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===No death threats=== | |||
A new rule I would suggest to add is no death threats. This means I think there should be a no death threat rule. We don’t want users threatening to kill someone because death threats, especially on the internet, are a no-no. I think any user who violates this should get a last warning and after that, a block. | |||
'''Proposer''': {{User|NintendogsFan}}<br> | |||
'''Deadline''': January 17, 2020 17:22 EST | |||
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#{{User|NintendogsFan}} Per my proposal | |||
====Oppose==== | ====Oppose==== | ||
====Comments==== | ====Comments==== | ||
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If you would like to get feedback on an idea before formally proposing it here, you may do so on the proposals talk. For talk page proposals, you can discuss the changes on the talk page itself before creating the TPP there.
How to
If someone has an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with other users, who will then vote on whether or not they think the idea should be implemented. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
Rules
- Only autoconfirmed users may create or vote on proposals. Proposals can be created by one user or co-authored by two users.
- A given user may author/co-author a maximum of five total ongoing/unimplemented proposals. Any new proposals over this limit will be immediately canceled.
- Anyone is free to comment on proposals (provided that the page's protection level allows them to edit).
- Proposals conclude at the end of the day (23:59) two weeks after voting starts (all times GMT).
- For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is two weeks later on Monday, August 15, at 23:59 GMT.
- Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available. Keep in mind that we use approval voting, so all of your votes count equally regardless of preferred order.
- Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is acceptable (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
- Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote(s) at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the wiki staff.
- Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
- If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(blocked)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
- Proposals cannot contradict an already ongoing proposal or overturn the decision of a previous proposal that concluded less than four weeks (28 days) ago.
- If one week before a proposal's initial deadline, the first place option is ahead of the second place option by eight or more votes and the first place option has at least 80% approval, then the proposal concludes early. Wiki staff may tag a proposal with "Do not close early" at any time to prevent an early close, if needed.
- Tag the proposal with {{early notice}} if it is on track for an early close. Use {{proposal check|early=yes}} to perform the check.
- Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and there is a tie for first place, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- If a proposal reaches its deadline and the first place option is ahead of the second place option by three or more votes, then the first place option must have over 50% approval to win. If the margin is only one or two votes, then the first place option must have at least 60% approval to win. If the required approval threshold is not met, then the proposal is extended for another week.
- Use {{proposal check}} to automate this calculation; see the template page for usage instructions and examples.
- Proposals can be extended a maximum of three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, then the proposal fails and cannot be re-proposed until at least four weeks after the last deadline.
- All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
- After a proposal passes, it is added to the appropriate list of "unimplemented proposals" below and is removed once it has been sufficiently implemented.
- For sizeable projects, a proposal author or wiki staff member may create a PipeProject page to serve as a portal for an unimplemented proposal. This is linked from the unimplemented proposals list and can contain progress tracking, implementation guidelines, resource links, a list of users working on the project, etc.
- If the wiki staff deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to cancel it at any time.
- Proposals can only be rewritten or canceled by their proposer within the first four days of their creation. However, proposers can request that their proposal be canceled by a staff member at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
- Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting, or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
- Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Staff changes are discussed internally and handled by the bureaucrats.
- No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
- Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.
Basic proposal formatting
Copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the proposal deadline will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but the objective(s) of each voting option must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}<br>
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT
====[option title (e.g. Support, Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
====[option title (e.g. Oppose, Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====
====Comments ([brief proposal title])====
Autoconfirmed users will now be able to vote on your proposal. Remember that you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.
To vote for an option, just insert #{{User|[your username here]}} at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can simply say "Per proposal."
Poll proposal formatting
As an alternative to the basic proposal format, users may choose to create a poll proposal when one larger issue can be broken down into multiple subissues that can be resolved independently of each other. Poll proposals concerning multiple pages must have good justification for using the poll proposal format rather than individual talk page proposals or else will be canceled (for example, in the case of the princesses poll proposal, there are valid consistency concerns which make it worthwhile to consider these three articles simultaneously, but for routine article size splits, there is no need to abandon using standard TPPs for each).
In a poll proposal, each option is essentially its own mini-proposal with a deadline and suboption headings. A poll proposal can have a maximum of 20 options, and the rules above apply to each option as if it were its own proposal: users may vote on any number of options they wish, and individual options may close early or be extended separately from the rest. If an option fails to achieve quorum or reach a consensus after three extensions, then the status quo wins for that option by default. If all options fail, then nothing will be done.
To create a poll proposal, copy and paste the formatting below to get started; your username and the option deadlines will automatically be substituted when you save the page. Update the bracketed variables with actual information, and be sure to replace the whole variable including the square brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information" and not "[This is the inserted information]".
===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]
'''Proposer''': {{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}}
====[option title (e.g. Option 1)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT
;Support
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
====[option title (e.g. Option 2)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT
;Support
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
====[option title (e.g. Option 3)]: [brief summary of option]====
'''Deadline''': {{subst:#time:F j, Y|+2 weeks}}, 23:59 GMT
;Support
#{{User|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}}} Per proposal.
;Oppose
====Comments ([brief proposal title])====
For the purposes of the ongoing proposals list, a poll proposal's deadline is the latest deadline of any ongoing option(s). A poll proposal is archived after all of its options have settled, and it is listed as one single proposal in the archive. It is considered to have "passed" if one or more options were approved by voters (resulting in a change from the status quo), and it is considered to have "failed" if all options were rejected by voters and no change in the status quo was made.
Talk page proposals
Proposals concerning a single page or a limited group of pages are held on the most relevant talk page regarding the matter. All of the above proposal rules also apply to talk page proposals. Place {{TPP}} under the section's heading, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}. Proposals dealing with a large amount of splits, merges, or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.
All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{ongoing TPP}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, the proposal author(s), and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links.
List of ongoing talk page proposals
Deletions
None at the moment.
Moves
- Move Donkey Konga 3 JP to Donkey Konga 3 (discuss) by Kaptain Skurvy; Deadline: July 9, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Move ♥ to Heart (Yoshi's Story) or Point (Yoshi's Story) (discuss) by Arend; Deadline: July 13, 2025, 23:59 GMT
Merges
- Merge Flipper (Pinball) and Flipper (Mario Kart series), and move current Flipper to Flipper (gate) (discuss) by Arend; Deadline: July 1, 2025, 23:59 GMT
Splits
- Split Feather from Cape Feather (discuss) by PrincessPeachFan; Deadline: July 1, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Split Coin Shell from Gold Shell (discuss) by JanMisali; Deadline: July 6, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Split Clappin' Chuck, Passin' Chuck, Diggin' Chuck, and Splittin' Chuck from Chargin' Chuck (discuss) by Daita; Deadline: July 6, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Split A Magical Tour of Yoshi's Island from Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (discuss) by Rykitu; Deadline: July 9, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Split The Super Mario Bros. Movie's book adaptations (discuss) by Rykitu; Deadline: July 9, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Split Jumping Pumpkin Plant from Jumping Piranha Plant (discuss) by DryBonesBandit; Deadline: July 11, 2025, 23:59 GMT
Miscellaneous
- Put wooden cutout in Category:Lookalikes (discuss) by Salmancer; Deadline: June 29, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Re-order the ratings template based by country and region (discuss) by PanchamBro; Deadline: June 30, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Decide how to handle hammer-based moves in Category:Hammers (discuss) by SolemnStormcloud; Deadline: July 7, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Make a page for each badge in Yoshi's Woolly World (discuss) by Sorbetti; Deadline: July 8, 2025, 23:59 GMT
- Decide where to cover the Super Mario 64 and Yoshi's Island iterations of the Coin (discuss) by Koopa con Carne; Deadline: July 13, 2025, 23:59 GMT
Unimplemented proposals
Proposals
| Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024) |
| Standardize sectioning for Super Mario series game articles, Nintendo101 (ended July 3, 2024) |
| Use the classic and classic link templates when discussing classic courses in Mario Kart Tour, YoYo (ended October 2, 2024) |
| Split major RPG appearances of recurring locations, EvieMaybe (ended December 16, 2024) |
| Split Mario & Luigi badges and remaining accessories, Camwoodstock (ended February 1, 2025) |
| Merge intro/outro sections, rename Gameplay section to "Overview" for Mario Party minigame articles, ToxBoxity64 (ended March 1, 2025) |
| Allow English Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia names to be mentioned on articles where they are not the title, Hewer (ended March 27, 2025) |
| Make a guideline for covering generic subjects that have a recurring and recognizable design in the Mario series, Koopa con Carne (ended May 4, 2025) |
| Split every song from the "List of (show) songs" articles, Kaptain Skurvy (ended May 31, 2025) |
| Create articles for Donkey Konga series music, Ahemtoday (ended June 9, 2025) |
| Ditch classic course prefixes in Mario Kart course article names (for real now), YoYo (ended June 21, 2025) |
| Decide on a standardized romanization system to be used for all Cantonese text, Dominoes (ended June 23, 2025) |
| Overhaul sponsor pages, Seandwalsh (ended June 26, 2025) |
Talk page proposals
| Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021) |
| Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022) |
| Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024) |
| Allow separate articles for Diddy Kong Pilot (2003)'s subjects, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended August 3, 2024) |
| Create articles for specified special buildings in Super Mario Run, Salmancer (ended November 15, 2024) |
| Give the Cluck-A-Pop Prizes articles, Camwoodstock (ended January 31, 2025) |
| Split the Animal Crossing series (now Crossovers with Animal Crossing), Kaptain Skurvy (ended February 12, 2025) |
| Split Super Mario Maker helmets from Buzzy Shell and Spiny Shell (red) (Draft page), PopitTart (ended March 12, 2025) |
| Split Super Luigi subjects into a dedicated list article (Draft page), EvieMaybe (ended April 3, 2025) |
| Deciding the fate of the last two episodes of Super Mario Maker 2 Challenges!, Rykitu (ended April 27, 2025) |
| Restore general coverage for Pyramid, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended May 9, 2025) |
| Split the Story Mode chapters from Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, Kaptain Skurvy (ended May 13, 2025) |
| Clean up Prohibited Command, PrincessPeachFan (ended May 13, 2025) |
| Expand Ring Shot to cover other Mario Tennis games as well as Superstars, PrincessPeachFan (ended May 28, 2025) |
| Split text changes in Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (Nintendo Switch) (Draft page), Technetium (ended May 29, 2025) |
| Split gold variants of Pests, Sorbetti (ended June 7, 2025) |
| Determine which subjects belong in Category:Aliens, Technetium (ended June 14, 2025) |
| Split snd_test from tech demo, Nelsonic (ended June 22, 2025) |
| Merge Torch (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga) with Lantern, Sorbetti (ended June 28, 2025) |
List of talk page proposals
Template:TPPDiscuss Template:TPPDiscuss Template:TPPDiscuss
Unimplemented proposals
Writing guidelines
None at the moment.
New features
None at the moment.
Removals
None at the moment.
Changes
None at the moment.
Miscellaneous
Compile Play Nintendo puzzle activities in a single page
I don't think the Play Nintendo jigsaw puzzles, such as this one, this one and this one, deserve their own pages as much as the other Play Nintendo activities do. The reason skill quizzes and personality quizzes need their own pages is to neatly list all the correct answers for each, in a similar fashion to how we handle the quizzes from the Paper Mario games. However, those jigsaw puzzles all have the exact same "gameplay" where you choose a difficulty of 8, 18 or 50 pieces and then use them to build the base picture; the only difference is the picture you have to build, but this isn't a strong enough reason to keep these puzzles on separate pages. This can be easily managed in a table that contains the preview and description used on the website, what the completed puzzle looks like, and a link to the actual puzzle.
I therefore propose that we make a list of Play Nintendo puzzles where we compile every single one of them, with the following layout for the table:
| Preview | Completed puzzle | Play Nintendo description | Web page name | Link |
|---|---|---|---|---|
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[pic] | A (puzzle) piece of art
Put together the puzzle pieces to get a closer look at the Mushroom Kingdom. You can choose between Easy (8 pieces), Medium (18 pieces), or Hard (50 pieces!). Good luck! |
Nintendo Online Jigsaw Puzzle Game | [1] |
A few notes:
- The website description takes priority over the tab title of the puzzle because the words used in it also serve as search keys on Play Nintendo, whereas the tab title seems more like a simple placeholder typed out by the publisher (and cannot be used to search the puzzle). We'll offer a direct link anyways, so the reader won't have to personally go type it out in the search bar, but this decision is taken to more or less highlight the importance of the description on the website.
- That one Mario jigsaw puzzle on the Nintendo Kids Club website (Play Nintendo's European counterpart) won't be affected by the proposal, as it is considered in relation to other games on the website (Luigi's Word Jumble, Captain Toad's Dungeon Dash! etc.)
If the proposal passes, any puzzles that already have their own pages will be merged in a List of Play Nintendo puzzles. I was planning on organizing the other activities similarly, since the current list on the Play Nintendo page doesn't have much of a rhyme or reason. If the proposal is unsuccessful, then the jigsaw puzzles will continue to have their own pages like the rest of the Play Nintendo activities.
Proposer: Bye Guy (talk)
Deadline: January 16, 2020, 05:27 GMT
Support
- Bye Guy (talk) per proposal
- Obsessive Mario Fan (talk) - Since all the puzzles are the same but with different pictures and text, this works best. Also, each puzzle has a unique message when completed, so that should be included too.
- Power Flotzo (talk) Per Obsessive Mario Fan.
- TheDarkStar (talk) - Per all.
- Waluigi Time (talk) Per all.
Oppose
Comments
No death threats
A new rule I would suggest to add is no death threats. This means I think there should be a no death threat rule. We don’t want users threatening to kill someone because death threats, especially on the internet, are a no-no. I think any user who violates this should get a last warning and after that, a block.
Proposer: NintendogsFan (talk)
Deadline: January 17, 2020 17:22 EST
Support
- NintendogsFan (talk) Per my proposal
