mario Kart items now, so it makes sense. Doc von Schmeltwick (talk) 01:23, June 28, 2020 (EDT)
