Talk:Professor Chops

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Isn't the name supposed to be the most recently name?--

05:34, 18 March 2014 (EDT)

Tutorial Pig vs. Professor Chops

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This is a very similar dilemma to what happened with Queen Bee a few years ago, but with one key difference; this little piggy has appeared in two games as of now, and he has been known by two different names in said games. What happened with Queen Bee was that she appeared as "Queen Bee" in two of the three games she's appeared in, and because "Queen Bee" was more widely used than "Honey Queen", "Queen Bee" ultimately won. But what shall we do here, where there is no majority?

Rename to "Professor Chops"

1. Lord Bowser (talk) It's more recent and not as general as "Tutorial Pig".

Rename?

Señor Oinky here is called Professor Chops in the HD version of Return's image-gallery, an in-game name. Should we move or is he still called "Tutorial Pig" in game? PrincessPeachFan (talk) 15:38, March 6, 2025 (EST)

I don't think there are other in-game mentions of his name outside of the image gallery. Anyways, the page already uses the name Professor Chops. 1468z (talk) 15:20, March 6, 2025 (EST)

Heh. What I meant was, should we rename the Returns section to Professor Chops? Shoulda been more clear. PrincessPeachFan (talk) 15:38, March 6, 2025 (EST)

Ah, yeah it probably should. We already use the latest name when talking about subjects that got a name change in a remake like Super Mario RPG and TTYD. 1468z (talk) 15:44, March 6, 2025 (EST)

If the latest release removed traces of the legacy name, then sure, though the Wii/3DS game articles should keep it, of course. LinkTheLefty (talk) 15:49, March 6, 2025 (EST)

But rereleasing Super Mario Bros countless times hasn't made Bloober into Blooper in that article's Super Mario Bros. section. Salmancer (talk) 15:56, March 6, 2025 (EST)

Because in-game references and included manuals take priority. LinkTheLefty (talk) 16:24, March 6, 2025 (EST)

Split Checkpoint

Currently, Checkpoint (Yoshi's Woolly World) has a page. This indicates that generically named checkpoints can get pages separate from Checkpoint. (Side note, a page was also granted to devdata named Check Point (Yoshi's Crafted World)). If we can make a page for generically named checkpoint, why do we not have "Checkpoint (Donkey Kong Country series)"? (not proper noun, European manual page 16) Yes, Professor Chops is present at each checkpoint and activates them, but that doesn't mean he is the checkpoint itself. Especially because once a checkpoint is triggered, Professor Chops leaves unless the player qualifies for Super Guide. This further means having Professor Chops in Template:Checkpoints messes with it's organization, with a character tossed in among a bunch of objects. Also, the checkpoint object has relevant game properties, mainly being visible in a silhouette level. They're the same properties as Professor Chops, but still. Salmancer (talk) 22:21, May 25, 2025 (EDT)

I think this is a bad idea. Professor Chops exists primarily to be the checkpoint. - Nintendo101 (talk) 12:42, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

I would argue, given the former name of "tutorial pig", that his primary role is to explain the controls and tell the player how to complete certain sections and then secondarily to set the checkpoint status. Salmancer (talk) 12:52, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

Also, I think Professor Chops having more appearances at checkpoints than tutorializing is an optical illusion. There are just more checkpoints in the game than places the player receives or can recieve a button prompt. This shouldn't negate that his first appearances are for button prompting. Salmancer (talk) 14:28, July 12, 2025 (EDT)

From the Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Trivia Quiz: "Professor Chops marks checkpoints, kicks off the level in Time Attack mode, and gives hints to help the Kongs perform certain actions, like climbing vines." He does something with a checkpoint, he marks the checkpoint, he is not himself the checkpoint. Salmancer (talk) 19:39, July 17, 2025 (EDT)