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Metal Mario (character)

Can you change all instances of [[Metal Mario (character)|Metal Mario]] to just [[Metal Mario]]? Thanks in advance. - RHG1951 (talk) 20:06, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Identifiers

Hey I saw you were able to make it so infoboxes displayed the identifier-less title for pages with identifiers, without the need for the |title= parameter. How did you manage to do that exactly? (and does this mean we can get rid of |title= entirely?) Somethingone (talk) 06:38, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

I did this by deploying {{PAGETITLE}} as a drop-in replacement for {{PAGENAME}}. There's no need to get rid of the title parameter, as there are still some cases where it's needed, but those instances are now much rarer. --Steve (talk) 09:07, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

Regarding the Mario Kart console abbreviation title thing

Okay, so I finally have a grasp on how I should argue for doing away with console abbreviations on titles of Mario Kart courses.

Take a look at this op-ed analysis by Ahemtoday (talk), where they argue, in summary, that the current titles for the variations of Mario Kart Tour courses returning in the Booster Course Pass are too confusing to use as article titles because a potential reader wouldn't guess that the article at, say, the Tokyo Blur title is actually one of four Mario Kart Tour variations, and that the article at the Tour Tokyo Blur title is for the Mario Kart 8 Deluxe variation.

I now realize that another good example comes to mind: the Donut Plains race courses from Super Mario Kart. Currently they're located at "SNES Donut Plains [number]", which is technically correct. However, there are also the articles located at "Donut Plains [number]" for the names of specific levels in Super Mario World. Since Super Mario World and Super Mario Kart are both SNES games, the "SNES" part could refer to either set of subjects, meaning they should receive proper disambiguation instead of forcing new readers to potentially do a double-take.

Thoughts worth considering perhaps. ^(T|C) 00:08, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

The {{about}} template solves both of these problems. If the user ends up in the wrong place, then the about template is the tool we use to guide them, and whether they're clicking on "Tokyo Blur (Mario Kart 8 Deluxe)" or "Tour Tokyo Blur", "Donut Plains 1 (race course)" or "SNES Donut Plains 1", it isn't going to make a huge difference to them. But for our purposes, we certainly prefer to use the more-official name that appears in-game and in marketing materials than a wikified identifier name. It's really quite alright if the user has to read the about template or the first sentence of the article to figure out what's going on, that is valid and it's why we have the about template in the first place. --Steve (talk) 01:58, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Considering my own post is what (re)started this conversation in the first place, I feel a bit obligated to weigh in - although I only really have a firm stance on the MK8 Tour tracks and not Archivist Toadette's larger point. The reason I think this situation may warrant a deviation from convention is that this is the first time this prefix is being used to distinguish an article about a course's reappearance from its original appearance. While they are officially listed as Tour Tokyo Blur and Tour Paris Promenade, it's not in a context where it's used to set the course apart from its original. If anything, these course prefixes serve to highlight and describe the original. My point is: these two articles are using this naming scheme to disambiguate in a way it wasn't designed to, and in a way that it isn't used officially. I don't believe the result of this is ideal for the end user. Ahemtoday (talk) 03:50, May 14, 2022 (EDT)

Internal name template

Hey, is there a way to make the internal name template automatically apply <tt></tt> to the file parameter, like how it automatically italicizes the Japanese romanizations in the foreign name template? Somethingone (talk) 15:19, May 17, 2022 (EDT)

It's best not to, since if you need to include a reference, or some context such as parenthesis after the filename, that would get included in the <tt> as well. --Steve (talk) 15:26, May 17, 2022 (EDT)

Question about image thumbnails

Do you know why thumbnails of JPG images look blurry, even when the image viewed at full size is not? Take my sandbox for example. The image on the bottom is just the image on the top converted to PNG, so it's not actually any different in quality than the JPG, yet the JPG (top) looks blurrier than the PNG (bottom) when thumbnailed. I don't know how it looks from your computer, but here's how it looks from mine (the difference is easier to notice when zoomed in, though it's there regardless) so you know what I'm talking about. 18:03, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

PNG tries to save every detail when generating thumbs, while JPG is heavily compressed and details are lost. That's also why there's a significant difference in the thumb file sizes. --Steve (talk) 18:46, May 23, 2022 (EDT)

The second archive of Electrical Bowser jr. user talk

Hello Porplemontage. First off, I wanted to say thank you for merging my account into Electrical Bowser jr.. I would like to ask if you could restore my second page of user talk as Electrical Bowser jr., from later 2012 to 2013, as Archive 2.

Thanks, Electrical Bowser jr., 22:11, June 7, 2022 (EST)

Thank you again, since you did this. Electrical Bowser jr., 22:28, June 7, 2022 (EST)

My pleasure. --Steve (talk) 22:40, June 7, 2022 (EDT)

Last request related to Electrical Bowser jr.

Hi Porplemontage, I greatly appreciate your work to merge my account back to Electrical Bowser jr.. The last thing was wondering was if you could merge my old 2012-2014 userpage history as Electrical Bowser jr. in to my account now, and if not, if you could create a separate page as an archive or something else for my userpage history almost a decade ago.

Have a good night and thanks for reading and your work, Electrical Bowser jr., 22:13, June 8, 2022 (EST)

Odd rewrite-expand templates

On pages such as the Kamek and Invincible Mario pages, the tag dates now appear as the reasons. Do you know why this is happening? WildWario (talk) 03:34, June 11, 2022 (EDT)

He made some modifications to the tag’s template. Now you can add a reason in the first parameter (without the need of a “reason” variable) while the date parameter comes second. This caused the data in some tags to swap around. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:07, June 11, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. I noticed that we have 247 cases of ==Name in other languages==, which would normally be ==Names in other languages==. Would it be a good idea to replace them with a bot? --Dine2017 (talk) 10:42, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Order of interwiki links

Hi. Is there any way to list the sidebar interwiki links in a consistent order, regardless of their position in the source? The current ordering is a bit inconsistent (compare SNES Battle Course 1 and SNES Battle Course 4). -Dine2017 (talk) 03:51, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. Would you mind changing Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen! to Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyūshutsu Dai Sakusen! in the mainspace and File namespace?

I believe there is no false positive in the File namespace and the only one in the mainspace is the interwiki link [[it:Super Mario Bros.: Peach-hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen!]] of the subject itself. --Dine2017 (talk) 10:36, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

Replacing instances of "NS" with "Switch"

do it for "Category:Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (NS) images" too pls :) -- KOOPA CON CARNE 15:49, August 23, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. Would you mind changing ==Reference== to ==References==? I believe there are currently 152 instances of the former. --Dine2017 (talk) 09:50, August 26, 2022 (EDT)

Text replacement

Hi. Could you change

[[List of games# followed by four digits

to

[[List of games by date# followed by the same digits

These changes target things like this:

|first_appearance=''[[Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars]]'' ([[List of games#1996|1996]])
|latest_appearance=''[[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions]]'' ([[List of games#2017|2017]])

--Dine2017 (talk) 01:19, August 30, 2022 (EDT)

Bot work again

Hi, would you mind running the bot to change every instance of {{button|ns| to {{button|switch|? Thanks! ^(T|C) 08:23, September 1, 2022 (EDT)

I ran this when I updated the template. Where are you seeing the old syntax? EDIT: Found some that were missed and fixed them. --Steve (talk) 08:44, September 1, 2022 (EDT)

{{hover}}

Hi. Regarding your recent use of the bot to propagate the {{hover}} template, there are still a few cases which can be covered.

By the way, SMW:JP#General rules is still instructing editors to use the old syntax -- does that need to be updated too? --Dine2017 (talk) 09:23, September 16, 2022 (EDT)

Finished the proposal railing against Mario Kart console abbreviation titles

You can view it here. ^(T|C) 15:44, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

Where's the proposed solution? I can image you'd want to move Wii Maple Treeway to Maple Treeway, but what about something like SNES Rainbow Road? Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart) doesn't work since it appears in multiple games in addition to Super Mario Kart; perhaps Rainbow Road (SNES)?

I suppose that could be two separate options. "Rainbow Road (Super Mario Kart)" might actually work in theory (contrary to your claim) since it originates from Super Mario Kart and would be differentiated from other courses in the same series; as an example, we already have Warp Space (Mario Party 4) differentiated from Warp Space (Mario Party 10) despite the former space also appearing in Mario Party: Island Tour. ^(T|C) 15:58, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

Oh yeah I talked about that in my last comment here. I will move those away from game identifiers since the appear in multiple games. --Steve (talk) 16:04, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

To briefly delve into that other topic though, what other possible identifier could be used for the two Warp Spaces? They have distinguishing functions so specific (to another player's space vs. to another Warp Space) that I don't think type identifiers would work in that case. ^(T|C) 16:08, September 20, 2022 (EDT)

"Category:Kinder Chocolate images" & "Category:Artwork by Masanori Sato"

Can you please move these to "Category:Kinder images" and "Category:Masanori Sato images"? "Kinder Chocolate" is the name of a particular line of products under the Kinder brand, not the brand itself, and the current wiki coverage of Kinder doesn't concern it. The other category is named so because, I think, at the time I created it, I wasn't aware the titles of the other "Images by artist" categories had been recast; I apologise for that. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 09:37, September 30, 2022 (EDT)

Chuckster

Forgive me if this is off the beaten path, but is it true you once said "chuckster" should be split from Pianta? Just want to make sure the latter comment of this proposal stands. Nightwicked Bowser 06:15, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

Yes that's true, and that piece of porplemontage lore can be found here. In general I'm pro-split (I'd rather have many smaller articles with some breathing room than big articles where you have to hunt down the information), and especially so when a subject has a distinct name or term for it. Here's our average Google position for the query "chuckster" (1 is best). After being brutally owned by FANDOM for years (since their article came first), we've actually been creeping up the past few months and could be on the cusp of something great. A merge to Pianta would be a surrender in this fight since having an article with the matching title is what allows it to be close in the first place. I encourage everyone to be mindful of how discrete articles help search engine discoverability before voting to merge any article, not just chuckster. --Steve (talk) 11:17, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

As of now I'm not firm on one option or the other in that proposal (inclined towards keeping chucksters split), but I really don't think search rankings make a particularly strong argument in the face of an encyclopedia's bid for veracity. I really don't mean to offend, but given your position as site proprietor I'm assuming ulterior motives with this proposition. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 11:45, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

I guess the reason I provide this info is for some broader context. The wiki doesn't exist in a vacuum. The real-world truth is that people find our articles through Google, and I thought our editors liked having their work found and read, liked outperforming FANDOM, etc. If these things aren't of significant importance or persuasive to you then so be it. --Steve (talk) 12:31, October 9, 2022 (EDT)

MarioWiki:Article size

Hey can you remove the part on this policy that says "This policy does not apply to list or table pages such as Places and Trophy Descriptions (Super Smash Bros. Brawl), just actual articles."? my proposal to remove that text passed but I can't edit the page. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 11:05, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Thanks so much. Don't know why that outdated exception existed in the first place, but I'm glad it's gone! ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 11:13, November 7, 2022 (EST)

Furigana

A while ago, you had <span class="explain"title="[H]">[K]</span> replaced with {{hover|[K]|[H]}} which I thought was more accessible. However, I wasn't aware that the wiki was capable of displaying furigana properly until I noticed it here, where it seems to look like <rb>K</rb><rt>H</rt>. Would you be able to script something conveniently similar to hover but explicitly meant for showing furigana? Also, on a semi-related note, do you have any thoughts on this? LinkTheLefty (talk) 10:06, November 30, 2022 (EST)

So now we have {{hover|[K]|[H]}} ([K]) and {{ruby|[K]|[H]}} ([K][H]). Should be easy enough to switch between them. I don't have a preference for which is used or any thoughts on the diff you've linked since I'm out of my depth when it comes to Japanese :) --Steve (talk) 10:49, November 30, 2022 (EST)

Fix the Rename template

Will you please do me a favor and replace {{#if:{{{2|}}}|([[:{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}#{{{2}}}|discuss]]) with {{#if:{{{2|}}}|([[:{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}#{{{2}}}|discuss]])}} on the {{move}} template? GuntherBayBeee

Ruby

Minor issue but is there any way to code Template:Ruby so that when you highlight it the hirigana doesn't get highlighted along with the kanji, like how it happened with Template:Hover? ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 18:12, January 7, 2023 (EST)

Yeah I don't think that worked, I can still highlight the hirigana when the ruby template is used. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 08:40, January 8, 2023 (EST)

I added the special Safari CSS for it, but it doesn't seem to actually work, so that one's on Apple --Steve (talk) 09:10, January 8, 2023 (EST)

Template:WWGIT fit pipes

I made this template to check whether a given value matches a character's name when called in Template:WWGIT fit (the "parent" template) and decide whether to create a piped link based on that. However, it appears that, whenever the parent template locates a true #ifeq expression from "WWGIT fit pipe", it splices the second entered string and the truth value to create the link instead of using just the truth value, e.g. for "Young Cricket", the link becomes "Young CricketYoung Cricket & Master Mantis" instead of Young Cricket & Master Mantis. Do you know what causes this? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:27, January 20, 2023 (EST)

Proposal approval

There's a proposal that is a week old. Maybe you should approve it. GuntherBayBeee

If there's a proposal that's past the deadline date, you can archive it yourself. Nightwicked Bowser 12:20, February 3, 2023 (EST)

Your thoughts on Visual Editor

Just for the record, is it possible to make a Visual Editor for this wiki, and do you think it is or isn't a good idea? Just asking because of the situation that was brought up in this currently active proposal regarding the topic. ^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 13:12, February 25, 2023 (EST)

It's not currently technically feasible. I've done testing with it on the wiki, and trying to visual-edit large articles like Mario caused server CPU usage to spike and the visual editor eventually hit a 30-second timeout. Not good for server stability. However, I'm planning on migrating the site to an upgraded server early next year. I think there's a good chance it will be doable on the new hardware, but I have to test it first.

In terms of want/desire for it, I'm not really a huge fan, but if it runs well on the new server and the community wants it, then I think we can make it work. One aspect of it is TemplateData, which makes templates user-friendly to visual editor users. If we do decide to install the visual editor, then we should take it seriously and plan on adding TemplateData to as many of our templates as we can. This is a project I'd like the proposer and community to keep in mind when voting and help with if it were to pass.

So I guess the order has to be this: 1) Wait until the new server in 2024. 2) I'll test the visual editor and see if performance is acceptable. 3) If it's doable, community proposal and discussion on the matter can proceed. --Steve (talk) 15:34, February 25, 2023 (EST)

Visual Editor proposal

Commenters at the Visual Editor proposal made a good point that I should have asked you first if this proposal is acceptable or not. If not, I'm ready to cancel it. Spectrogram (talk) 07:41, February 26, 2023 (EST)

Yes, based on the above section it will have to be canceled now, with the possibility of revisiting next year. --Steve (talk) 10:57, February 26, 2023 (EST)

Question

Hi there, This user threatened to report me if I undo their edits. It stemmed from a misunderstanding over at the Mario Mover Gallery. It truly was not my intention to cause any trouble, I'm just doing my best to clarify the context of the art. I have also messaged a couple of pratrollers about it, but have not heard anything back. I don't want to come across as spamming this message, I just wanted to get the word out and I don't want to cause anymore trouble. Thank you and hope everything can be sorted out!

Sdman213 (talk) 10:26, March 9, 2023 (EST)

Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day

Hello Porplemontage, Happy Mario Day! I want Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day on this wiki. Thanks. 36.85.218.108 00:00, March 10, 2023 (EST)

Mario Day ended, but I still want Super Mario Mirage for April Fools Day on this wiki. Thanks. 36.85.218.108 00:00, March 11, 2023 (EST)

CSS table width

Hi. This edit forced tables to appear 1px narrower than their natural width. It seems that this hack was added to fix something, but unfortunately it caused another problem:

{| class=wikitable
! Test 1
| The quick brown fox
|}

normally displays as

+--------+---------------------+
| Test 1 | The quick brown fox |
+--------+---------------------+

Now it displays as something like

+------+----------------------+
| Test | The quick brown      |
|  1   | fox                  |
+------+----------------------+

To see the effect on real articles, see Three Beautiful Sisters#Felissa T. At least on my computer (Chrome on Windows 10) the "ー[1]" of "チェリー[1]" is moved one line down, even though the page is wide enough to set the name horizontally. Is there any way to avoid this? --Dine2017 (talk) 23:04, March 31, 2023 (EDT)

SmashWiki seems to have problems with internet trolls using ip addresses to repeatedly ban evade and vandalize.

Given that many Discord servers require a phone number before you can post in them, how would it be easy to require each account and IP address here to submit sensitive personal info such as bank card numbers, drivers license or government issued ID or phone numbers in order to edit?

MarioWiki itself wouldn’t use the data for any reason outside of logging it in a database to auto detect bans. Would it be difficult to verify info such as if bank numbers is real or something or would it result in hackers who hack into MarioWiki itself gaining access to your data?

This would also ensure that if an user is banned here, then tries to edit using an IP address, the info they provide would automatically flag and ban them instead of us having to do the annoying process of detecting if they are the same user.

Remembered Old Buddy 10:04, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

There are many things that can be done to lock-down a wiki, but generally a conscious decision is made to keep things open and revert vandalism rather than have a restrictive system. --Steve (talk) 10:52, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

MarioWiki Namespace Shortcuts

Why exactly were all the "MW:[TEXT]" redirects removed? I see the bot moved all instances of them to a "SMW:[TEXT]" title, but that also doesn't show up in the search results. Never mind, they still exist. They just don't pop up in the search bar unless you type the full thing anymore.^S _o ^m _e ^t _h ⁱ _n ^g _o ⁿ _e ! 16:50, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

Text replacement

Can you change all instances of [[Category:Super Mario World: Mario & Yoshi's Adventure Land images]] to [[Category:Super Mario World: Mario to Yoshi no Bōken Land images]]? There are 51 images under the old category. Thanks! - RHG1951 (talk) 20:43, April 20, 2023 (EDT)

Age template

I had an idea to update the template, also I updated on Wikipedia a bit. I believe there are more users that born in 1999 than 1989 on this wiki. Which is better, 1972 at time of 1986, or 1999 at time of 2013? Whether the status quo is better? Windy (talk) 18:06, April 26, 2023 (EDT)

Since it's just an example, it doesn't really matter what years are used, so it's fine to leave as-is. --Steve (talk) 08:37, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

pls halp

How do I change the colour of image frames in my monobook? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 22:27, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

Edit: And is it possible to change the colour of the navigation/tool boxes on the left side of the web page? -- KOOPA CON CARNE 22:33, May 7, 2023 (EDT)

I suggest you familiarize yourself with your browser's "inspect element" (Ctrl+Shift+C) to see what selector MediaWiki uses for styling a given element.

div.thumbinner {
	color: white;
	border-color: red;
	background-color: blue;
}

body.skin--responsive .pBody,
body:not(.skin--responsive) .pBody {
	border-color: green;
	background-color: orange;
}

And in case you didn't know, "Show preview" can be used on your CSS page to test changes to elements visible on that page. --Steve (talk) 08:37, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

And I suggest you drop the condescending attitude. I know about the preview function on that page, the problem is that there are many elements that cannot be previewed in there, and no "Preview X page" exists on my end to aid me with that (templates have it, on the other hand). The only conducive thing I could do was repeatedly save my changes. I'm also using inspect element on the regular when I extract certain web content for documentation, it just didn't occur to me I could do so here too... -- KOOPA CON CARNE 08:59, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

I'm not trying to have any attitude; sorry if it came off that way. --Steve (talk) 09:03, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

My reaction was overblown. I construed the previewing function as obvious enough not to merit an explanation, hence why I thought you were being facetious with that piece of advice, but I've come to accept that you were genuinely trying to help. I was an asshat. Please accept my sincere apologies. -- KOOPA CON CARNE 10:17, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

All good! --Steve (talk) 09:53, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Text replacement

Can you make the following changes:

• [[Ashley & Red|Ashley]] into [[Ashley]]
• [[Ashley & Red|Red]] into [[Red (WarioWare series)|Red]]

As of this moment, 283 pages still link to Ashley & Red and the above changes should take care of most of them. Thanks! - RHG1951 (talk) 20:06, May 15, 2023 (EDT)

Help

Some of users seem that dissatisfied with editing the year from the age template from SmashWiki. A conflict of opinion has occured. Please help. Also, please unprotect the age template from this wiki. ADD: The template is too outdated and I updated it. Windy (talk) 07:4409:06, May 24, 2023 (EDT)